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By:
formoftheace
When: 11 Sep 23 11:52
Big lump of a horse round Leopardstown ffs
By:
acey deucy
When: 11 Sep 23 11:55
Scumbag operation with more money than sense imho.
By:
hulk23
When: 11 Sep 23 11:55
Mr Kiavash Joorabchian holds 13 appointments at 13 active companies, has resigned from 11 companies and held 4 appointments at 4 dissolved companies. Their longest current appointment spans 19 years, 11 months and 12 days at AMO RACING LIMITED

The combined cash at bank value for all businesses where KIAVASH holds a current appointment equals £5m, a combined total current assets value of £56m with a total current liabilities of £45m and a total current net worth of £11m. Roles associated with Mr Kiavash Joorabchian within the recorded businesses include: Director, Company Secretary
By:
impossible123
When: 11 Sep 23 12:04
^^Compare that to Coolmore a wee in an ocean!
By:
Trident
When: 11 Sep 23 12:06

Sep 11, 2023 -- 11:55AM, acey deucy wrote:


Scumbag operation with more money than sense imho.


Correct!

By:
formoftheace
When: 11 Sep 23 12:06
Amo = Wildenstien dirty washing in public….imo…
By:
Trident
When: 11 Sep 23 12:10
This Country, under this Government, simply whitewash the ill-gotten gains of the international criminal super rich.
By:
differentdrum
When: 11 Sep 23 12:13
On Walsh about Doyle it was the mildest of criticism, more perceived than anything. He only really commented about where she was on the track.

I think Osborne looks a lot more tidy than Doyle, in fact most jockeys do. She seems to have a problem keeping horses straight and getting them settled, but as you say the cheerleaders can't see any wrong.
By:
impossible123
When: 11 Sep 23 12:29
I was impressed with Osborne having watched her in the Racing thingy. She's also hungry for winners.
By:
FatPunt
When: 11 Sep 23 12:30
I've just listened to an interview with Kia Joorabchian on Nick Luck's podcast. He said the pair have had 'problems' all year but was reluctant to say what they were. Has anybody heard anything? It's worth listening to.
By:
Daryl Revok
When: 11 Sep 23 12:42
It will be interesting to see where they go next both for jockeys and trainers and what they buy in the Autumn Sales

He won't be going to the autumn sales, or the Tattersalls one at least. He's managed to fall out with them as well. Laugh

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/22435644/kia-joorabchian-amo-racing-money-dispute-tattersalls/
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 11 Sep 23 12:50
Will Stott be able to walk back into his old job at Ryan's?

I wondered if Neil Callan might become the main go-to man for Ryan, but that hasn't really happened, with the bulk of the rides being shared between Tom Eaves and Shane Gray.
By:
impossible123
When: 11 Sep 23 12:53
Tudhope is good. But, anything with the owner of King Of Steel has been short-term so far.
By:
truehoncho
When: 11 Sep 23 12:54
If he thinks it's bad he should ask small breeders how they are treated by the sales companies. Set that aside, he is doomed to fail. He wants to become a 'big' player but he is just far too poor. You can't get sustained success by buying a horse for £1m+, you need to buy 10 of them.......every year.
By:
Joe Lampton
When: 11 Sep 23 13:10
Just had a look at AMO Racings filings with Companies House, Here are the rough figures from March 2016 onwards showing the net assets/liabilities (i.e net value of businesses as going concern):

16 -£216K
17 -£383K
18 -£216K
19 -£437K
20 +£455K
21 +21K
22 - £5.6M

So if the company was wound up tomorrow there'd be £5.6M light in terms of paying their creditors. They really started investing from 2019 onwards with assets (presumed to be horses) going from £2.7M to £11.9M. They started to take on some serious debt to fund this buying spree. Accounts don't say who it's owed to (described as "other payables") and it may be to the director but even if it is this isn't sustainable long term. To me it's very strange anyway and shows a degree of arrogance. How many owners structure their activities in this way aside from the commercial breeding operations. If I was a creditor I'd be concerned.
By:
Vubiant
When: 11 Sep 23 13:27
Just looked up the form record. It tells me that Augeste Rodin has met King of Steel 3 times and won each time
...at 3 different distances , on 3 different types of going , from the front and from behind.
I can't help getting the impression that AR might actually be the better horse. Unclear what a jockey is expected to do to change that.
By:
impossible123
When: 11 Sep 23 13:53
I'd have agreed if the Irish Champion Stakes was 12f. Then perhaps King Of Steel would be outstayed again. But, over 10f (he led the winner at Epsom) tracking the winner several lengths further back he'd allowed the AOB contingent (and winner) a head start; the winner needed every yard at Epsom to beat him and win.

I'm not advocating King Of Steel would have won. But, the position Stott took had made the task many times more difficult; he only lost by a length after being many lengths behind prior.
By:
truehoncho
When: 11 Sep 23 13:57
If a jockey gives them that kind of lead and wins, he's a genius. Loses by a length and he's on the dole.
By:
1st time poster
When: 11 Sep 23 14:22
how did AR beat KOS in KING GEORGE ?
By:
Fashion Fever
When: 11 Sep 23 14:54
dumped via txt isnt very nice
By:
differentdrum
When: 11 Sep 23 15:22
Claims he doesn't know why he has been sacked. The bigger surprise should be how he got the retainer in the first place. Of course nobody in the media is going to admit that he just wasn't much cop. Instead all we will get is how he will take this on the chin and bounce back.
By:
differentdrum
When: 11 Sep 23 15:23
I suppose there is hope for everyone wehen the equally useless Egan is riding Group 1 winners.
By:
in hell
When: 11 Sep 23 16:39
Agree with the rank average rider getting the job in the first place
By:
impossible123
When: 11 Sep 23 16:47
Egan = Mishriff

Has any British jockey got a bigger payday at Meydan than him?
By:
UnluckyForSome
When: 11 Sep 23 16:58
Looking forward to megans bias against amo runners on saturdays Love
By:
truehoncho
When: 11 Sep 23 17:02
Well at least he's got time for another holiday

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/22865198/megan-nicholls-topless-holiday-kevin-stott/
By:
truehoncho
When: 11 Sep 23 17:06
https://www.the-sun.com/sport/8546278/megan-nicholls-deny-rumour-kevin-stott/

No more denials. Get that bikini back on.
By:
clacton
When: 11 Sep 23 17:24
Do all the know-alls on here know what riding instructions the trainer gave Stott?   Of course they dont.
By:
Whippin Piccadilly
When: 11 Sep 23 17:36
Megan going through Kev's phone looking for Loughnane & McMonagle numbers Devil
By:
tomo1984
When: 11 Sep 23 17:46
To be fair, he should be bloody grateful that he got the job at all.

A nice hefty retainer and I imagine a decent payoff considering the sacking.

Can't really complain considering the level of his ability as a jockey, which is fine, but not much more than that.
By:
clacton
When: 11 Sep 23 17:50
Another know-all
By:
WHOKNOWSTHEBOWLER
When: 11 Sep 23 18:41
No crystal ball,  but the "off the racetrack" issues allegedly evolve around Little "Miss Pushy" constantly referring to Amo Racing as "we". As though it was her being involved in decisions around where the horses run or where they should go. When in reality she has no influence whatsoever, other than being the girlfriend of Amo's employee.
By:
1st time poster
When: 11 Sep 23 18:54
surely he didnt sign a contract for one season only with this mob,so he,ll get his contract paid up and still get plenty of rides elsewhere, besides KOS,whats he missing out on some early season 2 yr olds next season and speedy 3yr olds who,ll be hard to place
By:
leif
When: 11 Sep 23 19:08
Derby form garbage yet AMO believe they have Pegasus on their hands.
Ace Impact not even bothered to show up to the gig so as not to embarrass the combatants.
By:
impossible123
When: 11 Sep 23 19:39
I think Ace Impact will at Newmarket Champion Stakes if he bombs in The ARC. Otherwise, stallion duties awaiting.
By:
CagliariG
When: 11 Sep 23 19:46
Has HQ been relocated to Berkshire impossible?
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 11 Sep 23 19:54
The next Amo jock

Paddy Power: 2 Rossa Ryan, 3 David Egan, 5 Billy Loughnane, 8 Ben Curtis, Benoit de la Sayette, Colin Keane, Ronan Whelan, 10 Sean Levey, Oisin Murphy, 16 Charlie Bishop, Silvestre de Sousa, Seamie Heffernan, Clifford Lee, Oisin Orr, Kieran Shoemark, Danny Tudhope, 20 Saffie Osborne, 50 Gary Halpin

I think given the Brazilian connection, SDS at 16s makes most appeal.
By:
CagliariG
When: 11 Sep 23 20:05
Are any of them daft enough or desperate enough George?

A poisoned chalice and always will be, no surprise if they (Amo) go tits up sooner rather than later imvho.
By:
formoftheace
When: 11 Sep 23 20:13
1.01 best available
By:
truehoncho
When: 11 Sep 23 20:16
Are you kidding Cagliari, they would all sell their grannies for the job.
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