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the football match sequence.....classic!
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A very good film worth watching.
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German Bight
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The football match was superb, Brian Glover as Mr.Sugden.
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Great film....
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madhutter, agree its priceless, i just laugh thinking about it
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Is Kes a great film? It is a film with a couple of classic scenes but imo it was a mistake not to cast proper actors.
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Ivy Tilsley, think she played the mum in it.
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I think Ken Loach had Poor Cow released before
Kes. Another working class drama. Poor Cow introduced John Bindon to acting, he would go on to meet princess Margaret, and spawn quite a few films about bank robberies and photos, allegedly. |
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The kestrel was owned and trained by Robert Nairac. Later murdered by the ****s.
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One of my favourites.
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Excellent film and so well received at the time. Has certainly stood the test of time.
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Dennis Law's in the wash
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I agree Sparrow, I enjoyed watching it again last night and I can remember as a youngster, around 1974, that the film made quite an impression on me way back then.
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1969 slippy..
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when that headmaster was ranting off just before he was going to cane those smoker lads and they are trying not to laugh !brings back memories ,had the cane a few times at school ! that poor younger kid who went to give the headmaster a message got caught with the tabs/f ags!
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I knew Brian Glover, and he really disliked Ken Loach for having a live kestrel knecked (killed) to create realism in the film when Billy took the dead kestrel out of the bin.
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Enjoyed the sequel as well...The Eagle has Landed...
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I remember watching it at primary school. I think we’d read the book first then saw the film. Not sure what I thought of it back then but have watched it as an adult and wasn’t very impressed!
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the youngen at the time took a great part..fine actor.
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https://pauseliveaction.files.wordpress.com/2015/09/dai-bradley-holby1.jpg
billy casper 54yr later ^ |
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As a nieve youngster I thought it was going to be a film about Falconry, was so disappointed, lol, but after watching it again many years later, it's a fine documentary of the times.
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named my budgie kes
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I've been near Barnsley this morning, went along Jebb Lane, another blast from the past. Beautiful.
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To elicit a realistic emotional response for the film’s bleak climax, in which Billy’s self-loathing brother Jud (Freddie Fletcher) kills Kes, Loach approached Fletcher and Bradley in the lunch queue and told Fletcher to go off with Richard Hines and slaughter Hardy for the required corpse. Bradley says he wasn’t convinced – “I just couldn’t believe these nice people could be so cruel” – and after shooting the scene was reunited with Hardy (the one on camera had died from natural causes). “I said to them: ‘I knew you wouldn’t kill him! I knew you wouldn’t!’”
That's to cutter,tbf it's from the gurnyad. |
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Breadbutterskull: Brian Glover told me Ken Loach had the kestrel killed fresh before they put it into the bin for Billy to pull out of.
Now, was you there? No. Brian was, and Ken Loach had the kestrel killed. Fact! Brian said so. |
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https://whatculture.com/film/10-iconic-movie-scenes-made-possible-by-enforced-method-acting?page=2
Ken Loach Told David Bradley That Kes Had Been Killed For Real In The Final Scene - Kes (1969) kes Ken Loach has made some of the most beloved British movies of all time, one of which is Kes, a drama which centres around a young boy (as played by David Bradley) who befriends a kestrel. It's a sad and happy movie all at once, and one renowned for its gritty realism, realistic performances and great cinematography. If you've seen the movie (and stop reading now if you haven't), you'll know that it ends with the unfortunate death of the movie's eponymous kestrel, because that's how filmmakers like to punish us for paying to watch their movies. It's the kind of ending that might make even the toughest of Northern factory workers cry. When filming the movie's final scenes, though, David Bradley, who was fourteen at the time, was approached by Ken Loach, who told him that they'd have to really kill one of the three "Kes" kestrels that Bradley had bonded with over the course of the production. Bradley, just as anybody in his position would be, was devastated, and channelled all his upset and anguish into the subsequent scene - the one where he finds out that Kes has been killed. Which meant he had played right into Loach's hands, of course, because they didn't kill any of the birds, but had instead used a kestrel that had died of natural causes. Normally we wouldn't advise that anybody tell such a horrific, manipulative lie to a child, but in the case of Kes, it worked - emotional scars aside, the pay-off was well worth it. |
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Sparrow, Brian said they had the kestrel killed. I hope your account is true, and Brian, bless his Yorkshire soul, is wrong.
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https://bigdog.media/2011/11/kes-2/#:~:text=He%20discovered%20that%20no%20birds,lack%20of%20it%2C%20ever%20made.
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Cutter27 15 Aug 23 16:29
Breadbutterskull: Brian Glover told me Ken Loach had the kestrel killed fresh before they put it into the bin for Billy to pull out of. pmsl..cutter WAC ![]() |
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Why did Brian tell me he murdered the kestrel? I do not understand that? He had no reason to lie, and Brian was deeply headbeat when he told me the account?
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i know billy casper,he was friends with my mate..the bird died of natural causes.
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One of my mate’s uncle was one of the kids Glover takes the p1ss out of on the football pitch
The manuscript is in the Sheffield Art’s tower along with other personal items of Barry Hines |
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Kestrels used to be such a common sight, quite rare now
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Breadbutterhead, my apologies, but you need to return to a Barnsley school to get your spelling and grammar corrected.
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OK cutter, will do, can they cure dyslexia in Yorkshire,they tried to cure it in Scotland, still got the scars.
Sir epicure, never knew Robert Niarac was a Falconer, some boy, RIP, was into his fishing as well I see, proper soldier,RIP. |
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Council estate flesh? Confusing. I need some real talent.
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And in English?
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Absolute brilliant film, absolutley mirrored the school i attended in the early 70's also the mining village i lived in and still do.Christ,we had fck all expected fck all and wer happier for it.
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