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'We wanted them off the yard' - Chris Honour asks Hillsin owner to remove horses after Worcester controversy
Hillsin, the horse banned from racing for 40 days after a controversial ride by jockey Dylan Kitts at Worcester on Wednesday evening, has left the Newton Abbot yard of Chris Honour.
The trainer has described the fallout from the event as "horrible", with the criticism aimed in his direction going as far as death threats. As a consequence, he requested owner Alan Clegg remove both Hillsin and stablemate Colonel Lesley from his yard. Both horses were transferred to Brian Barr's stable in Dorset on Thursday.
"We wanted them off the yard," said Honour. "I don't want to go racing with them because it's going to keep bringing back bad publicity. I'd rather be away from it and don't want to be part of it. I've never spoken to so many reporters as today and I don't want the media circus around this.
"I'm not part of this, I've done my job and that horse was fit and ready to roll. End of. It's better to just walk from it and they've gone to Brian Barr's."
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Hillsin, the horse banned from racing for 40 days after a controversial ride by jockey Dylan Kitts at Worcester on Wednesday evening, has left the Newton Abbot yard of Chris Honour.
The trainer has described the fallout from the event as "horrible", with the criticism aimed in his direction going as far as death threats. As a consequence, he requested owner Alan Clegg remove both Hillsin and stablemate Colonel Lesley from his yard. Both horses were transferred to Brian Barr's stable in Dorset on Thursday.
"We wanted them off the yard," said Honour. "I don't want to go racing with them because it's going to keep bringing back bad publicity. I'd rather be away from it and don't want to be part of it. I've never spoken to so many reporters as today and I don't want the media circus around this.
"I'm not part of this, I've done my job and that horse was fit and ready to roll. End of. It's better to just walk from it and they've gone to Brian Barr's."
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"I'm not part of this, I've done my job and that horse was fit and ready to roll. End of."
Tbf, as the trainer did have the horse in peak form and ready to run for its life, I believe him!
Tbf, as the trainer did have the horse in peak form and ready to run for its life, I believe him!
Making his first start for Honour in the 2m4f conditional riders' handicap hurdle, Hillsin was beaten one and a quarter lengths in third,[b] but was subsequently suspended from running for 40 days by the stewards at Worcester, who referred the ride by jockey Kitts to the BHA[/b].
The stewards noted how Hillsin had travelled strongly down the home straight but without ever appearing to be asked for his finishing effort.
Kitts reported to the stewards that Hillsin made a respiratory noise towards the end of the back straight, which continued on several more occasions throughout the race, and that the gelding had also hung badly right-handed, which restricted his ability to be more vigorous in the home straight.
Honour said on Thursday that he was satisfied with the ride until the closing stages where, in his opinion, a more rigorous effort by the rider would have seen Hillsin win. The 44--year-old trainer was at pains to make clear that every horse in his care runs on its merits.
"It's a horrible situation," said Honour. "I've barely slept. We've had death threats and all sorts.
I'm not this kind of person. I don't stop horses and the horse ran well. I did my job. My job is to send a horse there capable of doing their best and he did his best. It was his first run for me and he's performed to one of his better levels. I thought he ran very well and what happened after the last is very disappointing.
"I've asked the lad [Kitts] to keep a hold of his head and I think, looking back on it, he'll agree he didn't do enough from halfway up the run-in. The horse was there to do his best. We've ridden him accordingly and he's got it wrong."
Honour told the stewards on the day how he had emphasised to the rider that Hillsin needed to be held together for as long as possible based on his analysis of the gelding's run at Exeter two starts back, when he did not get home for previous trainer Claire Harris.
Honour, a former rider with 75 wins to his name over jumps, added: "I feel sorry for the lad because he's only young. I'm a bit older and wiser and know that hopefully this will blow over.
"The horse has run well. You can see that and he should have won but he hasn't. The only argument is if he had let go of his head, whether he'd have gone forward, but in my eyes he would have gone forward had he been a little more vigorous than he was."
'It's a horrible situation to be in'
The trainer said Hillsin had been in his care for a month, during which time he had not detected a respiratory issue but that he had hung in his previous races, which can often be a sign of a breathing issue.
As well as threats and insults on social media, Honour said he had received anonymous calls on his home landline and that his wife had even taken a death threat from one caller.
He said: "It's upsetting for my whole team. We had a death threat on my landline when I wasn't home to my wife. Nobody needs that and I can't justify why someone would do that. I'm sad it's gone to a point where you feel your family is under threat. We do our best and I'm disappointed the horse hasn't won. It's a horrible situation to be in."
Having opened at 10-1 with bookmakers the previous day, Hillsin was backed into as short as 2-1 on Wednesday morning before drifting. He opened at 7-1 on course and returned at 11-1. It was the first time Kitts had ridden for the stable and Honour said it was the owner's decision to use the 3lb claimer.
Honour, who has a team of 14 horses, added: "There's an investigation going on and I don't think it benefits anybody throwing mud. At the end of the day, I know I've done nothing wrong."
'He's just got it very, very wrong'
Kitts's agent Sam Stronge said he had not as yet spoken with the rider when contacted on Thursday but felt the jockey may have "overegged" the instructions he had been given.
Stronge said: "He's a young lad and I don't think there's any malice in Dylan. I think he may have just overegged the riding instructions. It looked bad but I think he's just got it very, very wrong.
"From Dylan's perspective, I don't think there's anything more untoward than that. The rest, I'm sure, is going to be under investigation but Dylan is not a bad lad and is trying his hardest to get on the best he can."
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Close up comment
Held up in rear, headway 6th, in touch with leaders after 4 out, going easily but tenderly handled home straight, lost ground 3 out, stayed on and went third run-in, eyecatcher
Analysis comment
Debuting for a new trainer, opened 10-1 the previous day and was backed into 2-1 first thing in the morning, but he drifted right back out again before the off. He couldn't have been more eyecatching, looking to be going well in the straight but getting a soft ride. He had faded on the run-in under more forceful handling from this jockey two starts back and he's a long-standing maiden, but this did not look good. The rider reported his mount made a respiratory noise and hung badly right, but the stewards suspended the horse from running in any race for 40 days and the matter was referred to the head office of the BHA.
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One or two FORUMITES - Have already posted, on other Threads, about nefarious connections/ownerships in this rancid race
The stewards noted how Hillsin had travelled strongly down the home straight but without ever appearing to be asked for his finishing effort.
Kitts reported to the stewards that Hillsin made a respiratory noise towards the end of the back straight, which continued on several more occasions throughout the race, and that the gelding had also hung badly right-handed, which restricted his ability to be more vigorous in the home straight.
Honour said on Thursday that he was satisfied with the ride until the closing stages where, in his opinion, a more rigorous effort by the rider would have seen Hillsin win. The 44--year-old trainer was at pains to make clear that every horse in his care runs on its merits.
"It's a horrible situation," said Honour. "I've barely slept. We've had death threats and all sorts.
I'm not this kind of person. I don't stop horses and the horse ran well. I did my job. My job is to send a horse there capable of doing their best and he did his best. It was his first run for me and he's performed to one of his better levels. I thought he ran very well and what happened after the last is very disappointing.
"I've asked the lad [Kitts] to keep a hold of his head and I think, looking back on it, he'll agree he didn't do enough from halfway up the run-in. The horse was there to do his best. We've ridden him accordingly and he's got it wrong."
Honour told the stewards on the day how he had emphasised to the rider that Hillsin needed to be held together for as long as possible based on his analysis of the gelding's run at Exeter two starts back, when he did not get home for previous trainer Claire Harris.
Honour, a former rider with 75 wins to his name over jumps, added: "I feel sorry for the lad because he's only young. I'm a bit older and wiser and know that hopefully this will blow over.
"The horse has run well. You can see that and he should have won but he hasn't. The only argument is if he had let go of his head, whether he'd have gone forward, but in my eyes he would have gone forward had he been a little more vigorous than he was."
'It's a horrible situation to be in'
The trainer said Hillsin had been in his care for a month, during which time he had not detected a respiratory issue but that he had hung in his previous races, which can often be a sign of a breathing issue.
As well as threats and insults on social media, Honour said he had received anonymous calls on his home landline and that his wife had even taken a death threat from one caller.
He said: "It's upsetting for my whole team. We had a death threat on my landline when I wasn't home to my wife. Nobody needs that and I can't justify why someone would do that. I'm sad it's gone to a point where you feel your family is under threat. We do our best and I'm disappointed the horse hasn't won. It's a horrible situation to be in."
Having opened at 10-1 with bookmakers the previous day, Hillsin was backed into as short as 2-1 on Wednesday morning before drifting. He opened at 7-1 on course and returned at 11-1. It was the first time Kitts had ridden for the stable and Honour said it was the owner's decision to use the 3lb claimer.
Honour, who has a team of 14 horses, added: "There's an investigation going on and I don't think it benefits anybody throwing mud. At the end of the day, I know I've done nothing wrong."
'He's just got it very, very wrong'
Kitts's agent Sam Stronge said he had not as yet spoken with the rider when contacted on Thursday but felt the jockey may have "overegged" the instructions he had been given.
Stronge said: "He's a young lad and I don't think there's any malice in Dylan. I think he may have just overegged the riding instructions. It looked bad but I think he's just got it very, very wrong.
"From Dylan's perspective, I don't think there's anything more untoward than that. The rest, I'm sure, is going to be under investigation but Dylan is not a bad lad and is trying his hardest to get on the best he can."
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Close up comment
Held up in rear, headway 6th, in touch with leaders after 4 out, going easily but tenderly handled home straight, lost ground 3 out, stayed on and went third run-in, eyecatcher
Analysis comment
Debuting for a new trainer, opened 10-1 the previous day and was backed into 2-1 first thing in the morning, but he drifted right back out again before the off. He couldn't have been more eyecatching, looking to be going well in the straight but getting a soft ride. He had faded on the run-in under more forceful handling from this jockey two starts back and he's a long-standing maiden, but this did not look good. The rider reported his mount made a respiratory noise and hung badly right, but the stewards suspended the horse from running in any race for 40 days and the matter was referred to the head office of the BHA.
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One or two FORUMITES - Have already posted, on other Threads, about nefarious connections/ownerships in this rancid race
So he's basically saying the jockey was stopping the horse for the owner, not him?
What is totally baffling is if they are gambling owners - and we presume they are - why did they not punt him into oblivion? Clearly fit and clearly would have won by a few lengths were it not for the "ride". Do an old fashioned sp job. 2s out to 11s. Job done. Are the owners thick?
If they did want the horse pulled, why would they use a jockey that has proven he's not good at pulling horses?
Reportslickster • July 6, 2023 4:39 PM BST
What is totally baffling is if they are gambling owners - and we presume they are - why did they not punt him into oblivion? Clearly fit and clearly would have won by a few lengths were it not for the "ride". Do an old fashioned sp job. 2s out to 11s. Job done. Are the owners thick?
Maybe the trainer / yard connections had got on before the owner had chance and the owner didn't fancy the 2-1 that was left?
What is totally baffling is if they are gambling owners - and we presume they are - why did they not punt him into oblivion? Clearly fit and clearly would have won by a few lengths were it not for the "ride". Do an old fashioned sp job. 2s out to 11s. Job done. Are the owners thick?
Maybe the trainer / yard connections had got on before the owner had chance and the owner didn't fancy the 2-1 that was left?
11/1 SP
17.5 BSP
low in running 13.0
Held up in rear, headway 6th, in touch with leaders after 4 out, going easily but tenderly handled home straight, lost ground 3 out, stayed on and went third run-in, eyecatcher
if it was "going easily" in the home straight why did the in-running low not go below 13.0 (SP 11/1) ??
17.5 BSP
low in running 13.0
Held up in rear, headway 6th, in touch with leaders after 4 out, going easily but tenderly handled home straight, lost ground 3 out, stayed on and went third run-in, eyecatcher
if it was "going easily" in the home straight why did the in-running low not go below 13.0 (SP 11/1) ??
be nice if Betfair started fulfilling the Memorandum of Understanding from 2003, probably been actioned about 10 times in 20 years.
Sporting Life
Held up in rear, headway on outside from 5th, lost ground on leaders 3 out but yet to be asked for any effort, closed last, very tenderly handled flat, went 3rd inside final 100 yards, stayed on
Held up in rear, headway on outside from 5th, lost ground on leaders 3 out but yet to be asked for any effort, closed last, very tenderly handled flat, went 3rd inside final 100 yards, stayed on
Totally disagree with the report that it 'lost ground 3 out'. Hardly lost anything having jumped it quite well with the jockey not moving a muscle.
Looked like a 3/1 or less chance between that one and the second last and was cantering after that.
Looked like a 3/1 or less chance between that one and the second last and was cantering after that.
Didn’t see the in running leif but have seen the race you would have had no problem laying 3/1 at that stage
racecaller kept saying how well it was going, or the move is interesting'.
allied to the fact the coont on board hadn't moved a muscle at any point other than to push it on a tad just before the line.
allied to the fact the coont on board hadn't moved a muscle at any point other than to push it on a tad just before the line.
Leif.
I have to agree with the racereaders sorry.
It did lose ground. Round the bend it was disputing a very close 3rd. At the 3rd last it was 7th. All a game of opinions though
I have to agree with the racereaders sorry.
It did lose ground. Round the bend it was disputing a very close 3rd. At the 3rd last it was 7th. All a game of opinions though
justice has been served
they'll be sitting on the beach in barbados bemoaning the fact they can't do it again with Hillsin for another 40 days ....
they'll be sitting on the beach in barbados bemoaning the fact they can't do it again with Hillsin for another 40 days ....
Fair enough but to me there is only one horse tanking along albeit with the jock taking a tug because he doesn't want to get its head in front.
Only one horse you want to be on with 3 to jump, 2 to jump, at, and after the last.
Only one horse you want to be on with 3 to jump, 2 to jump, at, and after the last.
Not disagreeing with that at all but i suppose they work off times etc and he was further behind 3 out than before. Good luck to you
Only one horse you want to be on with 3 to jump, 2 to jump, at, and after the last.
so i presume betfair are looking into who was happy laying it at 13.0, safe in the knowledge that no matter how well it was travelling it wasn't winning ...
.. or is it not in their interests to divulge what goes on here ?
so i presume betfair are looking into who was happy laying it at 13.0, safe in the knowledge that no matter how well it was travelling it wasn't winning ...
.. or is it not in their interests to divulge what goes on here ?
I’m not disagreeing hulk as I don’t really understand the graphs but are you saying it was still around 13 with 2 to jump ?
jimnast - The Graphs disappear from view a few minutes after each race - when the Market is finally/fully settled.
The Graphs are Not available anywhere After that time.
However - on the Timeform Results Pages/site - If you are a Registered user (Free to Register) - Then you can view the Hi/Lo
Highest Price the Winner only was Matched at in the race - But - No Lo (for the Winner) - as it would obviously be 1-01 in the vast majority of cases.
Lo only for the rest of the field - as they will all have mostly gone to 1000.0
I did not see the Graph for this race - as I moved on quickly to another race ... Busy period - end of Afternoon racing overlapping beginning of Evening meetings
The RESULT on the Timeform site shows ... (Hopefully reproducing in format)
........................................................ISP BSP Hi/Lo
1 Liam Harrison BENSINI 13/2 8.31 11/-
2 Isabelle Ryder ¾ EATON LADY (IRE) 3/1f 4.64 -/2.1
3 Dylan Kitts ½ HILLSIN (IRE) 11/1 17.5 -/13
The Graphs are Not available anywhere After that time.
However - on the Timeform Results Pages/site - If you are a Registered user (Free to Register) - Then you can view the Hi/Lo
Highest Price the Winner only was Matched at in the race - But - No Lo (for the Winner) - as it would obviously be 1-01 in the vast majority of cases.
Lo only for the rest of the field - as they will all have mostly gone to 1000.0
I did not see the Graph for this race - as I moved on quickly to another race ... Busy period - end of Afternoon racing overlapping beginning of Evening meetings
The RESULT on the Timeform site shows ... (Hopefully reproducing in format)
........................................................ISP BSP Hi/Lo
1 Liam Harrison BENSINI 13/2 8.31 11/-
2 Isabelle Ryder ¾ EATON LADY (IRE) 3/1f 4.64 -/2.1
3 Dylan Kitts ½ HILLSIN (IRE) 11/1 17.5 -/13
https://www.attheraces.com/atrplayer-popout/VOD/1363063
Red and White Quartered Jacket, White Sleeves and Cap ... Last early moved up easily on outside down back straight to a close 4th .... WALKED up the Run-In.
Red and White Quartered Jacket, White Sleeves and Cap ... Last early moved up easily on outside down back straight to a close 4th .... WALKED up the Run-In.
Thanks onlooker incredible never lower than 13 absolutely incredible
I do wonder why the graphs disappear so uickly after the race, i mean is it really that hard to still have that info available to view with the result?
if the timeform data is accurate there is absolutely no way you would be laying that at no lower than 13 all the way up the home straight. even after it jumped the last and was hard on the snaff its way lower than a 13 shot, possibly odds-on. so should be a very easy exercise to isolate which accounts were happy laying way over the odds.
That 12/1 on the run in tells you all you need to know.
'We wanted them off the yard' - Chris Honour asks Hillsin owner to remove horses after Worcester controversy
Hillsin, the horse banned from racing for 40 days after a controversial ride by jockey Dylan Kitts at Worcester on Wednesday evening, has left the Newton Abbot yard of Chris Honour.
The trainer has described the fallout from the event as "horrible", with the criticism aimed in his direction going as far as death threats. As a consequence, he requested owner Alan Clegg remove both Hillsin and stablemate Colonel Lesley from his yard. Both horses were transferred to [b]Brian Barr's stable in Dorset on Thursday.[/b]
Brian Barr has announced that he is to quit racehorse training.
Reckons he's received death threats related to Hillsin although his primary decision appears to be fed up with training glue factory fodder.
Hillsin, the horse banned from racing for 40 days after a controversial ride by jockey Dylan Kitts at Worcester on Wednesday evening, has left the Newton Abbot yard of Chris Honour.
The trainer has described the fallout from the event as "horrible", with the criticism aimed in his direction going as far as death threats. As a consequence, he requested owner Alan Clegg remove both Hillsin and stablemate Colonel Lesley from his yard. Both horses were transferred to [b]Brian Barr's stable in Dorset on Thursday.[/b]
Brian Barr has announced that he is to quit racehorse training.
Reckons he's received death threats related to Hillsin although his primary decision appears to be fed up with training glue factory fodder.
Kitts was suspended for 40 days on July 14th pending an investigation. Been out for over 50 days up to now but no sign of any conclusions as yet.
Hillsin is now with Alan Jones. The owners have found their spiritual home.
Normally, and sympathetically to a young un you'd say give him a second chance but he's got a bit of previous so he's under a proper cloud.
Saying that, if he's been 'got at' he has an opportunity to say as much and start again with a clean slate.
[maybe with a body-guard though
Saying that, if he's been 'got at' he has an opportunity to say as much and start again with a clean slate.
[maybe with a body-guard though
Brian Barr has announced that he is to quit racehorse training.
wow. Brian made enough out of this that he can afford to quit training. well done Brian, can you tell the rest of us next time
wow. Brian made enough out of this that he can afford to quit training. well done Brian, can you tell the rest of us next time
Aug 31, 2023 -- 9:13PM, screaming from beneaththewaves wrote:
Hillsin is now with Alan Jones. The owners have found their spiritual home.
A match made in heaven
Main Excuse previously - apart from the 'obligatory' -"made a Respiratory Noise" - were ...
"Hung RIGHT, repeatedly"
So, today ..... They run it at Left-Handed Southwell.
Little wonder the Anticipated Drift.
"Hung RIGHT, repeatedly"
So, today ..... They run it at Left-Handed Southwell.
Little wonder the Anticipated Drift.
Surely they will just say needed the run? As so many do when after a break?
Race 4 - 2:10pm
THE SKY SPORTS RACING SKY 415 NOVICES' LIMITED HANDICAP HURDLE RACE (CLASS 5) (DIV II)
At the request of the Integrity Department of the British Horseracing Authority, Alan Jones, the trainer and Bradley Harris, the rider of HILLSIN (IRE) were interviewed by the Stewards before this race and asked to provide information regarding their expectations for today, and the riding instructions given. Following the Stewards enquiry, their comments were noted and the matter was referred to the BHA Integrity Department for further consideration.
THE SKY SPORTS RACING SKY 415 NOVICES' LIMITED HANDICAP HURDLE RACE (CLASS 5) (DIV II)
At the request of the Integrity Department of the British Horseracing Authority, Alan Jones, the trainer and Bradley Harris, the rider of HILLSIN (IRE) were interviewed by the Stewards before this race and asked to provide information regarding their expectations for today, and the riding instructions given. Following the Stewards enquiry, their comments were noted and the matter was referred to the BHA Integrity Department for further consideration.
Is rather ridiculous though - it wasn't fully fit of course, and some obv knew that (laid it) - but isn't that a frequent occurrence in jumps racing?
depends if yopu can prove connections or those close to them laid it ?
Wow! I've never known the BHA was so hands-on eg asking for an insight of a race prior to it taking place?. Can anyone remember the same treatment dished out to a big stable here or in Ireland by IHRB?
Impossible - It seems it is routine for the kind of Hillsin situation. THere have been lots of these pre-race investigation. Whether they have applied the routine to high end trainers I doubt, but then of course they never run non-triers, do they.
another 'respiratory noise'
wind-op before next run, shirley
wind-op before next run, shirley
'blackbarn', thank-you. One learns something new everyday even on this platform.
Keep it up BHA. Do not make it exclusive to minnow stables here. The big stables here, and esp in Ireland have been at it more regularly than I bet over there.
Keep it up BHA. Do not make it exclusive to minnow stables here. The big stables here, and esp in Ireland have been at it more regularly than I bet over there.
Do not make it exclusive to minnow stables here.
Good luck with that request. NFC basically.
Good luck with that request. NFC basically.
Dylan Kitts hit with exclusion order after failing to cooperate with investigation into controversial Hillsin ride
Dylan Kitts is banned from racecourses, stables and all licensed premises after being served with an exclusion order by the BHA on Wednesday for failing to cooperate with its investigation into the controversial ride he gave Hillsin at Worcester in July of last year.
He was handed the punishment in the latest development of the investigation, which began with Kitts being referred to the BHA by the stewards and the horse suspended for 40 days.
At a subsequent disciplinary hearing, Kitts had his licence suspended with immediate effect and he was banned from British tracks.
In a statement, the BHA said: "The BHA can today confirm that Mr Dylan Kitts has been issued with a disciplinary officer exclusion order as a result of his failure to co-operate with an investigation.
"This order, which prohibits Mr Kitts from attending premises licensed by the BHA and/or associating with racing’s participants, has been issued after Mr Kitts failed to provide relevant information requested by the BHA’s integrity team as part of an ongoing investigation. This investigation remains ongoing and the BHA will be making no further comment at this time."
The investigation stems from a 2m4f conditional jockeys' handicap hurdle in which Hillsin finished third, beaten just over a length.
Racing for the first time for trainer Chris Honour, the horse opened at 7-1 and was at one point the 2-1 favourite before drifting out to 11-1 and looked to be tenderly handled in the home straight, losing ground three out then staying on to take third on the run-in.
Kitts and Honour were interviewed following the race and were shown recordings of the race. The jockey maintained his instructions were to "drop out early" and "take his time before mounting a late challenge". He also said Hillsin made a respiratory noise in the back straight and hung badly.
Honour "expressed concerns" over the manner in which Hillsin was ridden from the final flight and later he revealed he had asked for Hillsin and Colonel Lesley, both owned by Alan Clegg, to be removed from his yard. The next day, Clegg maintained he had "done nothing wrong".
Kitts, a 7lb claimer who was attached to the Warren Greatrex yard, has ridden 11 winners in total but is not currently licensed.
Dylan Kitts is banned from racecourses, stables and all licensed premises after being served with an exclusion order by the BHA on Wednesday for failing to cooperate with its investigation into the controversial ride he gave Hillsin at Worcester in July of last year.
He was handed the punishment in the latest development of the investigation, which began with Kitts being referred to the BHA by the stewards and the horse suspended for 40 days.
At a subsequent disciplinary hearing, Kitts had his licence suspended with immediate effect and he was banned from British tracks.
In a statement, the BHA said: "The BHA can today confirm that Mr Dylan Kitts has been issued with a disciplinary officer exclusion order as a result of his failure to co-operate with an investigation.
"This order, which prohibits Mr Kitts from attending premises licensed by the BHA and/or associating with racing’s participants, has been issued after Mr Kitts failed to provide relevant information requested by the BHA’s integrity team as part of an ongoing investigation. This investigation remains ongoing and the BHA will be making no further comment at this time."
The investigation stems from a 2m4f conditional jockeys' handicap hurdle in which Hillsin finished third, beaten just over a length.
Racing for the first time for trainer Chris Honour, the horse opened at 7-1 and was at one point the 2-1 favourite before drifting out to 11-1 and looked to be tenderly handled in the home straight, losing ground three out then staying on to take third on the run-in.
Kitts and Honour were interviewed following the race and were shown recordings of the race. The jockey maintained his instructions were to "drop out early" and "take his time before mounting a late challenge". He also said Hillsin made a respiratory noise in the back straight and hung badly.
Honour "expressed concerns" over the manner in which Hillsin was ridden from the final flight and later he revealed he had asked for Hillsin and Colonel Lesley, both owned by Alan Clegg, to be removed from his yard. The next day, Clegg maintained he had "done nothing wrong".
Kitts, a 7lb claimer who was attached to the Warren Greatrex yard, has ridden 11 winners in total but is not currently licensed.
served with an exclusion order by the BHA on Wednesday for failing to cooperate
bit stinky. only a young lad. could have come clean/co-operated and done his bird.
scared off?
bit stinky. only a young lad. could have come clean/co-operated and done his bird.
scared off?
Good riddance.
Respiratory noise and hung badly lol…..heard it all…..
Respiratory noise and hung badly lol…..heard it all…..
Leif, I strongly suspect that co-operating BY HIMSELF is not a viable option. The failure to co-operate almost certainly includes a refusal to hand over his telephone records. Had he done so (it is a condition of licence that he does) they would have shown who was in touch with him, thereby blowing their cover and exposing them to penalty. So saying " I did it but that's all I'm saying, you're not having my phone" would not have done him much good. I do agree that he may have been better off doing what he could and trying to make a recovery in years to come.
Tidy young jockey ruined by corruption for wahatever ends [financially motivated most likely].
hoss been out since [and made the old respiratrory noise again]
wind-op incoming.
maybe the jockey would have had a wind-op had he squealed
hoss been out since [and made the old respiratrory noise again]
wind-op incoming.
maybe the jockey would have had a wind-op had he squealed
A puzzling decision not to cooperate with the BHA in the investigation. How old is Mr Kitts? I can only assume he's been misguided and probably threatened too.
I think Mr Greatrex is very disappointed for his non-cooperation.
I think Mr Greatrex is very disappointed for his non-cooperation.
Never mind Charles Bryne's, watch Jet Of Dreams in last nights 5.55 Warwick !!
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Backed the horse ( was there ), blatant cheating !!
THE HAPPY HEAVENLY BIRTHDAY FRANK JORDAN 'NATIONAL HUNT' MAIDEN HURDLE RACE (CLASS 4) (DIV II) (GBB RACE)
An enquiry was held into the running and riding of JET OF DREAMS (IRE), ridden by Dylan Kitts and trained by Warren Greatrex, which was held up at the rear of the field, before being patiently ridden until asked for an effort after the last hurdle, which appeared to be a gentle, hands and heels ride, whereupon the gelding stayed on well to finish second beaten by 6 ½ lengths. Both the rider and the trainer were interviewed and shown recordings of the race and the Veterinary Officer reported that a post-race examination of the gelding, during routine testing, failed to reveal any abnormalities, however a second examination approximately 1 hour after the race, revealed the gelding to have slight heat in its left-fore joint. The rider stated that his instructions were to drop in and get the gelding to settle, take his time and creep into the race to try to finish in best possible position, having previously made a respiratory noise. Kitts explained that having jumped slowly away in the hope to get JET OF DREAMS (IRE) to settle and allow the gelding a better view of the hurdles, he became outpaced in the early stages. He added that he felt it prudent to keep a hold of JET OF DREAMS (IRE)’s head after it had started to make a respiratory noise in the back straight, a matter in which he reported at Scales, in order to get the gelding to finish its race. Kitts further stated that JET OF DREAMS (IRE) had started to hang and jump left-handed from the bend turning into the home straight and felt that when he was able to get the gelding to race without hanging as badly, the winner had gotten away from him and that he could not have made up the ground between them. Therefore, Kitts believed that JET OF DREAMS (IRE) had obtained its best possible placing. The trainer confirmed the instructions given to Kitts and added that he was satisfied with the ride in the circumstances as he felt that the gelding had been hanging badly left-handed. Kitts was suspended for 14 days for failing to take all reasonable and permissible measures throughout the race to ensure that JET OF DREAMS (IRE) was given full opportunity to obtain the best possible placing, in that he had failed to ride his mount in such a way that he could be seen to ask for a timely, real or substantial level of effort.
They're taking us for fools !
I knew my eyes didn't deceive me ! The lad's obviously been ''got at!''
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Backed the horse ( was there ), blatant cheating !!
THE HAPPY HEAVENLY BIRTHDAY FRANK JORDAN 'NATIONAL HUNT' MAIDEN HURDLE RACE (CLASS 4) (DIV II) (GBB RACE)
An enquiry was held into the running and riding of JET OF DREAMS (IRE), ridden by Dylan Kitts and trained by Warren Greatrex, which was held up at the rear of the field, before being patiently ridden until asked for an effort after the last hurdle, which appeared to be a gentle, hands and heels ride, whereupon the gelding stayed on well to finish second beaten by 6 ½ lengths. Both the rider and the trainer were interviewed and shown recordings of the race and the Veterinary Officer reported that a post-race examination of the gelding, during routine testing, failed to reveal any abnormalities, however a second examination approximately 1 hour after the race, revealed the gelding to have slight heat in its left-fore joint. The rider stated that his instructions were to drop in and get the gelding to settle, take his time and creep into the race to try to finish in best possible position, having previously made a respiratory noise. Kitts explained that having jumped slowly away in the hope to get JET OF DREAMS (IRE) to settle and allow the gelding a better view of the hurdles, he became outpaced in the early stages. He added that he felt it prudent to keep a hold of JET OF DREAMS (IRE)’s head after it had started to make a respiratory noise in the back straight, a matter in which he reported at Scales, in order to get the gelding to finish its race. Kitts further stated that JET OF DREAMS (IRE) had started to hang and jump left-handed from the bend turning into the home straight and felt that when he was able to get the gelding to race without hanging as badly, the winner had gotten away from him and that he could not have made up the ground between them. Therefore, Kitts believed that JET OF DREAMS (IRE) had obtained its best possible placing. The trainer confirmed the instructions given to Kitts and added that he was satisfied with the ride in the circumstances as he felt that the gelding had been hanging badly left-handed. Kitts was suspended for 14 days for failing to take all reasonable and permissible measures throughout the race to ensure that JET OF DREAMS (IRE) was given full opportunity to obtain the best possible placing, in that he had failed to ride his mount in such a way that he could be seen to ask for a timely, real or substantial level of effort.
They're taking us for fools !
I knew my eyes didn't deceive me ! The lad's obviously been ''got at!''
So Mr Kitts has been "managed" by those experienced in the game and kept schtum as a result. Otherwise opening a can of worms could be challenging for many connected.
Sounds like a Dick Francis novel. Makes it hard to believe all the tv pundits who assure us that racing is straight and readily find an excuse for the bad run of a horse they were touting as unbeatable a few seconds before the start.
looks like he finally coughed up.Exclusion order now lifted.
https://www.racingpost.com/news/britain/bha-lifts-exclusion-order-preventing-dylan-kitts-visiting-any-racing-premises-just-two-days-after-its-imposition-aco1b2P8qCEi/
https://www.racingpost.com/news/britain/bha-lifts-exclusion-order-preventing-dylan-kitts-visiting-any-racing-premises-just-two-days-after-its-imposition-aco1b2P8qCEi/
definitely mobile phone data. Permission given by him to phone company to pass on call data to BHA. That should snooker the others...........so lo ng as they can work out who the calls to DK are from/to. This may prove tricky if they cannot ID telephone numbers of the organisers.
But surely people use back up phones, burners etc when discussing stuff like this, and keep the boring stuff on the main phone that the BHA get?
unless someone goes to prison it'll change nothing.
someone gets warned off and has to do his dodgy stuff through a third party. probably already is.
someone gets warned off and has to do his dodgy stuff through a third party. probably already is.
you'd be surprised Andriy. If you are involved in importing £5m of H, then of course you will use burners or encryption. But these guys are just (in their minds) having a chat with their jockey. Perfectly innocently. That's what they will say. Be tough to disprove but several calls + suspicious betting = finding of guilty. Not that easy though.
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