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He'd been reluctant to load, ace, and then he was a bit sluggish away anyway from the gate. I might give him a second look when the headgear goes back on.
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Yep,there’s a few in the tracker George.
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Day 199
Canaria Queen, 1pt EW @ 25-1, 5.00 Southwell (4 PLACES) I'm going to give another chance to Canaria Queen. There didn't appear any fluke about it when she defeated the long odds-on Sacred Falls in a novice at Musselburgh (5f, g-s) in September, and that filly has since won and run well in defeat in handicap company. Of Canaria Queen's two runs since, she didn't face an easy task at Ripon in an 0-81, and when I selected her last time over C/D, she was returning from a 55-day break and might have finished closer but for finding trouble around 2f out and losing her position from just in behind the pace. Hopefully that run has sharpened her up, and while her highest draw is a concern, particularly given how the competitve 5f race here on Tuesday panned out, a 3lb drop in the ratings will help, and David Allan, who was aboard for her Musselburgh success, takes over again in the plate. |
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GL George, if this one wins today's AW nap comp will be over after race one!
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Sadly, cobs101, it wasn't to be on this occasion.
It's starting to look like I'll still be on with this one next Christmas. Running P/L: +70.71 |
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A couple running tonight at Dundalk which I selected last Friday - Master Garvey and Dontspoilasale.
I was going to give Master Garvey another chance at the 33-1 he was in the RP forecast, so you can imagine my disappointment when the reality was a top-priced 11-2. So passed on that one. Dontspoilasale reopposes the bang-in-form Inishmot Prince, but they've both taken a hit from the handicapper for pulling clear last week. This is over an extra furlong but it shouldn't be an issue for either of them if their higher ratings doesn't stop them. |
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Day 200
Rhythmic Intent, 1pt EW @ 9-1, 1.20 Newcastle (4 PLACES) Rhythmic Intent hasn't won for over two years and is fast approaching his eighth birthday, but he's by a sire who gets plenty of winners on Tapeta and it was interesting that on his latest run over 14f at Wolverhampton, on what was just his second AW start, he came in for late market support, but unfortunately for his backers, he wasn't well positioned in rear but did catch the eye running on well in the closing stages into 6th place. He's been weak in the betting this morning ahead of this drop back in trip to 12.5f, and it remains to be seen how this pans out for him from stall 11, but he drops from a class 2 into a class 3, and while he isn't going to be getting any better at his age, he is unexposed on the surface. Miriamne, 1pt EW @ 18-1, 3.44 Newcastle (4 PLACES) It looked a good effort from Miriamne when last seen 70 days ago over 5f at Wolverhampton, when always on a disputed pace before giving way to a more patiently-ridden George Boughey-trained handicap debutant, who has since followed up under a penalty in a novice and is now rated 15lb higher. Miriamne has since moved to an up-and-coming yard and undergone wind surgery. She does have to prove her stamina for this stiff 6f but presumably will be ridden with more restraint this time, and promising 7lb claimer Tommie Jakes takes the ride, who is 6-11 at the course (55%, +£71.33). Private Bryan, 1pt EW @ 28-1, 5.00 Wolverhampton (4 PLACES) Private Bryan is pretty limited and he doesn't help himself by being a hard-puller, but despite this, he did enough two starts back at Chelmsford (10f) when finishing second, with Cryptos Dream behind him in third, to suggest there may be a handicap in him if running his race more efficiently. He has since disappointed at Southwell (11f) having had another inefficent trip (raced wide, rushed up to lead before halfway). Private Bryan drops back in trip to 9.5f and Callum Shephard takes over from a 7lb claimer, so he's given a speculative vote in the hope he can get into a better rhythm with a fresh pair of hands doing the steering. Storymaker, 1pt EW @ 9-1, 8.30 Wolverhampton (4 PLACES) I'm going to give another chance to Storymaker, who probably did a bit too much from a wide draw over a furlong further trip here in October when I selected her. She's since been in good form over 7f / a mile, when not always having the best of luck in the run. She's been weak in the betting this morning for whatever reason, but she's got a low draw to work from on this occasion, and is another being ridden by Callum Shephard for the first time. |
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WD,George...with all the attention focussed on Acey we're all forgetting who the REAL forum top tipster is!
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Wd George Private Bryan was squashed at the start ![]() |
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Cheers lead on and Virgin, as Malcolm Tomlinson might say, that was desperate!
lead on, I'm not sure I've ever put a winner up at the 5-day stage, so fair play to acey. Virgin, I'd envisaged Private Bryan blasting off in front and then it just being a case of whether or not he could on, but no, as you say, squashed at the start and then never in it. A big run from Rhythmic Intent who pulled clear with the two unexposed 3YOs, but unfortunately for his backers, one of them reeled him in. Running P/L: +78.31 |
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Well done George, brilliant profit..
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Cheers Billy, good luck today.
Day 201 Zephlyn, 1pt EW @ 22-1, 6.00 Wolverhampton (4 PLACES) Zephlyn is still a maiden after 13 starts, but he hasn't had many chances on the AW and one of his beter efforts came over two miles at Newcastle in March when he was second to Kiss My Face, who was completing the second leg of four consecutive wins, with Rock Chant behind him in third, who was chasing a hat-trick of wins and would win again on his next start. Zephlyn was returning from 139-days off when not shaping too badly at Southwell over 14f recently, when never too far away before leading up the straight until over a furlong out and then fading out of the places, perhaps the run being needed. The obvious concern this evening is the drop back to 12f on a sharper track, but hopefully that recent comeback has sharpened him up, and he's handily drawn here to take up a prominent position. Gunfighter, 1pt EW @ 7-1, 7.00 Wolverhampton Gunfighter created a good impression on his AW debut at Newcastle (6f) in September, when always travelling well before leading over a furlong out and then finding plenty as he pulled clear with the second, to win in a good time. It's possible soft ground was against him on his next start at Windsor, and he didn't shape too badly here last-time-out over 6f when not beaten far into 5th place (with Bazball just ahead of him in 4th). This step up to 7f promises to suit given the stamina in his pedigree and how well he stayed on at Newcastle, so hopefully he can give a good account if this pans out okay from his inside stall. |
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Well done George, two good selections deserved a winner.
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More good shooting G, Top Class
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Cheers Brian.
The drop in trip to 12f was a concern for Zephlyn, given he seems to stay the stretch-two miles round Newcastle, so while Mullen did the right thing in sending the horse to the front 5f out, he still allowed it to turn into a sprint off the home bend in a race that was nearly 8 seconds outside standard. He got a "weakened" comment in the RP form, but he ran through the line, he just didn't have the gears to get away from them. That said, a 13-race, 46-rated maiden, so maybe not one to be making excuses for. 10p Rule 4. Running P/L: +84.19 |
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Thanks Billy, and well done with your winner too.
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Cheers Virgin. Good luck today.
Banana, 1pt EW @ 18-1, 6.30 Wolverhampton (4 PLACES) Banana probably ran better than her finishing position suggested over C/D nine days ago, on what was her third run back following a year's absence, considering she took a keen hold from her widest draw and was obliged to race three-wide in a prominent position, in a race where the winner had a ground-saving trip around the inner, but she was still in contention for a place before weakening inside the final furlong. She has to race from out of the handicap on this occasion but this is a slightly lower grade than last time, with Kieran O'Neill taking over from a 5lb claimer in the saddle, and a lower draw to help. |
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GL George, had Banana 2nd in but went for Kitbag in the end in the AW comp...
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Good luck cobs101. It looked a good run over C/D back in March from Kitbag, when he fared best of the prominent racers in a race where the other principals came from off the pace. This will be his first run back here since, with a first-time visor on, let's hope they don't end up taking each other on for the lead!
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Well done cobs101.
Banana was away well but the jockey opted to ease back to get some cover, and then she kept on into 5th, not beaten far, but the 4th horse finished off that bit better. Running P/L: +82.19 |
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Thanks George, not a fan when they take them back like that on the AW after a good start. Finished quite well though so I would think he will pick one of these races up in due course.
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Yes, agree, cobs101, and sometimes with these basement grade horses, I think they while they have nothing in the way of a change of gear, they will keep going, so maybe reining her back wasn't the wisest move. Good luck today.
Day 202 Polar Princess, 1pt EW @ 11-1, 5.45 Southwell (4 PLACES) Polar Princess didn't last long with the Gosden yard but she showed enough to suggest there should be a win in her at a modest level, particularly at Kempton (12f) in May, when although finishing only 4th of the 6 runners and beaten 15L, she shaped like the second best horse in the race having tried to go with a useful Roger Varian-trained filly from some way out and been a clear second at one point before losing two places in the closing stages. The second horse home was the Sir Michael Stoute-trained Wodhooh, was has since been a Listed winner over hurdles for Gordon Elliott, while the fifth My Chiquita, has been a winner subsequently on the Flat and over hurdles. Her first two runs for Philip Kirby weren't great, but there was more encouragement last-time-out at Wolverhampton (12f) in a higher grade when she wasn't helped by having to try and challenge around the outer but did keep on to be beaten just over 5L. She's now 8lb below her initial mark and hopefully this drop in grade can help. Franco Grasso, 1pt EW @ 35-1, 6.15 Southwell (4 PLACES) Franco Grasso probably ran better than his finishing position suggested on his stable debut at this course over 12f in April, when he might have done a bit too much on the front-end but was still close-up into the final furlong before weakening, on what was his first run for over two months. He then won his next start at Yarmouth (11.5f, good). He's been very disappointing in three starts since, including last-time-out at Newcastle when returning from 5-months off, so it takes a leap of faith to support him back from another short break, particularly in a race where those at the head of the market can have strong cases made for them, but I'm going to have a speculative pick on him at the prices as that previous course run suggested that he could go well round here when things pan out more favourably. |
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Polar Princess (18-1 SP) kept on from off the pace to just nick third place, though was never a threat to the gambled on winner.
Franco Grasso was friendless in the betting at 50-1 on his return from a 6-week break, but it looked like he was going to run on into a place when he started making headway from 2f out, however, he didn't quite get there and had to settle for 5th. Running P/L: +82.69 |
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Liv Lucky, 1pt EW @ 15-2, 5.55 Southwell (4 PLACES)
Liv Lucky only managed to win once in 21 starts for the Johnston yard, but she ran well enough on her return from over seven-months off last month at Wolverhampton (7f) to suggest that her current yard may be able to win with her, particularly as it looked an effort that wanted marking up considering she did a lot of running from a wide draw in a contest where the other principals came from off the pace. Liv Lucky has since disappointed over the same C/D, but she might have done too much too soon from another wide draw. There is a query as to whether this course suits as well having finished unplaced in five previous attempts here, but she ran okay in a couple of starts here for her previous yard, and she might have needed the three runs here for her current one. Lewis Edmunds, who was aboard for that penultimate start is back in the plate, she has a better draw this time, while a first-time tongue-tie may also be of benefit. Dynamic Force, 1pt EW @ 5-1, 6.15 Wolverhampton Dynamic Force has been gradually improving his RPRs in four starts since rejoining Robert Cowell following a spell in Bahrain, and it looked a particularly good effort on the latest of them at Chelmsford fifteen days ago, when pulling away with a bang-in-form rival who was completing a hat-trick. The first-time cheekpieces he wore that day are retained, with Jack Mitchell, who was aboard him for the first time, keeping the ride, so hopefully he can go well again here if transferring that form to this course. He's off a 3lb higher mark but was rated higher as a juvenile. O G Beachwear, 1pt EW @ 8-1, 7.15 Wolverhampton (4 PLACES) O G Beachwear was having just her second AW start when finishing third over C/D last month, when perhaps her effort wanted marking up based on how the race panned out. The fifth has won since, while the second and fourth ran well next-time-out to both finish runner-up. O G Beachwear has been dropped a pound and this is a lower grade than last time, while she has a potentially nice draw in five to work from, so hopefully she can give a good account if backing up that latest effort. |
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Churning them out GB
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Cheers Virgin & Mad', but unfortunately a small loss on the day despite two of them making the frame. It's a tough game innit
5p Rule 4 for the 7.15.Dynamic Force was quite weak in the betting, had the snowflake symbol next to his name, and was disappointing, fading out of it inside the final furlong. Running P/L: +81.79 |
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* Running P/L: +81.71
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Day 204
Where's Tom, 1pt EW @ 7-1, 3.10 Lingfield (4 PLACES) Where's Tom is approaching his ninth birthday but has only won the once on the Flat in his career, however, there have been a number of creditable runs in defeat this year which would give each-way claims in this, including when finishing 4th of 12 last month in a slightly higher grade over C/D, on his return from a 140-day break. It's a slight concern that he may ideally want further these days but the reapplied visor (0-3-5) may help sharpen him up. |
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GL, George.
Ok, I've done some sums... £1 Place @ BSP: +£34.57 £1 Win @ BSP: -£24.28 |
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Btw, just to be clear, the place figure is at standard place terms, NOT 4 TBP etc where George has selected in a race with an extra place. ie a 4th in a 14-runner race is always a loser.
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Thanks 'nick, the spreadsheet is showing +14 at Betfair SP after 2% commission, with place bets settled at standard bets.
But de master has spoken: "If you'd backed every horse in GB handicaps with 14 or more runners over the last 5 years you'd have made a loss of over 4,000 points at SP - and a profit of over 80 points at BFSP! BFSP can randomly turn moderate tipsters into apparently good ones. It's no guide at all." |
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Where's Tom? Like all my best 4TP bets...In 5th place.
Running P/L: +79.71 |
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If you backed every horse in a GB Handicap this last five years, aged 3 to 7 that hadnt won in the last 12 months then you would have lost 2438 points at Industry SP but be 1856 points better off at Bfsp, but of course at a strike rate of just 3.42%, its impractical (longest losing run 137).
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Priced 11/1 and upwards I should have added.
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Losing run of 137, what was the biggest price.. |
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The biggest price this year was when Endofastorm won at Newcastle at 125/1 which paid 276.83 at Bfsp.
Its not just the losing runs though Billy, its the losing sequences, the losing run of say 90 may be preceded by a losing run of 60 and followed by another losing run of 60, its just not practical. Your ROI though is quite healthy at over 17%. If you extend tyhe sequence to cover the last 16 years though the ROI is just 5.7% and there are several losing years and the longest losing run then extends to a whopping 211. |
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Day 205
Starsong, 1pt EW @ 14-1, 12.24 Lingfield I'm going to take a chance on Starsong at the prices despite a concern over whether she's as effective at today's 7f as she is at 6f. She's a pound below the mark she won off at Chelmsford in February, and she's run well a few times in defeat since off similar marks, including three starts back at Wolverhamtpn (6f) when she was just narrowly denied by two noses in a race from which the winner, second, fourth and fifth have won subsequently. Starsong also has to prove herself at this course but if she's going to get the trip anywhere it will be here, and Billy Loughnane rides her for the first time. Society Lion, 1pt EW @ 11-1, 2.24 Lingfield (4 PLACES) Society Lion has only run over 6f five times on the AW, and he has one notable piece form from last season at this trip when off a 2lb lower mark than today's, he defeated Badri, who was subsequently a big improver. The selection has generally been in decent form this year with a couple of wins on turf, and he might have needed a couple of runs back on the AW following a 74-day break, including last time at Wolverhampton, when he wasn't disgraced having been caught wide from 3f out. His previous Polytrack runs have come at Chelmsford, so he does have to prove his effectiveness here, but no bad thing to have Hollie Doyle back on board given her record of 2-5 on him, which included that aforementioned Wolverhampton success. |
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Thanks Tiger Tiger, crikey..
Good luck George and well done on your fantastic thread, well.. not so much in the 2-24. I think Miss Moonshine might run a good race. It's brilliant making a profit at your prices, I am more at home with 6/4 to 6/1 shots. Each to his own as they say.. |