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Kelso 7:05
6. Minella Youngy    3/1J
7. Getaway Jewel 11/100

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Report longbridge September 12, 2023 6:26 PM BST
Fractional odds.  Why do the bookies persist with them?  There is no way I can see that they are easier to understand than decimal.
Report sparrow September 12, 2023 6:29 PM BST
6.05 KelsoFull Result
1stMinella Youngy  (6)3/1Jfav
2nd3LGetaway Jewel  (7)11/1
3rd5.5LRestandbethankful (GB) (4)11/2
4th6LFusain (FR) (1)5/1
Report sparrow September 12, 2023 6:30 PM BST
I had been hoping that onlooker was giving us the winner of the 7.05 race Laugh
Report onlooker September 12, 2023 6:33 PM BST
They corrected it - when the published the Full Result.
Report onlooker September 12, 2023 6:37 PM BST
Central European Time - sparrow.

Just flew over to Paris - For a Jambon Butty for my Tea.
Report sparrow September 12, 2023 6:41 PM BST
I believe you, onlooker Plain
Report SlippyBlue September 12, 2023 6:52 PM BST
Skybet use 17/8.

I kid ye not.
Report jimnast September 12, 2023 7:03 PM BST
Hello sparrow

Just reading about a game in 1976 East Ham against West Ham playing for East Ham David Webb and the greatest of them all George best playing for West Ham Bobby Moore ,Malcom Allison,Jimmy greaves,terry venables and harry rednapp,

Entrance 45 pence
Report ronnie rails September 12, 2023 7:18 PM BST
sparrow/jimnast

went to Upton park on a Wednesday night with Darlo in 1975; it was a cup match; Darlo had 2 special trains don't know if you remember them?

All the Darlo fans met up at whitechapel what a place.

some players from the west ham squad, Mervin Day, Billy Bonds, Frank Lampard and Clive Best, Darlo got beat 3 nil:(
Report sparrow September 12, 2023 7:26 PM BST
Can't recall that game ronnie but that would be Clyde Best and Whitechapel I knew very well but not a place to be at night.


Jimnast, Would that have been some sort of Charity match?
Report jimnast September 12, 2023 7:27 PM BST
Hello Ronnie who beat Darlington in the 1999/2000 fa cup ?

Hope your well
Report swiftynifty September 12, 2023 7:28 PM BST
sparrow , it was Frank Lampard's testimonial.
Report ronnie rails September 12, 2023 7:34 PM BST
Jimnast.
Another team who played in claret and blue.
Getting  there thank you looking forward  to a week in the lakes next  week.
Report sparrow September 12, 2023 7:34 PM BST
I can still see old Frank dancing round that corner flag at Elland Road after scoring against Everton in the 1980 FA Cup so surely not his testimonial 4 years earlier, swifty!
Report jimnast September 12, 2023 7:38 PM BST
Who else ronnie
Report swiftynifty September 12, 2023 7:39 PM BST
sparrow, it was, i guess  testimonials worked a bit differently in those days, obv now it's 10 years etc.
Report sparrow September 12, 2023 7:41 PM BST
I wouldn't have known that but it's ridiculous with so many years left to play and with Lampard's finest hour amongst them.
Report swiftynifty September 12, 2023 7:42 PM BST
maybe he played for both sides he was born in East Ham!
Report ronnie rails September 12, 2023 7:43 PM BST
Jimnast.
Did Darlo go further than your team.
Report jimnast September 12, 2023 7:53 PM BST
Of course they did Ronnie which is why you got beat twice
Report sparrow September 12, 2023 7:56 PM BST
Born in East Ham so played on the home ground at Upton Park presumably.Grin
Report devilsadvocate September 12, 2023 8:04 PM BST

Sep 12, 2023 -- 7:34PM, ronnie rails wrote:


Jimnast.Another team who played in claret and blue.Getting

Report jimnast September 12, 2023 8:08 PM BST
Sparrow who were West Ham playing when pop robson scored that great goal I don’t remember the opposition.
Report Ramruma September 12, 2023 8:14 PM BST
longbridge -- "Fractional odds.  Why do the bookies persist with them?  There is no way I can see that they are easier to understand than decimal."

Fractional odds are far easier to understand than decimals, provided you realise they are completely misnamed; they are not fractions at all, they are ratios.
Report sparrow September 12, 2023 8:19 PM BST
He scored so many jimnast but maybe against Derby in the 1970s.
Report longbridge September 12, 2023 8:19 PM BST
@ramruma

I'm not bad at mental arithmetic, but surely it is easier to know that if I back a horse for £10 at 1.73 I get £17.30 back than working out £10 times (1 + 8/11) in your head?

Let alone working out if 11/8 is better than 7/5 etc.
Report sparrow September 12, 2023 8:22 PM BST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKRB9VJp-24
Report jimnast September 12, 2023 8:23 PM BST
The one that won goal of the season it was always on the start of match of the day
Report jimnast September 12, 2023 8:25 PM BST
Gillingham as well as villa beat Darlington in that seasons fa cup ronnie.
Report Ramruma September 12, 2023 8:28 PM BST
longbridge -- yes, but otoh it is easier to see that if you stake £4 at 11/4 you stand to win £11 than multiply £4 by 2.75. It must be admitted the traditional odds used to make more sense with old money.
Report onlooker September 12, 2023 8:42 PM BST
Conversely - Looking it at the other angle of Punting - which is primarilaly far more important than just 'how much do you stand to win' ...

Seasoned Punters KNOW instantly the ASSET Value of 11/8 - set against the adjoining odds of 5/4 and 6/4  - Whereas ...

I just had to do a somewhat long-winded Mathematical calculation of  ...

- multiply 8 by 5 = 40 (for 11/8) - and 8 times 5 (for 7/5) ... THEN - 5 times 11 (for 11/8) - and 8 times 7 (for 7/5) - in order to determine whether ...

11/8 (= 55/40) is better or worse than 7/5 (= 56/40)  Cry


I'll stick with 11/10 - 13/8 - 9/4  and 100/30 - Thank you.
Report longbridge September 12, 2023 9:31 PM BST
ramruma "It must be admitted the traditional odds used to make more sense with old money." - like thinking of 21/20 as betting a pound to win a guinea?
Report sparrow September 13, 2023 7:00 AM BST
We grew up with the fractions and somehow managed but no bookmaker these days will want to lay 100/8 rather than 12/1.
Report jimnast September 13, 2023 7:55 AM BST
Plenty on course will sparrow
Report sparrow September 13, 2023 7:59 AM BST
I expect they will, jimnast.
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