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By:
screaming from beneaththewaves
When: 10 Aug 23 20:39
I wouldn't push this line too hard. Because the obvious response would be to ban on-course betting - for your own protection of course.
By:
tantpis
When: 10 Aug 23 20:42
Sorry to see you go Anorak,do hope there is a way back
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 10 Aug 23 20:47
Can't sue, you could have disclosed your finances
but chose not to. Or disclosed finances and couldnt
make a deposit.

You might be part of a class action for invasion
of privacy.

I still can't see why my bank can't regulate
my gambling, rather than a bookmaker, if I deposit
by card.
By:
Cider
When: 10 Aug 23 20:51
Why can't you regulate your own spending?
By:
screaming from beneaththewaves
When: 10 Aug 23 20:53
I love the list of members of the board of the Gambling Commission:

https://www.racingpost.com/news/gambling-review/betfair-founder-andrew-black-spanish-inquisition-gambling-commission-needs-overhaul-a9Yyr8k2oW1P/

My favourites:

Andrew Rhodes Chief executive

Joined from Swansea University and previously held a number of senior civil service roles, including as lead investigator in the 2013 horse meat scandal


and

Catharine Seddon Commissioner and senior independent director

Former film-maker who has since filled a range of public non-executive roles, including as deputy chair of the Human Fertilisation and Embryology Authority


Everything that gambling is not about: university, a career in the civil service, babies and women.
By:
brandyontherocks
When: 10 Aug 23 20:54
Spot on Tommo.

The sad loss of a long term, interesting poster turns into yet another pathetic, I am better than you argument.
By:
Trusty
When: 10 Aug 23 20:56
1) I won't be betting if I cannot bet on here. Mentally I would not be able to handle backing an 8/1 winner that was 12/1 on here.

2) Surely there is a lost opportunity for me?

3) Surely my human rights have been infringed?

4) Can you open an account on here as a company?

5) any other ideas?
By:
hulk23
When: 10 Aug 23 21:01
the below is all that is required.  then they have done their bit, backside covered. 

no checks BS, its up to you. 

Dear valued customer

We'd like to thank you for your continued custom and hope that your experience using our services so far has been an enjoyable one. Here at Betfair we promote gambling as an enjoyable leisure activity and are fully committed to Responsible Gambling. It's important to us that our customers gamble responsibly and stay in control.

To help you keep your gambling safe and under control, we provide a range of tools and information to help manage your gambling.

Deposit Limits – We encourage you to set a deposit limit in order to effectively control the amount of money that you can deposit into your account. Limits can be set for a daily, weekly or monthly period and cannot be overridden. Once a limit has been set, you’ll only be able to increase that limit seven days after your first request. Deposit Limit settings can be accessed in the “My Profile” section of your account or you can contact customer support who will assist you in applying your chosen settings.

Time Out – If you require a short break from gambling, you may do so by setting up a Time Out for a period of 24 hours, one week, one month or two months. Once you set up your Time Out, you will not be able to login, deposit, withdraw or place bets during your chosen period. Once you have begun your Time Out period, it is not possible to reactivate your full account access until your chosen period has ended. Time Out settings can be accessed in the “My Profile” section of your account or you can contact customer support who will assist you in applying your chosen settings.

Reality Checks – To help manage your playing time, you can set up a Reality Check alert on your account. Once set a popup alert reminder will be displayed to indicate that you have been logged into your account for the specified period of time, 10 minutes, 20 minutes, 30 minutes, one hour, two hours, four hours, six hours or eight hours. The alerts that you set will be applied to your account straight away, but if you wish to receive the alerts less often, you will need to wait 24 hours for the settings to be adjusted. Reality Check settings can be accessed in the “My Profile” section of your account or you can contact customer support who will assist you in applying your chosen settings.

GAMSTOP - GAMSTOP lets you put controls in place to restrict your online gambling activities. You will be prevented from using gambling websites and apps run by companies licensed in Great Britain, for a period of your choosing. To find out more and to sign up with GAMSTOP please visit www.gamstop.co.uk

GamCare - GamCare operate the National Gambling Helpline and offer confidential information, advice and support for anyone harmed by gambling in Great Britain. The Helpline is open 24 hours every day on Freephone 0808 8020 133 or via Live Chat. Advisers will listen to you, they won’t judge and your conversation is confidential. Advisers can also provide information about or refer into other important support services, such as debt and financial advice services. For a full range of support and treatment options, visit www.gamcare.org.uk

Safer Gambling Section – We have a Safer Gambling section of the website that provides advice on how to gamble safely and what to do if you think your gambling is becoming a problem or is out of control. The UKGC also provide excellent advice which can be accessed using the following link: http://www.gamblingcommission.gov.uk/for-the-public/Safer-gambling/Getting-help-to-control-your-gambling.aspx
By:
screaming from beneaththewaves
When: 10 Aug 23 21:29
I'd encourage everybody to set a loss limit of £1 for everything except the exchange.

1) It confirms that you know what you're doing, and may well be enough to pre-empt an affordability check at this stage, before the GC rules kick in
2) It stops hackers playing silly buggers with your account.

Loss Limit: Our spending safety net - Active
You can change your limits or apply limits on other products at any time.
Current Limit:
£1 per day on Virtual Sports
£1 remaining
Active from 09:58 on 01/09/2018
Current Limit:
£1 per day on Poker
£1 remaining
Active from 09:56 on 01/09/2018
Current Limit:
£1 per day on Casino, Bingo
£1 remaining
Active from 09:56 on 01/09/2018
Current Limit:
£1 per day on Exchange Games
£1 remaining
Active from 09:55 on 01/09/2018
_____________

It might also be worth setting a deposit limit, for much the same reason.
Deposit Limit: A helping hand to do the counting - Active

Current Limit:
£10,000 per month
£10,000 remaining

The last time I made a deposit was £4,000 in March 2022, after blowing that sum on a photo which got overturned by a stewards' enquiry - about as reckless a thing as you can possibly do. I had absolutely no feedback from Betfair over the deposit or the stupid bets which triggered it, and it's possible that the fact I had a deposit limit in place was the reason.
By:
screaming from beneaththewaves
When: 10 Aug 23 21:31
My Account > Safer Gambling Tools
By:
Movewiththetimes
When: 10 Aug 23 22:10
I said this three years but dave whatever his numbers is said I were talkimg ****, now it's reality. Have you still got your 3 grand in betfair Dave Laugh Alan great posts read all your online, good luck in your future.
By:
easykc1
When: 10 Aug 23 23:28
lose a few quid and the will want to check you can afford to do so ,,win a few quid and they will limit your bets ,,so either way your fuked
By:
dave1357
When: 11 Aug 23 08:10
Movewiththetimes • August 10, 2023 10:10 PM BST
I said this three years but dave whatever his numbers is said I were talkimg ****, now it's reality.


It isn't at all clear what you are referring to. The only thing I can remember you saying about these checks is that it was davos globalists to blame or some other conspiritard drivel. If you actually said something on this subject (or any subject) that was correct and I said you were wrong, bring it up and I'll happily apologise.
By:
dustybin
When: 11 Aug 23 08:10
They are not Dave, they are saying that he has to prove he CAN afford it.

Small but relevant difference


Yes, by assessing salary not capital. Which is further evidence the state don’t want people who arn’t working, gambling.
If you gamble for a living or a side hustle you are in the targets.

I’ve said many times, where’s the logic in saying a person isn’t financially vulnerable enough for state help having 16k in capital and no job….but having 16k in capital and no job they are considered financially vulnerable enough not to be allowed to bet?
By:
Andrew.in.Sweden
When: 11 Aug 23 08:40
Good morning Alan,

I was surprised to read your opening post, and would hardly consider you a 'problem' gambler by any means so i totally understand your reaction and sentiment. Are these requests for financial details being created by AI or human ? I've been asked for ID in a Corals and PP (once in each shop) and i'm happy to show my residency card, but not for them to make a copy, i don't have high street betting accounts anyway

Irrespective of the above, its regretful to read you may not be posting here in future. We all know the forum is not what it was and has been regressing more than the sprinter Nobel Style for some time, trolls, bet editors, fantasy merchants etc and several decent posters simply don't bother with it anymore. The majority on here would agree with me that your knowledgeable contribution to this forum over the years has been well received and respected. It will be missed.

From a personal perspective i was flattered and grateful you often posted on my thread. Many thanks for the kind words you posted a few days ago, i will respond later.

As a heads-up, even though you plan to close your BF account, you can still use the forum.

Good luck.
By:
dustybin
When: 11 Aug 23 08:40
A person an a very average salary gets waved through to continue betting in 10ers keeping the bookies lubricated, while somebody who has accumulated more capital that that worker will in the whole of their working life gets restricted.

To add insult to injury the GC recommend any profit made by gambling over a week ago is disregarded.
Like the trap of Christianity’s forbidden tree, it is a trap set that will only serve to catch people in time.
By:
Trident
When: 11 Aug 23 09:04

Aug 10, 2023 -- 9:29PM, screaming from beneaththewaves wrote:


I'd encourage everybody to set a loss limit of £1 for everything except the exchange. 1) It confirms that you know what you're doing, and may well be enough to pre-empt an affordability check at this stage, before the GC rules kick in2) It stops hackers playing silly buggers with your account.Loss Limit: Our spending safety net - ActiveYou can change your limits or apply limits on other products at any time.Current Limit:£1 per day on Virtual Sports£1 remainingActive from 09:58 on 01/09/2018Current Limit:£1 per day on Poker£1 remainingActive from 09:56 on 01/09/2018Current Limit:£1 per day on Casino, Bingo£1 remainingActive from 09:56 on 01/09/2018Current Limit:£1 per day on Exchange Games£1 remainingActive from 09:55 on 01/09/2018_____________It might also be worth setting a deposit limit, for much the same reason. Deposit Limit: A helping hand to do the counting - ActiveCurrent Limit:£10,000 per month£10,000 remainingThe last time I made a deposit was £4,000 in March 2022, after blowing that sum on a photo which got overturned by a stewards' enquiry - about as reckless a thing as you can possibly do. I had absolutely no feedback from Betfair over the deposit or the stupid bets which triggered it, and it's possible that the fact I had a deposit limit in place was the reason.


I'd encourage everybody to set a loss limit of £1 for everything except the exchange. I did this 15 years ago. Plus stops you going to the casino rubbish.

Really everyone should do this if they love betting on horses like myself.

By:
Trident
When: 11 Aug 23 09:07
Current Limit:
£1 per year on Casino, Bingo
£1.4 remaining
Active from 01:00 on 03/08/2014
By:
Tiger Tiger
When: 11 Aug 23 09:10
It would be sad if the forum lost one of its most respected posters,imo.
By:
Trident
When: 11 Aug 23 09:11
Deposit limits and loss limits should not be underestimated. I've used them for Poker too over the years, and they are a VERY effective too IMO.
By:
Trident
When: 11 Aug 23 09:11
tool!
By:
Trident
When: 11 Aug 23 09:13
it's possible that the fact I had a deposit limit in place was the reason Bingo!
By:
Trident
When: 11 Aug 23 09:24
Big bookmakers are saying very little because it suits them. They are global corporations now, the UK is just a small part of that. What happens in the USA is of far more importance to them at present.

Some poignant posts on here, absolutely spot on.
By:
formoftheace
When: 11 Aug 23 09:40
He decided to call it a day at 76 ish no big deal

Stop making out you knew him personally it’s all keyboard
By:
Tiger Tiger
When: 11 Aug 23 09:41
Idiot.
By:
formoftheace
When: 11 Aug 23 09:42
You are the idiot
By:
Tiger Tiger
When: 11 Aug 23 09:44
I'm often the fool, but never and idiot, that accolade is left to idiots like you.
By:
formoftheace
When: 11 Aug 23 09:45
You don’t know me personally you two bit clown,classic example of a keyboard warrior/coward
By:
Tiger Tiger
When: 11 Aug 23 09:49
Coward???? Never.

As I was saying, it would be awful if this forum was to lose one of its most respected, if not THE most respected poster.
By:
formoftheace
When: 11 Aug 23 09:49
I watched when the Anorak was on the old racing channel,read a bit of his books and a bit on YouTube,comes across decent.

But it’s life I don’t drool…..
By:
formoftheace
When: 11 Aug 23 09:50
Tiger Tiger 11 Aug 23 09:49 
Coward???? Never.

As I was saying, it would be awful if this forum was to lose one of its most respected, if not THE most respected poster.

He was seldom on apart from the obvious thread…
By:
Tiger Tiger
When: 11 Aug 23 09:54
A bit of his books??? a bit on youtube???? doesn't your concentration span allow to you a bit longer than that?

If you cannot be more respectful to a poster such as the Anorak........
By:
formoftheace
When: 11 Aug 23 09:55
You obviously take offence at the coward word,what kind of response do you expect from a person when you belittle.

Esso (exon mobile) BP & Shell Uk don’t employ an idiot as you refer me….I served them for many years…
By:
Tiger Tiger
When: 11 Aug 23 09:56
Yes, I understand that even BP and Shell need toilet cleaners.
By:
formoftheace
When: 11 Aug 23 10:00
Tiger Tiger 11 Aug 23 09:54 
A bit of his books??? a bit on youtube???? doesn't your concentration span allow to you a bit longer than that?

If you cannot be more respectful to a poster such as the Anorak........

There are a number on here I ‘respect’ their opinions.

There is a person on here Happy-Hibby who gets plenty of stick.

I have met the guy in person and in company,he’s an absolute gentleman and well mannered,a true gent who doesn’t take fools gladly….very sincere imo
By:
formoftheace
When: 11 Aug 23 10:01
Tiger Tiger 11 Aug 23 09:56 
Yes, I understand that even BP and Shell need toilet cleaners.

Pee off you clown…
By:
cdh
When: 11 Aug 23 10:09
All the best! You opinions and informative posts will be missed on here.
By:
DIE LINKE
When: 11 Aug 23 10:16
Get a room ffs, nobody wants to read your schoolyard squabble.
By:
FOYLESWAR
When: 11 Aug 23 10:21
first they came for the  compulsive gamblers ,we did nothing !
next they came for the big hitters ,we did nothing .
next they came for the frequent withdrawers ,we did nothing !
next they came for the frequent depositers ,still we did nothing !
By:
Tiger Tiger
When: 11 Aug 23 10:21
As I was saying, it would be sad if the forum was to lose one of its most respected posters. Very sad. I for one hope that Anorak contnues to post on here desoite his grievance.
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