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That's the Beauty of having a Tote owned by people that decided it would be better for everyone if they " seeded " the Pools.!!
Nobody will ever know what the TRUE payout should be as they won't disclose how many units they have " Bought" themselves,for me the Placepot and other " seeded " pools became unplayable. |
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Maybe the Forums self appointed spokesperson ( westberks ) will come along and explain to you and everyone else the need for the Tote to bet into these pools.??
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will give it a go to end of week but as regular placepotter( weekends and festivals ) becoming very disillusioned with dividends.
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Morpeth, you are not alone, until the Tote become transparent and let the public know EXACTLY why the pools are being tampered.
I used to look forward to the large pools at the bigger meetings, but what is the point now.? |
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* Tampered with.
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Tote had problems yesterday, shops were down including some online.
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Been doing placepots every day for 35 years plus
Was following the pool race by race yesterday and I thought the % of units on the fav, 2nd fav etc was roughly in accordance with usual Not defending the nanny goat at all Think it's a disgrace that they can even be allowed to do this "seeding" thing, let alone not declaring how and when they're doing it Could be more revealing if there's a day with "bankers" out of the frame |
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Reg if you do the placepot everyday surely you have noticed the difference in the return. Because of the seeding I make the take out nearly 40% guesstimated of course. Yesterday another prime example that should of been near £40 return
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Even the win pool seeded, pure corruption. Anyone check the tote returns from all the winning horses yesterday? Even the 18/1 shot returned at industry sp. Like I’ve said before it’s on the same model as Chester bet
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Well said Harry, just needs more folk to realise whats going on or the Tote to speak up about the need to bet into their own pools.!
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changed from pot to begging bowl
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day 2
placepot 6 1 24 4 15 1 |
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you can imagine the thousands thinking big payout yesterday telling everyone they know placepot up, twenty quid ffs thats embarrassing
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Harry, as I said earlier, yesterday the race by race units were about normal for the relative prices
I will agree though that I have seen some smaller than expected returns recently However, I try and perm up to get the bigger dividends Monday evening meeting, wolves I think, had 4 favs and a bit of a result last leg, fav withdrawn late on... That paid 250 quid which I was more than happy with. I will look even closer today at running totals |
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To be fair there were over 64,000 winning units yesterday: https://totepoolliveinfo.com/2023-03-14/racecard/Cheltenham/Placepot
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We know how many winning units there were, its not that we are discussing,answer the questions relating to the scandalous seeding if you want to help.
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westberks
Can you identify how many of those 64,000 units were Tote "owned" - thank you |
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I was unaware that this was happening, so thanks for highlighting it. I always do placepots at the big meetings but I may well stop now. Scandalous behaviour by the tote.
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- The licensing objectives
1.21 The three licensing objectives (s.1 of the Act) which guide the way that the Commission and licensing authorities perform their functions and the way that gambling businesses carry on their activities, are: preventing gambling from being a source of crime or disorder, being associated with crime or disorder, or being used to support crime ensuring that gambling is conducted in a fair and open way protecting children and other vulnerable persons from being harmed or exploited by gambling Someone is ignoring one of their key statements. |
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Where is what the tote are doing is "FAIR AND OPEN"
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You are only making it worse wb, can't you see by posting this crap every day on here and elsewhere and no transparency will kill the placepot in the end.
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We will add money to the pool
We won't tell you how much, We won't tell you when We won't tell you how many winning tickets are ours Scandalous imho |
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2/5
4 3/10/19 2/3 4 7/18 Friday is normally the day for big perms and big dividends, probably due to the Albert Bartlett |
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... Exactly Tom, I actually put all that forward to the Gambling Commission, and was told in a roundabout way that so long as what they are doing is mentioned in their Terms+Conditions there is not much anyone can do about it. !! Wish I hadnt of bothered FFS.
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That's really poor GC to be honest. Looks like it's a free far all, to grab as much as they can.
How that can possibly be seen as fair and open is mind blowing. Well done for trying though |
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tote website takes a long time to tell you how many units/percentage on each horse, race is over and still no info.
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Still not updated MM
never used to take so long |
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Had first 3 winners, we all know how this goes
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Lol good luck
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Cheers dealer, filled with dread hate it when they win
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2nd, 2nd, 1st - it won't last!
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That leg must have blown out a lot
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Westberks wont answer any queries. Its @EdPownall from Twitter. He gets paid by the tote to SPAM the internet with all their bullshit.
He also calls himself a comedian, though i MILLION POUND GUARANTEE, if you watch any of his stuff, you wont laugh. **** comedian, even **** shill. |
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hmmm, updated now, why has it missed second race out though ?
https://tote.co.uk/results/cheltenham/15:30/placepot |
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It must have done t.d.
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Looks like around 14-1
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* Didn't realise there was a swear filter. Can fill in your own expletives. I went with $h1T & $h1TTer.
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