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N. H.
15 Mar 23 01:39
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Good things placed, but last leg, 18/1 6/1 10/1 18/1.....£21.00  dividend puts me off playing
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Report Ibrahima Sonko • March 15, 2023 4:55 PM GMT
Really needed no18 out of the places.
Report SlippyBlue • March 15, 2023 4:56 PM GMT
Dinoblue spoils the party.
Report Trident • March 15, 2023 4:57 PM GMT
What did it pay?
Report Ibrahima Sonko • March 15, 2023 5:00 PM GMT
£53 ish
Report morpteh mackem • March 15, 2023 5:00 PM GMT
about 50% through there
Report acey deucy • March 15, 2023 5:02 PM GMT
Biggest Placepot pools i have ever seen and p1sh poor dividends.
Report Trident • March 15, 2023 5:03 PM GMT
Could of been so diffrent!
Report JJmbe • March 15, 2023 5:09 PM GMT
Had 3rd 5th and 6th looks like ill break about even, not the bet it once was sadly.
Report JJmbe • March 15, 2023 5:11 PM GMT
Laid out £96, returned £128.40 PlainPlain.
Report Macintoshmatty • March 15, 2023 5:18 PM GMT
I do my p/pots on Collosus bets, Paid £41 yesterday, £90 today. Cash outs that don't take the pee as well.Get yourselves over there lads.
I have no connection with Collosus but think it's a good product and how can you trust the Tote with their clandestine behaviour
Report casemoney • March 15, 2023 5:22 PM GMT
£90 today Plain How much was in the Pool matty ?
Report SlippyBlue • March 15, 2023 5:22 PM GMT
At Cheltenham I got my stake + 25%.
Huntingdon was much better, stake × 400%.
Report JJmbe • March 15, 2023 5:25 PM GMT
wd slippy.
Report GLASGOWCALLING • March 15, 2023 5:43 PM GMT
Nice one Slippy. Happy
Report Trident • March 15, 2023 5:45 PM GMT
I've been doing my placepots with Colossus Bets for years, I recommend them. Even if you get to the 4th Leg of a placepot, you can cash out at a decent rate IMO.
Report Macintoshmatty • March 15, 2023 5:54 PM GMT
they guaranteed £20,000 today casemoney.Usually on a saturday they guarantee £5000 for the biggest meeting. Most meetings its £3000.
Thing is the dividends are usually better than the tote version whatever the pool. If a pool is £1000,000 but someone has inside knowledge and uses it to their advantage I don't want to play under those rules. To my mind it stinks
Report Macintoshmatty • March 15, 2023 5:58 PM GMT
typed a reply and lost it casemoney. £20,000 guaranteed for cheltenham, usually £500 biggest saturday meeting otherwise £3000. It's not really important though as its the dividend that counts and these are usually better than the tote. Plus your on a level playing field imo. I started on there years ago and haven't done a p/pot with the tote since.Try it
Report Macintoshmatty • March 15, 2023 5:58 PM GMT
bloody hell!!
Report Tattcorner • March 15, 2023 6:33 PM GMT
Matty...can you do a partial cash-out in the later stages?
Report GLASGOWCALLING • March 15, 2023 7:28 PM GMT
... Well said Matty, had heard of Colossus before but never bothered to check it out, will have a look Ta.
Report CLYDEBANK29 • March 15, 2023 11:04 PM GMT

Mar 15, 2023 -- 1:44PM, the dealer wrote:


We will add money to the poolWe won't tell you how much, We won't tell you whenWe won't tell you how many winning tickets are ours Scandalous imho


worse than that

Report CLYDEBANK29 • March 15, 2023 11:08 PM GMT
much worse that that in fact
Report xmoneyx • March 16, 2023 12:24 AM GMT
the big south african guy on ATR

placepots S.A were linked to diff meeting so thet could be huge

he did well perming them  MAX
Report xmoneyx • March 16, 2023 12:33 AM GMT
readallaboutit (joe)

I MUST stress though that YOU have zero chance of doing what i do because using an exchange and bookmakers ONLY is not the way to make money.

The TOTE is the only answer and as an owner it just so happens to tick a few other boxes over and above winning.

Yes i am a FIELD player, not every leg but in some case FIELD is the only answer.

anyone that wants to openly debate and ultimately listen to betting strategies from me is most welcome to enquire , being civil though is a must.

So the 1st thing YOU need to know is that SA / HK and Aus is light years ahead when it comes to pool betting. In SA we have % betting, this means that you could work out a Scoop 6 for £12 342 and go to the window and bet £ 10 ands it will print a ticket with your numbers and the % you have of the pool. To some this might appear ludicrous but at that precise moment 2 things occur:

1: the small punter has a chance of catching the Scoop6 and getting a return relative to his lifestyle/spend
2: much more money goes into the pools.
Report Trident • March 16, 2023 6:50 AM GMT
With Colossus Bet at least you're playing the Placepot with other players. I'm not in any way associated with them, but will highlight a company I trust.

Here another thing with doing the Placepot with Colossus, there are no Casinos, You can't do Win singles, it's just great for horse racing and football.

I've cashed out at the 4th, 5th Leg quite a few times after I wasn't happy with my horse drifting late, (seems to be a decent percentage cashout, calculating horses you have left)

Give them a try, the Tote is operating without much respect for punters IMO.
Report Trident • March 16, 2023 6:56 AM GMT
I forgot to mention, you can join daily syndicates on Colossus too, they are good fun for a few quid.
Report Trident • March 16, 2023 7:00 AM GMT
And if your horse really drifts and stinks,(often unplaced if you've been a punter for years)  the Cash out offer does not reflect the market because your up against other players and your horse has already been selected before the off, so tickets left reflect the cash out, which is why I prefer to place laying on here.
Report Regbutler • March 16, 2023 7:54 AM GMT
Trident, or anyone else, on bet everyday site there is a place 6 option next to Placepot option
I take it this links into the colossus site?
So, today I will do the same perm on both and see how it goes
My mate swears by the colossus one
My main concern is that the more serious money is in it, and there's no "mug money" going into it from on and off track.
Couldn't think of a better way to say that, didn't mean to sound condescending
Report breadnbutter • March 16, 2023 1:41 PM GMT
Bet should be set fair, should be... but the BIG single lines will be bang on the result , best guessers in the game bar none, know a coin toss before it lands, every time.
Report casemoney • March 16, 2023 1:41 PM GMT
Smashed to Smithereens , good luck to anyone still in  BIG BUCKS beckon
Report Ibrahima Sonko • March 16, 2023 1:43 PM GMT
Great start, only got 6 in the next.
Report casemoney • March 16, 2023 1:52 PM GMT
Great Start Ib  G luck mate   ,Didnt play had about 30OO Lines in the Plan  Would have gone out
Report unclepuncle • March 16, 2023 2:12 PM GMT
Reckon Shishkin and Luccia will blow out as well so could be a whopper.Excited
Report Ibrahima Sonko • March 16, 2023 2:18 PM GMT
5th ffs.

Good luck to all who remain, it will be a whopper.
Report breadnbutter • March 16, 2023 2:19 PM GMT
4th
Report SlippyBlue • March 16, 2023 2:27 PM GMT
£54.80 after second leg. I just can't bring myself to do the quadpot.
Report the dealer • March 16, 2023 2:30 PM GMT
Could be a belter,  best of luck if ýour still in.
Report longbridge • March 16, 2023 2:46 PM GMT
Went out in the 1330, had the 1st in the 1410 - will b e just like me if I get the last 5 legs of a huge placepot and miss the first.
Report breadnbutter • March 16, 2023 3:01 PM GMT
That's  the heart had its Mot , cheers shishkin.

If I can get through next will be happy....
Report GLASGOWCALLING • March 16, 2023 3:03 PM GMT
What happens if the Tote win it with a single unit.??
Report GLASGOWCALLING • March 16, 2023 3:04 PM GMT
..
Good Luck B + B.Happy
Report breadnbutter • March 16, 2023 3:46 PM GMT
Sadly not Glasgow , floored and Lee thar, backed the winner for small stakes, had the second as well  but no fc,so  not all bad,had 4-7-13-16 in next and unnamed fav in last.

Not even close tbh.
Report casemoney • March 16, 2023 3:48 PM GMT
274   Thought that would have knocked more out TBH
Report casemoney • March 16, 2023 3:48 PM GMT
274   Thought that would have knocked more out TBH
Report liberator of the oppressed • March 16, 2023 4:08 PM GMT
Wish me luck 1 7 & 12 not for a lot
Report liberator of the oppressed • March 16, 2023 4:19 PM GMT
Done on the line
Report longbridge • March 16, 2023 4:21 PM GMT
so far (two selections per race)
xx
x1
2x
2x
x3 (or maybe x4 depending how they split the pair)
Report liberator of the oppressed • March 16, 2023 4:25 PM GMT
Haut jock looked as though he had put in a shift.
Report GLASGOWCALLING • March 16, 2023 4:27 PM GMT
Unlucky that Liberator. Sad
Report liberator of the oppressed • March 16, 2023 4:30 PM GMT
Desperate Glasgow am on Under control in next big prices.
Report casemoney • March 16, 2023 4:39 PM GMT
Pays 5k Worse Way
Report casemoney • March 16, 2023 4:40 PM GMT
Sorry Thats Wrong Think 4 k worse way
Report breadnbutter • March 16, 2023 5:03 PM GMT
Should be over 10k
Report layemall • March 16, 2023 5:05 PM GMT
£10283.54 I reckon....wow
Report Jack Bauer "24" • March 16, 2023 5:09 PM GMT
£14,087.30
Report Jack Bauer "24" • March 16, 2023 5:09 PM GMT
£14,087.30
Report Macintoshmatty • March 16, 2023 5:09 PM GMT
collosus paid £17,446 for those that haven't jumped ship yet
Report layemall • March 16, 2023 5:10 PM GMT
https://totepoolliveinfo.com/2023-03-16/racecard/Cheltenham/Placepot/6

final pool when they have taken their 27%.....I took the 27% off first..sorry
Report casemoney • March 16, 2023 5:10 PM GMT
Shocked
Report casemoney • March 16, 2023 5:14 PM GMT
Anyone on here Have it I wonder
Report layemall • March 16, 2023 5:20 PM GMT
Mighty Potter and Appeciate It not being placed in the first took nearly £1.8 million out of a just over £2 million total pool !!
Report layemall • March 16, 2023 5:25 PM GMT
https://totepoolliveinfo.com/2023-03-16/racecard/Cheltenham/Placepot/1

for those interested.
Report blackbarn • March 16, 2023 5:34 PM GMT
Evening all.  I had two £1 lines going on to Luccia in the last. A combination of Betfair and Bank rules limited me to a "cash out" profit of just over £2.5k.  Closest I have ever got got to a big one!!.
Report breadnbutter • March 16, 2023 5:43 PM GMT
Funny enough if I had got through the stayers I would have been in same boat, first of all well done Blackburn and its an interesting convo.

Is there not a "buy my ticket" type company in operation in uk?

Is the max deposit 1144 or summit?

Anyway not a bad days work but yea you need to have the facility to lay in last, very frustrating situation.
Report breadnbutter • March 16, 2023 5:46 PM GMT
*11444
Report casemoney • March 16, 2023 5:46 PM GMT
Always handy if there is Shorty in the last WD Black  Nice work
Report blackbarn • March 16, 2023 5:50 PM GMT
breadnbutter - I need more friends with big banks!!! I knew I was on for 7k/8k at least; and loaded and laid as much as I could but.......Cool but a bit pleased to be able to be able to say that I nearly won "£15 grand, pal" which I think is what it would have been if Luccia had been third instead of fourth.
Report JJmbe • March 16, 2023 6:12 PM GMT
Had four running for me in 5th leg finished 9th 11th 12th and pu sickening, banked luccia in the last, could of got a nice few quid out of place laying it .
Report layemall • March 16, 2023 6:18 PM GMT
Nice one blackbarn....if it makes you feel any better though... if Luccia had finished 3rd instead of 4th, then it would have paid £3256.16 for a £1 line.
Report blackbarn • March 16, 2023 6:23 PM GMT
Thanks Layemall - I did work that out and was over the moon that it was so lowLaughLaugh
Report layemall • March 16, 2023 6:28 PM GMT
and if I had taken note of my son's selection in the first... Stage Star, that he texted me this morning,and added it in instead of just putting Mighty Potter in on it's own,then I would have had it up for 20p.

Woulda coulda shouda I know, add to that Shishkin and it's just been one of those days!
Report layemall • March 16, 2023 6:32 PM GMT
Yeah it softens the blow a little Blackbarn Grin
Report unclepuncle • March 16, 2023 8:51 PM GMT
Had five legs up but went out in the Ryanair - had Janidil and French Dynamite.Cry
Report BoosterRooster • March 16, 2023 8:52 PM GMT
Interesting that the ‘Place6’ has paid more than the placepot everyday at Cheltenham so far.

Does anyone know any more about them? I see you can place bets on the 3 65 website from UK. Are they a worldwide operation? Do they have money bet into the pool from other countries too? Where does their liquidity come from?
Report longbridge • March 17, 2023 3:05 PM GMT
The Tote are being very slow updating the "live" Placepot webpage today, but I suspect the 1450 has knocked a lot of the tickets out and we are in for another big dividend.
Report unclepuncle • March 17, 2023 3:08 PM GMT
Still going - had the second in that last race.Grin
Report SlippyBlue • March 17, 2023 3:10 PM GMT
Paying £118.80 without the 5% top up.
Report Tattcorner • March 17, 2023 3:10 PM GMT
Think I kinda got out of jail. 
Had a £26.88 perm with Corbetts Cross as the Banker.  So put in a place lay of £28 @ 1.22 which got matched.
£26.60 profit on that...so lost 28p...do you think he would have placed, bar the jinking at the end?
Report Tattcorner • March 17, 2023 3:11 PM GMT
Good luck unclepuncle...rooting for you Happy
Report unclepuncle • March 17, 2023 3:51 PM GMT
Thanks Taft but afraid I went out in the Gold Cup - had Protektorat.Sad
Report Tattcorner • March 17, 2023 4:25 PM GMT
If Corbetts had made the frame, I'd have had 12p going onto the 4.10 where I had the second horse.  Then 1-3-7 in the 4.50...Plain
Report blackbarn • March 17, 2023 4:28 PM GMT
One line is £13.5k with one race to go. It is going to be big!
Report GLASGOWCALLING • March 17, 2023 4:32 PM GMT
Well done on getting Corbetts crossed matched at 1.22, I thought it was beat at the time, !  Thats why I dont bet i/r. Happy
Report barstool • March 17, 2023 4:40 PM GMT
Not showing how many tickets on each runner in last leg yet. Something to hide?
Report longbridge • March 17, 2023 4:43 PM GMT
It has been very slow all day (compared to the first three days of the Festival), so I suspect cockup rather than conspiracy.
Report GLASGOWCALLING • March 17, 2023 4:47 PM GMT
I am not for one minute saying there is any hanky panky whilst in running, my point is the Totes own tickets should NEVER be in the pool to begin with, if some are happy with that fair play to them, I will agree to differ.
Report BornToWin • March 17, 2023 4:49 PM GMT
1 minute til post of leg 6 and still nothing.
Report GLASGOWCALLING • March 17, 2023 4:54 PM GMT
Has anyone answered my question yet as to what happens if the Tote win it outright with one winning unit ??
Report the dealer • March 17, 2023 4:54 PM GMT
The issue with advertising guaranteed pools, to me that means they are adding money to the pool, not buying tickets into the pool.
Report GLASGOWCALLING • March 17, 2023 4:59 PM GMT
Not sure if that is right or not Tom with the wall of silence from the Tote, if that was the case why not just divide any Bonus the Tote wanted to add to the winners after the event has finished. ??
Report blackbarn • March 17, 2023 5:01 PM GMT
Glasgow, assuming the seeding claims are correct, presumably they will just declare the dividend (as won) and simply keep the money.
Report the dealer • March 17, 2023 5:03 PM GMT
Maybe it is just me, that was what I thought was happening GC.

Like you say though if they were transparent, we would all know
Report blackbarn • March 17, 2023 5:04 PM GMT
£23,673
Report the dealer • March 17, 2023 5:05 PM GMT
Fair play to anyone who managed to get it today
Report GLASGOWCALLING • March 17, 2023 5:06 PM GMT
At least Greg Wood has copped on..  just need a few more now. Tom they are called wagers by their own words.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2022/mar/01/talking-horses-horse-racing-th...
Report GLASGOWCALLING • March 17, 2023 5:08 PM GMT
Whether the payout is 23k or £2-30p it is still a shame that they cant be happy with the 27% alone, had to get even more greedy ... Shame.
Report the dealer • March 17, 2023 5:15 PM GMT
Yes 27% free money from those pools not exactly small change.
Report blackbarn • March 17, 2023 5:15 PM GMT
There is delay getting the latest info from Tote. It is being worked on and details will be updated as soon as possible.

They've copped the lotCool
Report Macintoshmatty • March 17, 2023 5:18 PM GMT
For the record Collosus paid less at £15384. Guess thats where the biger pool come into its own, trouble is how often does that happen?
Report GLASGOWCALLING • March 17, 2023 5:37 PM GMT
The Tote accepted at the outset that situations might arise in which it would effectively “win” money from its customers, while also saying that its ideal scenario would be “to come out neutral in the long term”. Imagine, for instance, that a once-a-year punter finds an outrageous Tricast because three rank outsiders remind them of their husband, their daughter and the next-door neighbour’s dog. A potentially life-changing payout awaits … unless the PGS managed to find it too and reduce the dividend accordingly.
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