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By:
mitolo
When: 09 Aug 23 17:55
they will be a u.s. business soon enough
By:
liberator of the oppressed
When: 09 Aug 23 18:02
You would think some other jurisdictions somewhere will watching this mess be thinking loads geezers in the UK stopped how do we entice them over here to bet jobs a good un.
By:
freddiewilliams
When: 09 Aug 23 18:07
There are fobts in North Ireland. Have not seen any lately in South Ireland.
By:
Greenacres
When: 09 Aug 23 18:14
What will be the position for the social punter - like me - if PP do relocate to Ireland?
By:
dustybin
When: 09 Aug 23 18:14
There’s some restrictions, I can’t recall whether it was fobts, or slots online or something similar.

But they are regulated by a different body and make their own gambling laws.
They are more stringent than UK laws (at present)
By:
jimnast
When: 09 Aug 23 18:15
Best of luck Alan as many have already said you’ve been such help to the forum I’ve been here from the start but clearly that means nothing when the time come and they want my proof I’ll be gone.

Hopefully you will still post from time to time.


On another note someone earlier on the thread pointed out only Nigel farage seems to be standing up to all this nonsense I totally agree with that comment.
By:
dustybin
When: 09 Aug 23 18:16
I seem to recall a law change over here a few years ago that made it where the punter was not where the bookie was.
By:
mitolo
When: 09 Aug 23 18:19
south ireland indeed

pp would do well to rerelocate from dublin to ireland

before they go 2k miles left
By:
akajak
When: 09 Aug 23 18:20
Very sorry to read original posters message; a very frightening state of affairs; anything that is digital can be controlled hence the drive to end cash.
BTW is Anorak, the author Alan Potts ?
If so I thought your books were excellent.
By:
dave1357
When: 09 Aug 23 18:23
Greenacres • August 9, 2023 6:14 PM BST
What will be the position for the social punter - like me - if PP do relocate to Ireland?


They already are in Ireland, but they need a UKGC license to offer gambling to UK based ppl.
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 09 Aug 23 18:49
Depressing and sad to read this, sorry to see you go Anorak, thanks again for all your contributions to my juvenile hurdler threads.

"The Nanny State wins."

Well, is it the Nanny State?
I'd say it's far more serious than that. People's freedoms are being attacked, not just gambling, petrol cars, gas boilers, banks announcing restrictions on cash deposits / withdrawals, banks cancelling people who views / jobs they don't like, hundreds of councils looking to impose fifteen minute cities. Attacks on the food supply eg Irish govt wanting to slaughter 200,000 cows in the name of "saving the planet", culling birds under the cover of "bird flu".

As for gambling: no push-back from the major firms in the form of a legal challenge under for example, data protection laws. It's as though they're busily building their own funeral pyre and taking horseracing with them.
By:
longbridge
When: 09 Aug 23 18:49
@greenacre

"What will be the position for the social punter - like me - if PP do relocate to Ireland?"

What do you mean?  PP are an Irish firm and always have been.  They have a UKGC licence to offer betting to UK customers.
By:
formoftheace
When: 09 Aug 23 19:09
UK citizens = fodder,fact !

Those who think otherwise keep dreaming…..
By:
barstool
When: 09 Aug 23 19:17
It is a pity Racing Post and racing press in general did not kick up earlier. They can see the damage this is going to do, not just to us punters but their own futures.

What will be the point in buying a paper are subscribing on line for form or a racing channel when it will cost more per day than you can bet with?

I have already decided there is not much point in voting  again. It is just seems to have become a big establishment now, wanting to control every aspect of our lives they seem fit, gambling being a part of it.

Enjoyed the best of times though. My worry is the younger generation seen oblivious what is happening around them. They will be the poorer for it.
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 09 Aug 23 19:18
How does their business model survive?

The Flutter boss has admitted the affordability checks they've imposed has already cost them an astronomical amount, and that's before they are officially imposed and what the final regulations will look like.
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 09 Aug 23 19:20
I'm in Spain at the mo.

The exchange is footy and tennis only.

Very limited amounts matched.

Pana v marseille footy has €12k matched at mo.

I can't log into home account from Spain, wants
me to set up new account, no chance of that.
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 09 Aug 23 19:21
And good luck anorak

A sad loss if you leave the forum.
By:
mitolo
When: 09 Aug 23 19:22
'bird flu' is a reality numbnut

another disaster unleashed by the ccp that they get away with. incredible how this agent of misery and death get away with so much. another virus you might have heard about bankrupted half the world and killed millions but the conspiracy loons arent bothered. they so would be be if it emanated in the west
By:
freddiewilliams
When: 09 Aug 23 19:29
Pana v mar
346k matched
By:
penzance
When: 09 Aug 23 19:30
OP
  GL & ATB.
By:
freddiewilliams
When: 09 Aug 23 19:30
No racing  you have?
By:
liberator of the oppressed
When: 09 Aug 23 19:42
Quite true Barstool I will not be voting cannot be arsed and I'll eventually cancel my RUK no betting pretty pointless I'll go on the sausage be a desperado drink more the better stuff. strange thing is my betting doesn't win overall I'll occasionally hit lucky all common sense and logic says stop but is enjoyable been doing same things on and off since school days. love day racing enjoy the dogs they will soon be eradicated nothing better than a night at the dogs few snifters nice summers evening can afford it but Nanny State says no you will not bet you can do most other things mind you.
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 09 Aug 23 19:46
mitolo, you just keep drinking your kestrel super strength, having their potions injected into your arm when they tell you you're due another, and believing anything the BBC tell you, and you'll live happily ever after.

Btw, those 200,000 cows the Irish regime want to slaughter, that's just how it starts. A bit like "two weeks to flatten the curve"...
By:
madhatters
When: 09 Aug 23 19:49
GL AP
Will miss the stories and insight
Shame
By:
Tattcorner
When: 09 Aug 23 19:52
Will miss seeing your contributions Alan. Read Against the Crowd and also your betting life put online.
Hope you can somehow still communicate on here at times.  All the best.
By:
hulk23
When: 09 Aug 23 19:57
I'm in Spain at the mo.

The exchange is footy and tennis only.


switch wi-fi off and use data on your phone.
By:
mitolo
When: 09 Aug 23 20:01
boy george

i only consume good quality sherbert. you should know that

i luv a jab and cant get enough of em

dont watch the bbc. cos i havent got a telly. but if i did i would. beats the troll farms and loonytube that you enjoy. putin luvs you

no idea about the cows. never heard about it until now. 'regime' you say. is that not derogatory? never heard it from someone endorsing a state. how would yopu describe russia? social democracy?
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 09 Aug 23 20:01
Cheers hulk, but I'm not really wanting to bet anyway.
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 09 Aug 23 20:10
I'd say any population that had to endure their covid policies eg lockdowns, destruction of business / economies, shut down of the health service, isolation of the elderly, shut down of education, was living under a regime.

And bear in mind, mitolo, the same forces telling us they have to slaughter hundreds of thousands of cattle in the name of "saving the planet", were also the very same forces telling us we all had to a potion injected into us all. Hold that thought, hold it some more, until it sinks in.
By:
mitolo
When: 09 Aug 23 20:24
i said regime is always used in a pejorative sense. you used it to describe the irish govt.

the regime that caused this calamity gets a remarkably free ride. would you conceed that ? and do you think the u.s. would be granted such privilege? thats a serious question

as ive never heard about the cow business i have no opinion. you might be right

i aint no expert about potions but someone i know who is at imperial college and has a brain that is nearly as big as yours says vaccine refusers are mugs
By:
impossible123
When: 09 Aug 23 20:30
Stick to betting and horseracing. These topics are sufficiently taxing and time consuming without straying off tangent.
By:
mitolo
When: 09 Aug 23 20:37
he started it
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 09 Aug 23 20:42
i aint no expert about potions but someone i know who is at imperial college and has a brain that is nearly as big as yours says vaccine refusers are mugs

Is that what their models came up with?

Know of anyone who regrets not having the potion injected into them?

No, neither do I.
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 09 Aug 23 20:46
Covid and flu jabs scrapped for under 65s in NHS rollback

You might have missed this one too, mitolo

Allow me to translate.

No f*cker wants this sh*t any more.
By:
mitolo
When: 09 Aug 23 20:49
i admire your resolve

just channel it in a different direction

its almost over now. you still luv vlad the invader?
By:
FOYLESWAR
When: 09 Aug 23 20:52
so basically you have to win constantly  on here dont deposit or withdraw and they leave you alone ?
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 09 Aug 23 20:56
https://www.racingpost.com/news/gambling-review/flutter-chief-executive-peter-jackson-hails-strong-us-business-a-pivotal-moment-as-interim-results-are-unveiled-azFmX3E6lERD/?_sgm_campaign=bs_product&_sgm_source=N178236&_sgm_action=search&_sgm_term=

The chief executive of gambling giant Flutter Entertainment has voiced concerns the consultation on affordability checks launched by the Gambling Commission last month does not reflect the principles set out by ministers that such checks should be "frictionless".

Peter Jackson said the industry regulator should listen to customer concerns and if the commission did not get the system right that "thousands" of customers could face intrusive checks on their betting.

In April the government published its gambling white paper

which set out proposals for reform of the industry including two tiers of financial risk checks which it promised would be frictionless for customers.

Last month the Gambling Commission published a consultation

on how these would be put into effect, featuring further details which not only set out that the enhanced series of checks could be every six months and that checks could still happen even if a customer account was in profit, but also that the information provided by credit reference agencies might not be enough to prevent large numbers still having to undergo more intrusive checks.

Jackson said Flutter – the parent company of Paddy Power, Sky Bet and Betfair – supported the white paper and the aim to protect vulnerable and at-risk customers.

But he added: "There is a concern that the consultation on some of the checks as laid out by the Gambling Commission doesn't necessarily reflect the helpful principles set out by the government. For example, the secretary of state [Lucy Frazer] highlighted they wanted the checks to be completely frictionless.

"We want to make sure that does happen and we'll see how things progress but obviously we will continue to be as supportive as we can."

Jackson added that he wanted to ensure "the Gambling Commission take time to really understand customers' concerns".

"If they get this wrong there are going to be thousands of regular customers who are going to face intrusive and unwanted checks which I think would be very, very unhelpful."

Officials at the Department for Culture, Media and Sport have begun a review of the levy system to make up for a shortfall in racing's income from betting caused by the checks.

Jackson said it was "inevitable" there was going to be pressure on the levy to increase given the situation facing racing.

...............................

The Racing Post wants to hear from you: What has been your experience of affordability checks since the white paper was published at the end of April, and what do you think of the government's proposals? Have affordability checks affected your betting behaviour?
It's a chance for your voice to be heard. Email the Racing Post at editor@racingpost.com

with the subject 'Affordability checks' to share your experiences, your thoughts about the government's proposals, and your contact details.
By:
MJK
When: 09 Aug 23 20:57
Anorak you should have said you were a lgbtq member and they'd leave you alone.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 09 Aug 23 20:59
The left always end up destroying themselves. No surprise to see Betfair going down the same path.
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 09 Aug 23 20:59
its almost over now. you still luv vlad the invader?

I've never said such a thing, why do you lie?

Copy and paste the relevant post(s).

No waffle please, I know that's difficult for you.
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