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Hate to be facetious scrabbler but was it Don the comedian or Don American Pie?
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'Catastrophic'? Is Don speaking in regards to his own comfy spot on the gravy train. Remember when he started out had no problem giving an honest opinion but he soon regressed into the normal don't criticise a jockey pundit.
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To lose a racing channel would be sad. Alcohol advertising will be next in the current environment.
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I stated this on another thread around this topic. It is already illegal for under 18s to gamble. What does it have to do with the opportunities to bet (if they can't bet legally anyway)?
Is there any evidence that kids are being allowed to bet illegally as they are viewing ads on the telly (which they don't watch anyway)? |
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Stewarts could be nearer the mark with American Pie than he realised,the Levee being dry!!
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an equitable solution would be to ban adverts on non-subscription channels. nobody who pays for rtv is in need of protection, although some need other kinds of help
it would be great to lose the garbage channel. its osp is that its fta. so they cant use the subscritption defence and all their meetings can move to rtv, who might get another channel and i dont care if they dont, it can look like celebrity squares as long as its not atr mcleans a crashing bore alright but nowhere near as bad as some others |
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But kids can't bet. So why would anyone waste time creating legislation, making a watershed for betting ads! It just seems like the now ubiquitous virtue signalling, that has no real world positive impact.
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It would be akin to banning ads for new cars until 9pm as kids can't drive.
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Maybe with the change in times since Squire Haughey (the man who brought in the stallion tax exemptions) the irish government is not that keen on horse racing. The HRI mis-appropriating public funds has also left a lot of egg on the face.
Perhaps they have done the maths, and figure that to loose the revenue from racing channels doesn't amount to much anyway and it shows that they have acted in the best interests of the woke minority who cannot handle their gambling |
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Why do they allow tabloid newspapers to advertise "Free £2 shop bet "on the FRONT PAGE ? Surely these newspapers should only be allowed to be sold after 9pm.
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the revenue is one thing what about punters that can't see the pictures ?
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If Irish racing were to disappear from television screens
Where does he get that from? Irish racing will still be on Racing TV. You just won't be able to watch Racing TV if you're unfortunate enough to live under Dublin's jurisdiction. But Irish racing will still be out there for viewers in the UK to watch. |
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you would still be able to watch in on the interweb for nothing
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Yes, mitolo.
McLean seems a bit confused. |
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DON MCLEAN releasing a distress flair from the gravy boat on the grounds he,s only been a shipmate for a short period in comparison to most of his fellow crew
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he has a flare for that. gravy train and boat. is there a gravy plane?
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The Bisto 747
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I wonder what the reaction is going to be when punters in Belfast are watching full coverage of racing from the Curragh or Cheltenham in HD in their living room, while Dublin is left peering at internet feeds.
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wont happen
one surprise is that rtv is so reliant on adverts. didnt think anyone would pay serius wonga for it, or that there that much of it. its also evidence of a seriously flawed business model. they should heed this as a warning and adjust accordingly. first-get rid of half a dozen dunce presenters/pundits and reduce over-manning. no need for 3 in the studio and one on track for kempton i never listen any of the ads. so much so i had to get a new remote the other day despite there being only one button not working-mute |
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Why won't it happen? Are they going to ask Joe Biden to intervene, or something? Perhaps try and get it banned in the UK too? To save the Good Friday Agreement?
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Cider16 Jul 23 14:27Joined: 29 Aug 02 | Topic/replies: 53,433 | Blogger: Cider's blog
But kids can't bet. So why would anyone waste time creating legislation, making a watershed for betting ads! It just seems like the now ubiquitous virtue signalling, that has no real world positive impact. So you think grooming is ok and there shouldn't be any laws against it, maybe on the basis that primary school children aren't old enough to have sex with perverts anyway? Your logic is pretty flawed imo. |
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it wont happen because hri will blow up behind closed doors and it will be watered down
the irish legislature isnt as anti-everything as our shower are, although they aint far behind |
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What on earth has it got to do with grooming?
A watershed applied to something that is legally not possible anyway, is pretty flawed imo. I'm happy to review any actual evidence that daytime ads for betting companies has directly led to children betting illegally with them, and updating my opinion. |
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it would be absolutely trivial for ruk to have an advert free broadcast for irish subscribers, in fact I think they already have one called RTVi. Can't see Sky Racing bothering though, so that would end any aspirations to get back Irish racing.
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If you want to live in a world where the 5pm ITV show (when children get in from school is sponsored by a bookmaker, that's your prerogative I suppose. To be fair, TV is the least of it anyway these days.
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To clarify your position, no ads or sponsorships should be permitted for anything on TV that kids are not legally allowed to do themselves, until 9pm?
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And in all fairness to Gala Bingo - they only have seventy (70) links to slot machines on their home page!
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So no lottery ads for example?
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Dave: Isn't RTV's whole point that an advert-free broadcast would be unaffordable?
Perhaps they could implement a higher subscription fee for Southern Irish viewers, and get around it that way? |
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Ok - If we are putting words (that haven't been said) into each others mouths - you think it's ok for primary school children to sit in betting shops all day, just so long as they can't/don't bet.
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The percentage of kids that go home and turn on a linear TV channel must be in single digits anyway.
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The Management: What is your position on under-18s spending the whole day at racecourses then?
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I like the lottery adverts - first we have Mo (Mohammed) chasing after his ticket - so they have found a Muslim that likes to have a bet - and now they've gone with some homosexual incest - two gay men that look like they are twin brothers. Laughable.
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Not putting words in your mouth, I'm clarifying what appears to be on the face of it, and absurd position. As stated, if there is evidence kids are betting illegally due to daytime betting ads, I'm open to changing my stance. It seems completely implausible, without any evidence.
Personally I would have no objection to children being in a betting shop if they aren't betting. I went into clubs and pubs with my parents regularly (as a child). And managed not to drink alcohol. |
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screaming from beneaththewaves16 Jul 23 17:04Joined: 30 Jan 05 | Topic/replies: 14,754 | Blogger: screaming from beneaththewaves's blog
The Management: What is your position on under-18s spending the whole day at racecourses then? You trying to get Ollie Bell the sack? ![]() |
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Surely the covid reaction was more than enough of politicians passing ineffective legislation, just so it looks like they are doing something to fix a perceived issue, that will have no positive impact whatsoever.
They should concentrate on delivering legislation on things like brainwashing children with unproven ideology as if fact (I assume this may be a very pressing issue in Ireland as well as England). |
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I doubt there is any evidence more kids are betting illegally.
I'd be much more confident that more kids are being groomed and profiled so that they can be proactively targeted, the day after they turn 18. |
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Any evidence at all would be nice. But I'm not sure kids only go to sleep after 9pm once they have reached the age of 18.
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