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ashleigh
16 Mar 23 20:05
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£1 e/w acca on 5 horses, 4 Cheltenham winners the cashed out before Luccia got beat. if she won would have collected £283k.

not sure i would have got out for a £2 stake. well done them.Cool

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By:
know all
When: 16 Mar 23 20:09
always use cash out and he did the right thing, cash out then have a bit on just in case it won
By:
Angela Rebecchi
When: 16 Mar 23 20:13
they gave the punter a horrible cash out their give Luccias price the ticket at that time was worth about double
By:
Angela Rebecchi
When: 16 Mar 23 20:14
I get why they took it, but ironically they make more by omitting Luccia from it in the first place. It's cash outs like this that I am sure Tony Bloom would happily privately offer another 20% on top to keep the ticket for himself.
By:
impossible123
When: 16 Mar 23 20:18
I'd have cashout too esp in a big field and steeplechase or lay it if it was a hotpot; £50k is a lot of money unless one is in the same league as the Energumene backer.
By:
STATSMAN
When: 16 Mar 23 20:19
I totally agree with Angela Rebecchi
By:
the dealer
When: 16 Mar 23 20:28
Ìt must be well in the books favour or they wouldn't offer it. It's really popular with   football punters but have heard some horror stories and very few worthy cash outs.
By:
geoff m
When: 16 Mar 23 20:30
Poor value but not many would turn it down I certainly wouldnt.. @ that stage it isnt a £2 stake its a £50 k stake on Luccia @ appalling odds.
By:
impossible123
When: 16 Mar 23 20:31
If one was friendly with a bookie one could lay it off at the track eg lay £75k at 2/1; outcome a minimal return of £75k or £133k (283-150) if Luccia had won.
By:
workrider
When: 16 Mar 23 20:34
Few bookies on course willing to take that kind of bet Impossible..
By:
spyker
When: 16 Mar 23 20:45
First off ew multiples (L15 etc) are a way to the paupers grave imo as you basically need  all 4 to place to win a reasonable profit (unless massive prices obv) so having done the £1ew acca surely he does another £1 win acca and cash 1 out? Do a L15 but also do a £1 acca and you're quids in (when it happens) either way for minimal outlay as even over time adding £1 to each L15 isn't going to cost you as much in cashing out when this happens - 'when' obv not if as all us acca backers know! There must e several volumes of books worth printing of all the football punters that did/didn't cash out and regretted it forever, same story over and over though.
By:
freddiewilliams
When: 16 Mar 23 20:45
He wooda took 40 even 30
By:
impossible123
When: 16 Mar 23 20:54
'workrider', I think a big hitter could persuade his "friendly" bookie to help lay it off for a figure more than the £50k cashout, and evenly split the amount above £50k received in the process esp in a big meet like Cheltenham. To his bookie it's just another financial positive business transaction.
By:
maleuk01.
When: 16 Mar 23 20:55
L15s and L31s give great value i think.

Especially double odds 1 winner, but more importantly on extra place races. They can certainly add up!
By:
impossible123
When: 16 Mar 23 21:00
True, but the stake increases monumentally. Multiples are profitable if at big odds or at least 4/1 plus each selection.
By:
workrider
When: 16 Mar 23 21:00
Impossible I know some very big bookies here from going racing and they would have a very hard time laying it off even at Cheltenham. Least we forget this was just a ordinary punter backing I presume in a betting shop ,so why we are even going there is a question in itself.Laugh
By:
clacton
When: 16 Mar 23 21:07
Punter will probably have to supply paperwork to prove he/she can afford to bet £2.
By:
impossible123
When: 16 Mar 23 21:12
'workrider', I guess so, £283k is a monumental amount.
By:
Angela Rebecchi
When: 17 Mar 23 00:13

Mar 16, 2023 -- 8:18PM, impossible123 wrote:


I'd have cashout too esp in a big field and steeplechase or lay it if it was a hotpot; £50k is a lot of money unless one is in the same league as the Energumene backer.


you should never add the legs of an acca if it's one you are going to cash out on though, as you are giving away a lot of money for no reason

By:
Angela Rebecchi
When: 17 Mar 23 00:16

Mar 16, 2023 -- 8:30PM, geoff m wrote:


Poor value but not many would turn it down I certainly wouldnt.. @ that stage it isnt a £2 stake its a £50 k stake on Luccia @ appalling odds.


it's a £50k stake at VERY GENEROUS odds, over 5.0, as the payout would have been £283k

.:. always omit the legs you will cash out by, you are donating away a large amount of your winnings

I am guessing in this scenario if they left out Luccia they would have collected closed to £100k, so the bookies offered 50% of the bet and laughed their way to the bank when they accepted it

By:
driver2
When: 17 Mar 23 02:03
The bookmaker paid out £50k to a £2 stake. I don't think they were laughing their way to the bank!
By:
1st time poster
When: 17 Mar 23 09:15
i backed 4 of yesterdays big prices in ew singles dont do multiple bets, but in ew bets with enhanced places etc,
always confused as how you pick the long priced winners alongside a 6 to 4 shot unless you just do horse number,names ,birthdays etc etc,but doing that suggests you wouldnt no about cash outs etc,etc,
but well played who,ever it was
By:
Bentring
When: 17 Mar 23 09:27
I agree with Freddie different punters different cashout offers,some guy on Facebook yesterday had £2ew T on Stage star 8/1 envoi 12/1 &sir du 66/1 & cashed out for £164 bet photo on Facebook I hope his family hid all the ropes
By:
formoftheace
When: 17 Mar 23 09:51
50k flashing in front of you and waiting for Nico to boost it in a race like that carrying hype……take the 50k all day……imo..
By:
longbridge
When: 17 Mar 23 10:18
As ever, I don't get the thinking here.

If you stake a 5-fold, but know you'd be tempted to cash out after 4 if the first four all come in, why not split your stakes and bet the 4-fold and the 5-fold for half the amount each?
By:
harry callaghan
When: 17 Mar 23 10:18
Shocking cash out offer that for the punter. Should have been nearer 75k. Probably had no option but to take it
By:
sparrow
When: 17 Mar 23 10:22
The vast majority of punters putting on these sort of bets would not for one moment consider all these different scenarios being suggested here. They will simply decide what to do by taking into account their own financial circumstances.
By:
formoftheace
When: 17 Mar 23 10:28
Should have been at least 75k….but in a race like that……50 large would look good in any account
By:
Movewiththetimes
When: 17 Mar 23 10:30
If you're putting £2 accas on don't think they will have tens of thousands in betfair to lay off, WD that punter would of had a great night celebrating.
By:
harry callaghan
When: 17 Mar 23 10:35
Formoftheace. She was trading at well under 2/1 so 75k would seem a reasonable ish offer fair enough if she was 11/4 or even slightly higher, I’d say it was a poor cash out offer for the return expected
By:
JayRogers
When: 17 Mar 23 10:42
Can you not do a "partial cashout"?
Would still have been a pathetic offer, but a few quid in the hole and a run for your money.
By:
Trident
When: 17 Mar 23 10:44

Mar 17, 2023 -- 9:51AM, formoftheace wrote:


50k flashing in front of you and waiting for Nico to boost it in a race like that carrying hype……take the 50k all day……imo..


100 %

By:
formoftheace
When: 17 Mar 23 10:51
I think there was a scenario not long ago the punter got a call and accepted an offer…..the fav they would have been waiting on fell early at short odds…..
By:
Trident
When: 17 Mar 23 10:52
There was a small drift on Luccia I noticed yesterday. Horse never looked happy, think Nickys horses are not at the races this week.
By:
Trident
When: 17 Mar 23 10:53
Basically the cashout was a 25,000-1 shot. In my view even with the poor cashout it was a correct cashout
By:
formoftheace
When: 17 Mar 23 10:56
What could/would you do with fifty large……a lot..and what would it do to the mindset….
By:
Trident
When: 17 Mar 23 11:04

Mar 17, 2023 -- 10:56AM, formoftheace wrote:


What could/would you do with fifty large……a lot..and what would it do to the mindset….


Betting is just All relative to your life. Tony Bloom putting 100k on his horse, is the same as some guy putting 500 quid he's saved up with a reasonable job.

By:
Trident
When: 17 Mar 23 11:06
I myself have a fascination with winning big from something very, very small.
By:
Trident
When: 17 Mar 23 11:08
ITV highlight these huge cash bets- it's quite pathetic really, because as I say it's all Relative to how much money you have in the first place.
By:
CagliariG
When: 17 Mar 23 13:22
This thread highlights how punters have never had it so good,not so long ago the cashout did not exist and he would have got nothing.Those saying it was a poor cashout should bear that in mind £50K V Zilch?
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