going to steal his motorbike in the garage.

It said that a jury found him guilty..
I've done jury service twice and although the judge gives you directions, I'd like to think that enough of the jury members would say I'm not convicting him..May have been hung jury and possibly retrial at worse

I've only just calmed down enough to comment after an almost identical situation, i would of been in prison for an awful lot longer as the boys were on foot when they took of from my house, i missed one of the lads by inches in my car he jumped over some concrete bollards at the end of my road, the red mist that came over me that night was all encompassing, i had lost a parent the day before and i was in emotional turmoil, my kids and wife were so upset that night i wanted blood, even now makes the hairs on my arms stand on end talking about it.

You just cant think rationally in this situation, even the most levelled headed person put in this position would do the same once your family is in jeopardy, pure feral scum who will have a criminal history as long as your arm, and keep getting suspended sentences or community service.

.but,you cant dish out punishment officially..very lucky he wasnt on a murder charge tbh.

Correct rico but I wish he was a and hed've gotta away with a double manslaughter with 2 scrotes off the streets for not a lot less.

very lucky he wasnt on a murder charge tbh

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think you will find it would have been an 'involuntary manslaughter' charge Mr.Hunt...

big difference.

the word 'intentionally' would be the sticking point in your argument Mr.Hunt...

how could anyone PROVE he did it intentionally ?

good luck with that argument.

chasing a motorbike over a distance at high speed then steering toward them if caught on cctv would been deemed as dangerous and done intentionally.

there is no argument he drove dangerously.. if cctv showed he knocked them off intentionally and ended up dragging one under his car and killing either of them im merely saying 'it' so easily could have ended up a murder scenario.

Mr White was actually charged for causing injury by dangerous driving, if they had been killed i'm pretty certain that the CPS would have charged him with causing death by dangerous driving and would most likely be facing a manslaughter charge with probably a 5/10 year sentence. Don't think he could be charged with murder as would have to prove intent which would be very difficult to prove.
An ex neighbour of mine got 5 years imprisonment for causing death by dangerous driving when a drunken women fell backwards of the pavement right in front of his speeding car, 50 in a 30 limit, went right over top of car, he drove off in a panic and later drove to police station after getting his wife to say she was driving because he had drink or drugs in his system, police soon found out the truth.
   He quickly went into an open prison and was home most weekends after about 6 months, also had the conjigal rights visits in prison, i was working 6 days a week in my business and he was home more than me!
   This chap actually got sentenced to 22 months but did from Feb to Sept when released so 7 months in the clink.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/apr/06/man-jailed-for-30-years-for-using-car-as-weapon


Mr.Hunt getting all carried away with this murder nonsense...its there in black and white..i'll reiterate..if he had deliberately steered his vehicle off its intended line and rammed them intentionally and it was caught on cctv he'd be on a murder charge.

iyo did he collide with then accidentally or deliberatey?

prosecution lawyer to the jury...

'do you think Mr.Hunt deliberately hit them ?'...

jury says after discussing it for 5 minutes 'well we have no proof but we think he probably did'...

right that's 30 years for murder...

dear oh dear Mr.Hunt...

you've backed yourself in to a very dark corner here...

lets go back 10 posts to the facts what i said...

'IF' there was cctv and they died it would have been a murder charge.

if the portuguese police 'had' been allowed to do their jobs without political intervention the mccanns would have been in jail..alas no!

sometimes ewe can be lucky.

i see you have moved on to THE MCCANS now Mr.Hunt...

you clearly don't understand that not every time someone kills someone it is MURDER...

that's fine...

i tried my best to convince you but you know best.

Rico is right Hibby,just came down to the CPS basically doing the chap a favour imo.Had one of the scrotes died it would most likely have been a charge of murder and down to a jury to decide whether intent to cause bodily harm,no need to prove intent to kill.hth

The point is they could have Hibby and makes no difference his intent on leaving his house,he had plenty of time to form the intent therafter!!

You have obviously never charged or prosecuted anyone Hibby so give up while you are only slightly behind,Rico is right you are wrong!!!

It's all pointless anyway.

The government has just announced we have nearly run out of prison places, partly because there are so many held on remand because it can take two years for cases to come to trial, by which time half the witnesses have moved and the other half have forgotten what they saw. (Maybe this was a factor in @the dealer's police accepting a plea in his daughter's case on the first page of this thread.)

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-63809206

that's fine Cagliari...

i should have known someone like Mr Hunt would know his way around the rule of law book...

he got lucky by saying 'he was lucky he wasn't charged with murder' but fair enough...

just as a matter of interest...

the bloke who careered his bin lorry in to the public on the streets of Glasgow...

what happened to him Cagliari ?

he walked away scot free didn't he ?