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Wait…Strauss is bald again?
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regards last night catch i saw the umpires pundits compared it to a player sliding over/touching the boundary with the ball,but to prevent they just get rid of ball staright away,so if catchers do that when completing catch would it be out ,WK,s use to throw ball up in air ,to slip within a second of catching it ,without waiting to see if another player catches it and its given out
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comingupthehill, exactly. Batsmen have done what Bairstow did dozens of times in every game of cricket and wicketkeepers don't run them out. If you get a chance to watch the replay from the camera behind Carey, you will see that the Umpire had turned away before the run out so how was Bairstow supposed to know that he had not called over?
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batsman ducks ball..wicket keeper catches it on ground level then stand up and underarms the ball..is it not dead once he's stood up?
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Put the whole game in perspective......
Australia had the worst of conditions Nathan Lyon injury Starc catch that never was. All in all best team won again and lead the series 2-0. |
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Starc. From an early age,every cricketer tries the hardest to keep their hand between the field and the ball,to deliberately use the ball for support in breaking your fall is just asking for problems,so he either wasn’t in control or blatant,either way not a catch.
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Even without the rules making it clear it was fine, one only has to watch the beginning of this clip..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHTjukljANU Look how quickly Carey releases the ball..it's one continuous motion of receiving the ball to swinging arm back to then releasing as he aims for the stumps. IF Carey had stood up and virtually signalled that the ball was DEAD(even if the umpire hadn't officially declared it DEAD) it would've been morally DEAD. In which case I could understand the "against the spirit of the game" shyte. As it was, Bairstow made a silly mistake by leaving the crease FAR TOO EARLY, and for that he was ultimately PUNISHED. That's all there is to it. Crying/whinging like a loser bitch won't change the facts. |
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Just because keeper did it in one motion is irrelevant,
Bairstow didn’t charge the wicket,didn’t attempt to run. He voluntary left his crease in a manner showing he believed the ball was dead,so the keeper conned him. Scorecard should have read. Tricked out,instead of stumped out. |
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How the **** could the keeper have time to "con him" when his motion never broke stride??? Don't be a sad loser, hilly. ACCEPT the defeat like a man FFS.
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Nobody is arguing that England should have won but it is just not right to say that England had all the luck.
1. Lyon was injured but so was Moeen if not as badly. 2. England had 3 first choice fast bowlers and their first choice spinner out of action. 3. Australia did not need to resort to such unsporting tactics to win the game. Other teams will remember that for a very long time and Australia will pay in the long run. 4. Pope was told he had to field with a serious injury in the second innings in order to be allowed to bat. Lyon was not. Why? |
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Pro .when he decided to throw the ball,he must of spotted bairstow had walked from crease.
1.he knew he was out of his crease,so grabbed his chance. 2.he also knew bairstow thinks the balls dead,but technically I can pretend it isn’t dead,so I can seize my chance to catch him out. He knew he was chancing his arm,literally deceiving him behind his back. Umpire should of over ruled it,but because of starc catch he didn’t. |
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they had watched bairstow,they knew as soon as he touches down,which doesnt make him in,he walks u pitch.last ball of over carey tried his luck,got lucky.out though.
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Aussies have got form for blatant cheating & gamesmanship.
Next the op will be suggesting the sandpaper fiasco in SA never happened. |
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It wasn't cheating but it was clearly unsporting, we're dealing with a sport that is synonymous with sportsmanship, there's even a saying used in common parlance when something unfair occurs that underlines the fact, "It's not cricket",
When a batsmen wanders too far down his crease as the bowler delivers a ball the bowler would typically show the batsman the ball as a warning to not go too far, Carey should have had a word with Bairstow as a warning for next time. It's very interesting that here the batsman was a keeper too and just to rub Carey's nose in it I'd expect Bairstow to not attempt to reciprocate the treatment in the next test but instead clearly issue a warning to the batter first!! |
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A long list
Dennis Lille. Aliminum bat. Trevor Chappell under arm ball Warner sandpaper Keeper,today Marsh and Lille 1000/1 England bet at headingly in the botham ashes. Involved government cos Bradman couldn’t get runs cos balls were too high. And they call us whinging pommes |
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Mind you, Douglas Jardine had the right idea....haven't seen Bodyline on the tele for years.
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Forgot sledging. They started that.
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wicket keepers literally do it every other ball in one day cricket,if you deem it unsporting your given batsmen a free hit to charge the bowler, once it happens like today the rules takeover ,you,d have to change the rules, as the legside umpire called for a check he obviously new the ball was alive
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The 'tannoy' said - 'check being made for a run out at the strikers end' yet the official verdict was 'stumped'?
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Wesdag seems to forget the Broad incident of not walking when he smacked the leather off one. Then Atherton rubbing a substance into ball from his pocket caught on camera and Anderson digging his fingernail into the ball caught on camera. Monty Panesar wrote in his book that he ball tampered with his zipper and that his national team mates used sun cream and mints. Trescothick wrote in his book that he was designated ball tamperer in the 2005 ashes but that the whole team was at it and you seem to like that side. So get your comments right and think about balance when you come out with your BS.
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Charging the bowler whilst the ball is in transit on it's way down the wicket is completely different to after the ball is past the batter and in the keepers hands.
If Bairstow being out of his crease was an over balancing on his part due to the delivery then it would be different, but it wasn't that, he just assumed the ball was dead and ventured out of his crease, whatever way you cut it, in the context of this "particular" sport, it was unsporting. |
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We're not discussing whether any side is better or worse than the other, we're just discussing whether "this" incident was unsporting or not.
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correct
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And we've established it wasn't.
Now, this one I'm not so sure.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcmEbKIkStA I wonder what the "fair spirit" warriors believe that to be.. |
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Well don't make partisan remarks then Wesdag. You were trying to make cheap points without understanding the Pomms have more than enough history of so called cheating. The stumping is perfectly legitimate. The batsman is brain dead for being so unprofessional and he's cost your side dearly. Hope he learns from his unbelievable mistake and doesn't repeat it in future. Unsporting what a load of bo!!ocks.
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100% unsporting,90% not out,given he didn’t charge wicket or over balanced or tried for a quick run,it should of been overturned.
In one day games,the batter is tending to sneak a quick run,the batter is indictating the ball is still in play,this didn’t happen,so wasn’t out. The umpire didn’t over rule because they d over ruled the starc catch. But the keeper shouldn’t have attempted it,he knew bairstow had moved on,he was being fast and loose with the rules. It’s equal to bowler stumping non facing batsman,it’s not really done,unless being unsporting,it’s actually worse than this,has batsman is trying to gain an advantage,bairstow clearly wasn’t. If the Aussies had learned from sand paper gate,when they promised to play cricket in a gentlemanly way,the captain should have not appealed. |
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Utter Bo11ocks. Even the pommy commentators said it was great switched on cricket by the aussies.
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never played lords but interesting to see how much the long room and the overall layout resembles that of the oval.
just saying. carry on. |
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You are absolutely spot on Try My Best.
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It wasn’t because based on years of batting bairstow,felt,knew,presumed that ball was dead,
It’s about the norm,the keeper acted out of the norm, It will just slow the game down,the last thing cricket needs is slowing the game down,every ball will need to be checked,waited for to make sure ball is dead.it will drag the overs .no one can trust anyone anymore. The rules need tightening. Freely leaving crease in control whilst not trying to gain an advantage not out,any other reason for not being in crease. Out. |
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the fact that carey threw the ball before bairstow started walking shows he took the chance knowing its a bairstow trait.does that mean its open season to throw the ball at the stumps after every delivery hoping the batsman strays out of the crease?
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The onus is on the batsman to be in his ground not on the fielding side who wish to take a shy at the stumps.
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Typical Aussies, cheating **** imo.
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Anyone saying it wasn't unsporting behaviour clearly haven't played the game.
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I'm saying it wasn't unsporting and I started playing cricket in Australia from when I was 5 years old to when I was 45. Your point is what exactly
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And now the Aussies are demanding an apology from the MCC members, you couldn't make this sh1t up.
Try My Best, that's say's a lot about you. |
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MCC thugs with ties on. The members involved in that should be turfed out of the Club immediately. Very unseemly. Standards have really gone down in the English game and the fans who go and watch this great sport.
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This great sport doesn't need mankading or stumpings like today. There really is no arguement to be had.
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I think you will find the consensus from the Pro's who have "played the game" that there was nothing wrong with what happened. In fact Aussies were praised for being "switched on". Not my words but your ex-skipper Andrew Strauss.
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