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Dettori cost his backers money and connections of the filly a fortune at stud. Gosden is no mug and will be privately seething.
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What a surprise. A criticism free zone for Frankie on Luck On Sunday (with Persad). The train are so predictable.
What on earth was Mangan talking about? Does she think viewers are blind? The race winning move was Moore conmmitting his filly first. Anyone should be able to see that. |
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Yes regardless of the slip at the start, Emily Upjohn wins comfortably if Dettori doesn't showboat for a furlong and allow Moore first run. It was a terrible ride as was his ride in the derby.
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I think Dettori thought Emily Upjohn would still win when cruised up next to the rail but did not envisage Tuesday would find extra just before the line; Tuesday had her head where it mattered...on the line.
Redemption in the Ribblesdale Stakes? That's where the money is indicating she'll run next despite Gosden was rumoured to say end of July before she'd reappear on a racecourse. A red herring for the benefit of bookies esp with an option for the Irish Oaks on 16th July |
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Camera angles were misleading. Tuesday never got first run on EJ. It was confirmed that EJ was around 2 lengths in front of Tuesday when Frankie said go
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I saw that camera angle Simon. From head on it looks like Tuesday clearly is in front yet from rear on it is the other way around with EU clearly in front. Which camera angle is most likely to be correct?
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https://youtu.be/Bse556g7vAA?t=145
if you watch this it appears that Emily is clearly in front maybe by a length |
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Going back in time i mentioned on another thread that Emily was never in front of Tuesday (except a bob before the finishing line) but having seen the You-Tube link A_T has posted, i was clearly wrong. Apologies.
Mind you in a re-match, i know which one i want to be on, although i can't see this occurring in the near term unless Tuesday goes for the KG VI/Queen Elizabeth stakes. |
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Has anyone a copy of the race in the home straight from behind the horses where it is very clear?
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Emily Upjohn was 1L in front around 2 1/2F out.
Tuesday put daylight between the 2 not long after. It took Moore longer to pull her up than Emily Upjohn. She was only 3 yrs old on the day,I would'nt be so sure the Gosden filly will beat her if they meet again. |
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it's possible 12f is a stretch for EU - she was coasting 3f out but Moore was already pushing and Tuesday got home better
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If they did ever meet again i'd be far more interested what else was in the race than just guessing between those two
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at the risk of being obsessive a screenshot here
https://i.imgur.com/4umIqSv.png |
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Thank you A_T. That isn't obsessive, it proves the point. I don't know if you have seen the film from behind where it looks clearly more than that. It is a pity it isn't available.
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ITV opening show had an overhead camera. will be on catch up
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Thank you NH. I had deleted it. About 52 minutes into the programme it clearly shows, overhead, EU ahead of Tuesday.
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The thing about the YT link showing EU in front, when it switches to head Tues is gone, clearing away.
Clearly there is about at least 6 poss more missing seconds. Which as I sayed earlier,Trainer sayed I am told he got there in two strides, but haven't seen the race! Because that's exactly what that footage shows. Odd imo. Anyway, Tues wonned, get over it, Fwanki been watching all the old Lester footage imo and thort he might show ya all. I would loved to have heard his old man's post race phone call. Really enjoyed watching the documentary on FD, worth a watch. |