9/2 Famous Clermont

Hulk if billy bunters are too lazy to realise better prices on the exchange then they deserve to lose out on the fractions...

Back it on here then.

if billy bunters are too lazy to realise better prices on the exchange then they deserve to lose out on the fractions

isn't there a big push for safer gambling and protecting the punters ?

how is turning a blind eye to bookies returning a 15/2 shot at 9/2 protecting anyone ?

The 15/2 and the 9/2 are NOT the same bet though are they?

I reiterate, if punters dont realise they are being fleeced then they should not be punting at all.

add to the fact the price on here was the win only market price...

two boards.  one to win, one to place.

shouldn't be offering bets on a horse to win the race at each-way prices ...

nwts - and that is a partial explanation for the difference!!.

What's to be done? They offer goods that can be got at much better value elsewhere. It's like paying £3 for something @ supermarket a..when you know it's available @ supermarket b for £2. IF they had no buyers at their selling odds they'd have no choice but to bring them into line.

Chapman continually tells punters the exchange prices are Win only as if place prices were not available on here. But there again maybe he has a reason for not telling people about the place markets.

Hulk

Two boards ?

2 markets

1. win

2. place

do away with each-way.  want that do half on win, half on place.

bookies are always watching bad each way races like a hawk.  this would do them a massive favour i'm very surprised they haven't looked to bring it in.

Look on the websites they do pick your place ,so you can bet 2 places 3 places 4 places etc

if i walk into hills tomorrow will he offer me a win only price for a win only bet ?

or do i need to place my win only bet at the each-way odds he's displaying. 

(win only would be nearer the win market odds shown here)

I would doubt it in the shops hulk although they have enough screens ,but I think between the online bookmakers there will be win only markets on many races.

Incidentally why should they be nearer here ?

so if i walked in today and said i see you're going 9/2 famous clermont and i understand why because of each way betting.  but i only want a win bet so how about 7/1 or 15/2 ??

If they were 16s today in an ew market they’d still be 16s in a win only market. The place terms would get worse though.

Well if went to aintree today you would have got 7/1 in places win or each way

It was percentage wise a very good each way race for bookmakers paying traditional place terms ,the online would be first 4 or 5

if you wanted to back epatante to beat Const Hill, no places, no each way, just Epatante to win the race.

bookies were giving you 14/1

the win BSP was 36.0 - 35/1

nobody should have been given 14/1 that horse to WIN that race.  that's robbery.

Again there were bookmakers at aintree betting win only and I would be surprised if no online we’re offering a win only market

that's like walking into a casino, sticking a bet on an individual number and he pays you out at 14/1   you wonder how these guys are making money ...

Maybe there not

back a horse at 9/4 when it's 2/1 they'll send you an email telling you to fk off. 

but they're happy laying 35/1 shots at 14's.

137.41/1 shots at 50's ....

double standards ??

Don’t give them your business then just bet on here

ISPs are a disgrace. The fact that tote guarantee to pay no worse than ISP tells you all you need to know.

Where is the transparency with the formulations? Why is % per runner even a thing? It doesn't apply in other countries, it doesn't apply on the exchange.

I agree biscuits when the pandemic came they were allowed to do there own sp as a temporary measure,the online / high street bookstore have far to much power they even dictate to the bha now.

i don't jim.  but lots do. 

so next time i see a fred or a hills advert telling me how much they care about you (the punter), take a break, don't chase losses yadda yadda.  i'll expect a bit at the end saying, oh and by the way we've introduced separate win and place markets to "protect you" from getting a new a'hole ripped with our filthy each way prices.

if you're backing 36/1 shots at 14's you cannot win.  they know that. 

shows how much they really "care" for you when they take your £20 win on Epatante at 14/1.

The man who sell a cup of coffee for £3 plus has a much bigger margin

That's the way of the world all over. Everyone(with the odd exception) out to skin each other for as much personal gain as possible. All for 1 and 1 for 1.

so anyone that backed epatante win only at 14/1 gets their accounts closed on the basis they don't know what they're doing and need to be protected ?

maybe a brief explanation of how they would've won an extra 22x their stake on here had it prevailed.

they are big on protecting people, aren't they ??

Second race at Taunton today. SPs 7/4 2/1 and 5/4 on the first 3 in 9 runner race. This has nothing to do with ew market. Total rip off.

Hulk as I am sure you already know they appear to protect people because they are told to.

Perhaps all these punters should bet on here I should think if they knew everybody wins on here they would.

Saw that jackdaw , 113% the top three in a 9 runner race whatever the race status is diabolical.