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The betting landscape is not what it once was. Times were that, if you had a bet, you had a bet on a horse or on a dog, and you went to the racecourse or the dog track or the bookmakers’ office in order to do so.
As well as that, if you didn’t go to the track, you probably couldn’t watch the race, unless it was one of those comparatively rare races that was shown on terrestrial television, which didn’t need the terrestrial descriptor back then. At best, you were reliant on the commentary from the Extel “blower”, which often bore no resemblance to the report that you read in the Sporting Chronicle the following day.
That landscape is but a distant memory now. These days, you go into any betting shop, at any time of the day, and you are presented with myriad opportunities to bet. You don’t have to wait for the first race at Thirsk or at Romford. With virtual racing and virtual dogs and bingo and balls and roulette wheels, if you are standing in a betting shop, there is hardly a minute that goes by, quite literally, in which a betting opportunity does not try to draw you in.
More than that, turn on your computer, and you are only a click or two away from the lure of slots and spins and flashing lights and bonus buys and jackpots.
It is in this environment that the modernisation of gambling regulation in Ireland is essential and, to that end, the new Gambling Regulation Bill is an important piece of legislation. Championed by the minister of state at the Department of Justice and Law Reform, James Browne, the bill passed committee stage on Tuesday evening.
The bill will regulate gambling in Ireland while recognising the betting landscape as it exists today. And that is essential.
The legislation also provides for the establishment of a new dedicated body, the Gambling Regulatory Authority of Ireland, which can only be a good thing. “This bill takes a responsible approach,” said the Taoiseach Micheál Martin at the press conference that was held on the approval of the new bill last November. “It introduces serious new safeguards to protect people from falling prey to gambling addiction, while also balancing the freedom to enjoy responsible gambling.”
The spirit of the bill is to protect children and to protect the vulnerable, and that makes lots of sense. To that end, however, one aspect of it is the banning of all gambling advertising on television between 5.30am and 9.00pm, and such a ban could have far-reaching consequences for Irish racing.
The two dedicated horse-racing channels both said during the week that the coverage of Irish racing would be difficult if the ban was introduced.
“There would be substantial economic and operational challenges in ceasing to carry gambling advertising, sponsorships, and branding on Racing TV,” said Martin Stevenson, CEO of Racecourse Media Group, the parent company of Racing TV. “It is likely to mean that it ceases to be viable to continue broadcasting in Ireland. We are very supportive that gambling legislation in Ireland is modernised to protect the vulnerable, but there is a significant risk that the unintentional result is that racing fans and the industry are no longer able to watch the racing channels in Ireland.”
Matthew Imi, CEO of Sky Sports Racing, expressed a similar view.
“We welcome the new Gambling Regulation Bill as we are strong supporters of responsible gambling,” he said. “We agree with the central premise on the need to protect problem gamblers and children. However, we are extremely concerned about the provision which proposes a ban on all gambling advertising from 5.30am until 9.00pm every day.”
Trying to view this dispassionately — which, admittedly, is not easy when, to declare my own interest, you are in gainful employment with Racing TV — there is an argument for viewing the dedicated horse-racing channels as a distinct entity.
For starters, betting on racing is different to betting on spins and balls and slots. Unlike the spin of a wheel, every race is a puzzle, there to be picked apart and figured out. The research materials are there in the form book for anyone who can take the time to study. It’s guesswork, but it’s educated guesswork. And there is a robustness to every race, an explanation for every result. There is a reason why almost €15 million is spent every year on integrity in Irish racing.
It is possible to make a profit in the long run when betting on racing. By contrast, it is not possible to make a long-term profit betting on the spins of a wheel. You will, of course, get back a certain percentage of your outlay, but, in the long term, that percentage will be less than 100.
As well as that, viewers of Racing TV and Sky Sports Racing, by definition, share common characteristics.
And promotion on Racing TV is less about conventional advertising and more about bookmaker sponsorship during live programming. Also, you have to be 18 or over to have a subscription to Racing TV, and Sky Sports Racing reports that 97 per cent of its audience is over 24 years of age.
If Irish racing were to disappear from television screens, that could be catastrophic for the sport, for the industry— an industry that contributes an estimated €2.4 billion to the Irish economy and employs an estimated 30,000 people directly and indirectly. Not only would the industry lose out financially — and the media contributions have been crucial for racecourses in recent years — but Irish racing would also lose the TV exposure that it enjoys.
In that instance, in the long run, if the history of the loss of television coverage in other sports is any kind of guide, we could be looking at a completely different landscape.
As well as that, if you didn’t go to the track, you probably couldn’t watch the race, unless it was one of those comparatively rare races that was shown on terrestrial television, which didn’t need the terrestrial descriptor back then. At best, you were reliant on the commentary from the Extel “blower”, which often bore no resemblance to the report that you read in the Sporting Chronicle the following day.
That landscape is but a distant memory now. These days, you go into any betting shop, at any time of the day, and you are presented with myriad opportunities to bet. You don’t have to wait for the first race at Thirsk or at Romford. With virtual racing and virtual dogs and bingo and balls and roulette wheels, if you are standing in a betting shop, there is hardly a minute that goes by, quite literally, in which a betting opportunity does not try to draw you in.
More than that, turn on your computer, and you are only a click or two away from the lure of slots and spins and flashing lights and bonus buys and jackpots.
It is in this environment that the modernisation of gambling regulation in Ireland is essential and, to that end, the new Gambling Regulation Bill is an important piece of legislation. Championed by the minister of state at the Department of Justice and Law Reform, James Browne, the bill passed committee stage on Tuesday evening.
The bill will regulate gambling in Ireland while recognising the betting landscape as it exists today. And that is essential.
The legislation also provides for the establishment of a new dedicated body, the Gambling Regulatory Authority of Ireland, which can only be a good thing. “This bill takes a responsible approach,” said the Taoiseach Micheál Martin at the press conference that was held on the approval of the new bill last November. “It introduces serious new safeguards to protect people from falling prey to gambling addiction, while also balancing the freedom to enjoy responsible gambling.”
The spirit of the bill is to protect children and to protect the vulnerable, and that makes lots of sense. To that end, however, one aspect of it is the banning of all gambling advertising on television between 5.30am and 9.00pm, and such a ban could have far-reaching consequences for Irish racing.
The two dedicated horse-racing channels both said during the week that the coverage of Irish racing would be difficult if the ban was introduced.
“There would be substantial economic and operational challenges in ceasing to carry gambling advertising, sponsorships, and branding on Racing TV,” said Martin Stevenson, CEO of Racecourse Media Group, the parent company of Racing TV. “It is likely to mean that it ceases to be viable to continue broadcasting in Ireland. We are very supportive that gambling legislation in Ireland is modernised to protect the vulnerable, but there is a significant risk that the unintentional result is that racing fans and the industry are no longer able to watch the racing channels in Ireland.”
Matthew Imi, CEO of Sky Sports Racing, expressed a similar view.
“We welcome the new Gambling Regulation Bill as we are strong supporters of responsible gambling,” he said. “We agree with the central premise on the need to protect problem gamblers and children. However, we are extremely concerned about the provision which proposes a ban on all gambling advertising from 5.30am until 9.00pm every day.”
Trying to view this dispassionately — which, admittedly, is not easy when, to declare my own interest, you are in gainful employment with Racing TV — there is an argument for viewing the dedicated horse-racing channels as a distinct entity.
For starters, betting on racing is different to betting on spins and balls and slots. Unlike the spin of a wheel, every race is a puzzle, there to be picked apart and figured out. The research materials are there in the form book for anyone who can take the time to study. It’s guesswork, but it’s educated guesswork. And there is a robustness to every race, an explanation for every result. There is a reason why almost €15 million is spent every year on integrity in Irish racing.
It is possible to make a profit in the long run when betting on racing. By contrast, it is not possible to make a long-term profit betting on the spins of a wheel. You will, of course, get back a certain percentage of your outlay, but, in the long term, that percentage will be less than 100.
As well as that, viewers of Racing TV and Sky Sports Racing, by definition, share common characteristics.
And promotion on Racing TV is less about conventional advertising and more about bookmaker sponsorship during live programming. Also, you have to be 18 or over to have a subscription to Racing TV, and Sky Sports Racing reports that 97 per cent of its audience is over 24 years of age.
If Irish racing were to disappear from television screens, that could be catastrophic for the sport, for the industry— an industry that contributes an estimated €2.4 billion to the Irish economy and employs an estimated 30,000 people directly and indirectly. Not only would the industry lose out financially — and the media contributions have been crucial for racecourses in recent years — but Irish racing would also lose the TV exposure that it enjoys.
In that instance, in the long run, if the history of the loss of television coverage in other sports is any kind of guide, we could be looking at a completely different landscape.
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Hate to be facetious scrabbler but was it Don the comedian or Don American Pie?
'Catastrophic'? Is Don speaking in regards to his own comfy spot on the gravy train. Remember when he started out had no problem giving an honest opinion but he soon regressed into the normal don't criticise a jockey pundit.
To lose a racing channel would be sad. Alcohol advertising will be next in the current environment.
I stated this on another thread around this topic. It is already illegal for under 18s to gamble. What does it have to do with the opportunities to bet (if they can't bet legally anyway)?
Is there any evidence that kids are being allowed to bet illegally as they are viewing ads on the telly (which they don't watch anyway)?
Is there any evidence that kids are being allowed to bet illegally as they are viewing ads on the telly (which they don't watch anyway)?
Stewarts could be nearer the mark with American Pie than he realised,the Levee being dry!!
an equitable solution would be to ban adverts on non-subscription channels. nobody who pays for rtv is in need of protection, although some need other kinds of help
it would be great to lose the garbage channel. its osp is that its fta. so they cant use the subscritption defence and all their meetings can move to rtv, who might get another channel and i dont care if they dont, it can look like celebrity squares as long as its not atr
mcleans a crashing bore alright but nowhere near as bad as some others
it would be great to lose the garbage channel. its osp is that its fta. so they cant use the subscritption defence and all their meetings can move to rtv, who might get another channel and i dont care if they dont, it can look like celebrity squares as long as its not atr
mcleans a crashing bore alright but nowhere near as bad as some others
But kids can't bet. So why would anyone waste time creating legislation, making a watershed for betting ads! It just seems like the now ubiquitous virtue signalling, that has no real world positive impact.
It would be akin to banning ads for new cars until 9pm as kids can't drive.
Maybe with the change in times since Squire Haughey (the man who brought in the stallion tax exemptions) the irish government is not that keen on horse racing. The HRI mis-appropriating public funds has also left a lot of egg on the face.
Perhaps they have done the maths, and figure that to loose the revenue from racing channels doesn't amount to much anyway and it shows that they have acted in the best interests of the woke minority who cannot handle their gambling
Perhaps they have done the maths, and figure that to loose the revenue from racing channels doesn't amount to much anyway and it shows that they have acted in the best interests of the woke minority who cannot handle their gambling
Why do they allow tabloid newspapers to advertise "Free £2 shop bet "on the FRONT PAGE ? Surely these newspapers should only be allowed to be sold after 9pm.
the revenue is one thing what about punters that can't see the pictures ?
If Irish racing were to disappear from television screens
Where does he get that from? Irish racing will still be on Racing TV. You just won't be able to watch Racing TV if you're unfortunate enough to live under Dublin's jurisdiction. But Irish racing will still be out there for viewers in the UK to watch.
Where does he get that from? Irish racing will still be on Racing TV. You just won't be able to watch Racing TV if you're unfortunate enough to live under Dublin's jurisdiction. But Irish racing will still be out there for viewers in the UK to watch.
you would still be able to watch in on the interweb for nothing
Yes, mitolo.
McLean seems a bit confused.
McLean seems a bit confused.
DON MCLEAN releasing a distress flair from the gravy boat on the grounds he,s only been a shipmate for a short period in comparison to most of his fellow crew
he has a flare for that. gravy train and boat. is there a gravy plane?
I wonder what the reaction is going to be when punters in Belfast are watching full coverage of racing from the Curragh or Cheltenham in HD in their living room, while Dublin is left peering at internet feeds.
wont happen
one surprise is that rtv is so reliant on adverts. didnt think anyone would pay serius wonga for it, or that there that much of it. its also evidence of a seriously flawed business model. they should heed this as a warning and adjust accordingly. first-get rid of half a dozen dunce presenters/pundits and reduce over-manning. no need for 3 in the studio and one on track for kempton
i never listen any of the ads. so much so i had to get a new remote the other day despite there being only one button not working-mute
one surprise is that rtv is so reliant on adverts. didnt think anyone would pay serius wonga for it, or that there that much of it. its also evidence of a seriously flawed business model. they should heed this as a warning and adjust accordingly. first-get rid of half a dozen dunce presenters/pundits and reduce over-manning. no need for 3 in the studio and one on track for kempton
i never listen any of the ads. so much so i had to get a new remote the other day despite there being only one button not working-mute
Why won't it happen? Are they going to ask Joe Biden to intervene, or something? Perhaps try and get it banned in the UK too? To save the Good Friday Agreement?
Cider16 Jul 23 14:27Joined: 29 Aug 02 | Topic/replies: 53,433 | Blogger: Cider's blog
But kids can't bet. So why would anyone waste time creating legislation, making a watershed for betting ads! It just seems like the now ubiquitous virtue signalling, that has no real world positive impact.
So you think grooming is ok and there shouldn't be any laws against it, maybe on the basis that primary school children aren't old enough to have sex with perverts anyway?
Your logic is pretty flawed imo.
But kids can't bet. So why would anyone waste time creating legislation, making a watershed for betting ads! It just seems like the now ubiquitous virtue signalling, that has no real world positive impact.
So you think grooming is ok and there shouldn't be any laws against it, maybe on the basis that primary school children aren't old enough to have sex with perverts anyway?
Your logic is pretty flawed imo.
it wont happen because hri will blow up behind closed doors and it will be watered down
the irish legislature isnt as anti-everything as our shower are, although they aint far behind
the irish legislature isnt as anti-everything as our shower are, although they aint far behind
What on earth has it got to do with grooming?
A watershed applied to something that is legally not possible anyway, is pretty flawed imo.
I'm happy to review any actual evidence that daytime ads for betting companies has directly led to children betting illegally with them, and updating my opinion.
A watershed applied to something that is legally not possible anyway, is pretty flawed imo.
I'm happy to review any actual evidence that daytime ads for betting companies has directly led to children betting illegally with them, and updating my opinion.
it would be absolutely trivial for ruk to have an advert free broadcast for irish subscribers, in fact I think they already have one called RTVi. Can't see Sky Racing bothering though, so that would end any aspirations to get back Irish racing.
If you want to live in a world where the 5pm ITV show (when children get in from school is sponsored by a bookmaker, that's your prerogative I suppose. To be fair, TV is the least of it anyway these days.
To clarify your position, no ads or sponsorships should be permitted for anything on TV that kids are not legally allowed to do themselves, until 9pm?
And in all fairness to Gala Bingo - they only have seventy (70) links to slot machines on their home page! 
Dave: Isn't RTV's whole point that an advert-free broadcast would be unaffordable?
Perhaps they could implement a higher subscription fee for Southern Irish viewers, and get around it that way?
Perhaps they could implement a higher subscription fee for Southern Irish viewers, and get around it that way?
Ok - If we are putting words (that haven't been said) into each others mouths - you think it's ok for primary school children to sit in betting shops all day, just so long as they can't/don't bet.
The percentage of kids that go home and turn on a linear TV channel must be in single digits anyway.
The Management: What is your position on under-18s spending the whole day at racecourses then?
I like the lottery adverts - first we have Mo (Mohammed) chasing after his ticket - so they have found a Muslim that likes to have a bet - and now they've gone with some homosexual incest - two gay men that look like they are twin brothers. Laughable.
Not putting words in your mouth, I'm clarifying what appears to be on the face of it, and absurd position. As stated, if there is evidence kids are betting illegally due to daytime betting ads, I'm open to changing my stance. It seems completely implausible, without any evidence.
Personally I would have no objection to children being in a betting shop if they aren't betting. I went into clubs and pubs with my parents regularly (as a child). And managed not to drink alcohol.
Personally I would have no objection to children being in a betting shop if they aren't betting. I went into clubs and pubs with my parents regularly (as a child). And managed not to drink alcohol.
screaming from beneaththewaves16 Jul 23 17:04Joined: 30 Jan 05 | Topic/replies: 14,754 | Blogger: screaming from beneaththewaves's blog
The Management: What is your position on under-18s spending the whole day at racecourses then?
You trying to get Ollie Bell the sack?
The Management: What is your position on under-18s spending the whole day at racecourses then?
You trying to get Ollie Bell the sack?
Jul 16, 2023 -- 5:07PM, The Management wrote:
I like the lottery adverts - first we have Mo (Mohammed) chasing after his ticket - so they have found a Muslim that likes to have a bet - and now they've gone with some homosexual incest - two gay men that look like they are twin brothers. Laughable.
Adverts have become a joke, i think myself and my wife, are the only 2 couple in the country who are of the same race and religion
Surely the covid reaction was more than enough of politicians passing ineffective legislation, just so it looks like they are doing something to fix a perceived issue, that will have no positive impact whatsoever.
They should concentrate on delivering legislation on things like brainwashing children with unproven ideology as if fact (I assume this may be a very pressing issue in Ireland as well as England).
They should concentrate on delivering legislation on things like brainwashing children with unproven ideology as if fact (I assume this may be a very pressing issue in Ireland as well as England).
I doubt there is any evidence more kids are betting illegally.
I'd be much more confident that more kids are being groomed and profiled so that they can be proactively targeted, the day after they turn 18.
I'd be much more confident that more kids are being groomed and profiled so that they can be proactively targeted, the day after they turn 18.
Any evidence at all would be nice. But I'm not sure kids only go to sleep after 9pm once they have reached the age of 18.
So you don't think on-line bookmakers* are predatory? And therefore children don't need protecting from them?
*Obviously I use the term bookmaker laughingly - because they are mostly just fronts for slots and casinos. As per the jolly people at Gala Bingo that sponsor the Chase (masquerading as a bingo site but just 70 slot machines on their home page).
*Obviously I use the term bookmaker laughingly - because they are mostly just fronts for slots and casinos. As per the jolly people at Gala Bingo that sponsor the Chase (masquerading as a bingo site but just 70 slot machines on their home page).
I think applying a watershed to betting ads will have no positive impact whatsoever.
What children are being taught/indoctrinated with in schools as fact, such as white privilege, is more damaging by a factor of 10000. But politicians concentrate on things that they think will keep twatter happy, and have no positive real world impact.
The caveat is that I have not been back to Ireland for many years. I am assuming it is similar to here.
What children are being taught/indoctrinated with in schools as fact, such as white privilege, is more damaging by a factor of 10000. But politicians concentrate on things that they think will keep twatter happy, and have no positive real world impact.
The caveat is that I have not been back to Ireland for many years. I am assuming it is similar to here.
That's too political for me to bother with - I thought we were just discussing the rights and wrongs of protecting children from harm.
Yes an I'm saying this will have absolutely no positive impact on the intended/claimed objective. But, if I see any evidence to the contrary, I'm happy to be persuaded.
The wider point is that politicians dedicate most of their time to things that will have little or no positive impact in the real world (most of what they do impacts us negatively). Whether that is deliberate or not I suppose is the political element.
The wider point is that politicians dedicate most of their time to things that will have little or no positive impact in the real world (most of what they do impacts us negatively). Whether that is deliberate or not I suppose is the political element.
On it's own, you're probably right. TV has a diminishing impact and most of the other (higher impact) mediums are a law unto themselves or a free for all/wild west.
screaming from beneaththewaves • July 16, 2023 5:01 PM BST
Dave: Isn't RTV's whole point that an advert-free broadcast would be unaffordable?
Perhaps they could implement a higher subscription fee for Southern Irish viewers, and get around it that way?
I'd be stunned if having no gambling adverts for the Irish subscribers reduced their revenue significantly. My main point is, that it isn't difficult to have a separate Irish feed devoid of ads and bookies' liars telling us that they've taken huge bets on the class 6 handicap sprint.
Dave: Isn't RTV's whole point that an advert-free broadcast would be unaffordable?
Perhaps they could implement a higher subscription fee for Southern Irish viewers, and get around it that way?
I'd be stunned if having no gambling adverts for the Irish subscribers reduced their revenue significantly. My main point is, that it isn't difficult to have a separate Irish feed devoid of ads and bookies' liars telling us that they've taken huge bets on the class 6 handicap sprint.
irrelevant
nothing children see on the idiot box is likely to have any effect when compared to the offensive dangerous garbage they access, in secret, from what are called phones, but are in reality high-powered pcs
nothing children see on the idiot box is likely to have any effect when compared to the offensive dangerous garbage they access, in secret, from what are called phones, but are in reality high-powered pcs
''minister of state at the Department of Justice and Law Reform, James Browne,''
Another meddling out of touch leftie. Put one in charge of something and they're sure to foul it up.
Another meddling out of touch leftie. Put one in charge of something and they're sure to foul it up.
I suspect we can all agree, the internet (and unrestricted access) can be pernicious for children. Most parents don't appear to care, tho. It's certainly not something that can be remedied via central legislation, bolted horse.
Dave: I'd be stunned if having no gambling adverts for the Irish subscribers reduced their revenue significantly.
I don't want to argue with that, because I don't have the figures. But the whole basis of this controversy is that RTV say that they will not broadcast in Southern Ireland if they can't show adverts for gambling, and that's it.
They may be bluffing. Who knows? But that's what they've said, and that's why there's all the hoo-hah. No one has suggested that they might be bluffing.
I don't want to argue with that, because I don't have the figures. But the whole basis of this controversy is that RTV say that they will not broadcast in Southern Ireland if they can't show adverts for gambling, and that's it.
They may be bluffing. Who knows? But that's what they've said, and that's why there's all the hoo-hah. No one has suggested that they might be bluffing.
Someone posted on here a question about RTVs claim that all profits go back into racing. I found out some information, but the structure is extremely convoluted and opaque. It's very easy to get your subscription knocked down to a tenner, and they don't do that much to court new subs either.
But they also haemorrhage money on the on screen 'talent', often employing people totally unnecessarily to sit in the studio. Oft discussed, Nevo offers very little but is still there on a very busy day, today nobody in the studio with only two meetings. Yesterday they had Lydia. Nick and a Dixon at Newmarket. Lots go on a jolly for a big Irish meeting, all exes covered no doubt.
Their production is pretty good imo, so they don't lack for resourcing behind the glass (downstairs). It's quite an interesting set up for a finance geek like me. Even how those seemingly paid for slots masquerading as interviews pass the legality test. It's ran almost like a not for profit (eg a council spending other peoples' cash)
But they also haemorrhage money on the on screen 'talent', often employing people totally unnecessarily to sit in the studio. Oft discussed, Nevo offers very little but is still there on a very busy day, today nobody in the studio with only two meetings. Yesterday they had Lydia. Nick and a Dixon at Newmarket. Lots go on a jolly for a big Irish meeting, all exes covered no doubt.
Their production is pretty good imo, so they don't lack for resourcing behind the glass (downstairs). It's quite an interesting set up for a finance geek like me. Even how those seemingly paid for slots masquerading as interviews pass the legality test. It's ran almost like a not for profit (eg a council spending other peoples' cash)
How anyone can say that kids in Betting shops or pubs and clubs will not influence their future behaviour is beyond belief and ditto advertising not influencing the same!! That apart it is obvious that advertising revenue is paramount to RTV in keeping the broadcasts sustainable,not so different on ITV either,cut the ads revenue for gambling and it would be a different schedule.
Also agree with TM about the ads content on mainstream tv in the UK skewing what is real and portraying gays and ethnics as the normal make up of the UK having only seen a minimal amount on my visits.The UK seems in a minority for the type of portrayal on mainstream tv that nobody sensible could argue does not influence youngsters?
Also agree with TM about the ads content on mainstream tv in the UK skewing what is real and portraying gays and ethnics as the normal make up of the UK having only seen a minimal amount on my visits.The UK seems in a minority for the type of portrayal on mainstream tv that nobody sensible could argue does not influence youngsters?
@sfbth - I can only assume that they are excluding the possibility of a separate Irish stream and speculating on the result of all their advertising revenue ending.
Fair point, dave. I see what you're getting at now.
The hypothetical scenario of allowing kids to enter a betting shop is not the debate here. What age do people stay up after 9pm? I'd say 10/11. Are 10/11 year olds going to gambling addicts as there were some betting ads on the telly 7 years ago. Obviously not. This is just appeasing legislation to appear to be taking action over a perceived issue.
The real issues are poor parenting and poor education, and abdication of responsibility to the state. Not a betting ad on ITV racing !
The real issues are poor parenting and poor education, and abdication of responsibility to the state. Not a betting ad on ITV racing !
Allowing kids into a betting shop (without being able to bet) is. Personally I'd have no objection but it's moot, will never happen and not something that anyone is lobbying for.
Do you have children or grandchildren Cider? Pertinent question imo because you seem to miss the point of the power of advertising and the impact it has on young minds,never mind the parents.
Maybe billions are spent by the companies just for fun?
Maybe billions are spent by the companies just for fun?
Couldn't the Irish breeding industry step in with adverts for their stallions to fill the gap left by the bookie ban, after all they make huge amounts of money from racing and thanks i believe to Bertie Ahern most of it tax free,
brilliant idea brainbox
cos rtv sibscribers betting 2 quid a race are all susceptible to coolmore blandishments and cant wait to spend 100k to get their mares covered by one of their stallions
cos rtv sibscribers betting 2 quid a race are all susceptible to coolmore blandishments and cant wait to spend 100k to get their mares covered by one of their stallions
Yes probably worded that wrong, perhaps i meant couldn't Coolmore pay for features about their stallions on RTV during racing rather than getting free coverage, might make the other huge breeding operations promote theirs as well to generate revenue.
Still think that reply was funny though, brainbox,
Still think that reply was funny though, brainbox,
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