York Wed 4 / 5/ 6 runners 3 big races

Quite right,and another bundle for extras….

As with the Eclipse another top class race over 10Fs attracting
4 rnrs.£40K gone begging for 5th & 6th.

13.50 is a 20 runner 5f sprint and the 17.20 is a 20 runner 6f nursery . Good luck finding the winner in them

Wouldn't cross the road to watch those York handicaps never mind £75!

Best racecourse in the UK, after 2005 they should have left Royal Ascot there instead of moving it back down south.

Steady on tiger absolutely nothing in horse racing compares with royal ascot although York did a great job in 2005 very enjoyable.

Only one of the six in the Acomb trained in the North.

In fact only one in the 3 races together.

Cant agree jimnast, I've done both, the atmoshpere at York was fantastic and found the whole experience to be way in front of what Ascot provides. Each to their own of course.

Don’t pay 75 just pay 42 in tatts you get to see everything including pre parade and parade ring

RA at york was WO
or as its known washed out on 2 vof the days miserable weather,skys as black as coal ,one race run in a rain storm,everyone soaked through,but keep wearing the rose tinted glasses,lifes **** without them

Yes each to there own tiger I loved 2005 but only as a one off ,York this week has its own magical occasion which weather permitting will be fantastic.

"Don’t pay 75 just pay 42 in tatts you get to see everything including pre parade and parade ring".     My wealthy friends go county stand but yes maybe need new friends or none at all

You already said that in your opening post, howard.

Well worth the entrance fee an Irish 1000 ,st James palace,eclipse,and Sussex stakes winner against a brilliant prince of wales winner a Dante winner and the winner of a Nassau and Falmouth.

For those who did like that sort of race I’m sure bath will provide betting opportunities

Less than £25 per days racing in the County Stand for badgeholders.

Not exactly sparrow £70+ for a good betting card don't rule out. The two top races are very dull and the Acomb isn't much better. Then as you no doubt would say the handicaps are bookies benefits.

Aug 21, 2023 -- 2:18PM, Tiger Tiger wrote:

Less than £25 per days racing in the County Stand for badgeholders.

£230 for all four days in the  County Stand, £110 in Tatts .Where does the £25 come from, please?

Annual members.

Back to the original point it is very disappointing for the 3 races considering the money York have put up,will the media even acknowledge while they'll all no doubt be wetting their knickers that the Gosden horse has made the cut for the Ebor.

Ribero1 -do you mean that annual members have to pay £25 a day in addition to the cost of annual membership or that they can bring a guest/guest for £25? If the former that seems a bit harsh though I suppose Ascot members don't get the Royal meeting included.

No, its £455 for members, 18 days racing works out at less than £25 per day.

£445.

Say you own the runner that finishes 4th (last) in the Juddmont. That's 53k for jogging around the

course, much more if there's a non runner or you somehow finish 3rd. With G1 entry fees 5 to 6k

you could then enter your 80 + rated horse in just about every G1 going knowing that there will be a

couple of similar small fields.

As regards York. It's a great track and well run but there's no way I'm making the journey up from

Dorset and paying crazy prices to watch such a card. It's too bad. Too much racing especially too

many Group races. Trainers can swerve running against the best.

i no york and yorkshire public consider the EBOR the big race,meeting planned around it but having the best £ race for best horses 4 races in to a 4 day meeting .doesnt seem the best race planning

It is an absolute disgrace that the Juddmonte will have only 4 runners. Yet again, trainers show themselves lacking initiative in chasing excellent prize money. I personally am sick of seeing valuable races contested by a handful of horses. The Juddmonte 4th will collect over 50k for hacking round - what a joke!

Are those that own these top horses actually bothered about the prize money?

12 F races, long distance races, queens vase etc were all downgradede frowned upon so we could be fed this diet of small field 10 furlong group ones of which you can take your choice of half a dozen,

did york scrap the dress code as other courses have done?

Dress code still applies in the County Stand pointa, but you will get in anywhewre else around the course in jeans etc

no not jeans just dress shirt and trousers.got tickets for premier racing lounge

"Are those that own these top horses actually bothered about the prize money"?   You didn't have to be a top horse to run. TC could have run Gallant Lion

Dont forget your tie pointa.

its the jacket i dont want to carry around all day

Tie it round your waist

need longer arms

howard 21 Aug 23 16:03 
"Are those that own these top horses actually bothered about the prize money"?   You didn't have to be a top horse to run.

TC could have run Gallant LionTC could have run Gallant Lion.. 





Is the owner wealthy enough to not care about prize money is the point?

These are the size of fields we can expect in the premierisation window!

Are those that own these top horses actually bothered about the prize money?

Is the owner wealthy enough to not care about prize money is the point?

  Sparrow the wealthy owners don't want to get beat if they have stallion prospects. So they are bothered about money. But it's weighing one earner up against another. With my slightly tongue in cheek TC comment it doesn't matter with geldings.

looks easier than normal but it is York but I will only be betting in the 3 races at this time

Say you own the runner that finishes 4th (last) in the Juddmont. That's 53k for jogging around the

course, much more if there's a non runner or you somehow finish 3rd. With G1 entry fees 5 to 6k

you could then enter your 80 + rated horse in just about every G1 going knowing that there will be a

couple of similar small fields.

No that's a mistake. You would have to supplement your horse to the race now and it would cost tens of thousands. That's the problem with the pattern system it isn't funded properly.

I’m going for the first three days in the Clocktower enclosure (opposite the main stand). I’ve got my concessionary tickets for £25 for the three days. This includes a £10 off deal from Rewards For Racing -the three day ticket should be £35.

I’m not complaining. We can take our food and drinks in as well. £8.33 a day entrance and no stupid beer prices to pay. Great value.

the king george had a great line up but not one of those horses has tuned up for the juddemont. you would have thought a few of them would especially westover as a 10f g1 win would enhance his stud value. 
get used to this type of race getting small fields. keeping top class colts in training has been a disaster recently. hurricane lane and adayar have been a disaster at 4 and 5. and the 2022 french derby winner vadeni was just retired after a few terrible runs this season. ace impact (2023 derby winner) has skipped this. the arc will as usual get a massive top class field. only one horse can win it. they all seem to go for that and you get substandard fields for the breeders cup turf and english champion stakes.

There are plenty of horses in Europe that could and would run in this race but the prohibitive cost prevents them doing so. The BHA is messing about with 'premiership' race days instead of concentrating on races that people really want.

Fantastic.  Much better than a card of 20 horse handicaps.

Probably been to York about 35 times and still the best in the country by far imo,apart from Hamilton of course….

silvercoat your sarnies might get wet on fri

Fantastic.  Much better than a card of 20 horse handicaps. - Which is exactly what the premiership racing is aiming to provide you.