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F hell how has he got that beat
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? really?
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Too relaxed
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I wonder did he not see Tuesday until it was too late
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kept her too far back off a very slow pace
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cracking ride after the start,the bob beat her.
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Reminded me of Dancing Brave..maybe thats what he was thinking too
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Pity they did not put Cauthen on it would have pi55ed it
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or Pat
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Been out of the limelight this season. Big chance to get back in and that happens.
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Wottack Hunt. And no, I didn't back Emily. Just saying.....
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the difference between a great ride and a terrible ride in the bob of a head.
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Thought he had it , stopped whipping it , got it wrong.
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Frankie thought it should have won no f shi7 sherlock
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was too far back - end of
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Slipped at the start. what he do wrong? pocket talkers out in force!
Best horse lost not frankie's fault. |
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winners a nice horse, might have been headed & battled back ...
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It was a very unfortunate run, I done my dough but that's the way it goes sometimes.
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more to the point, how on earth has the bore that is Moore managed to win on that.? Would make the second 1/4 to beat the winner if they meet again
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yes she slipped but the pace was very slow and he should have been able to judge that - kept her too far back and lost in the sprint. race was 1.5 secs slower than the coronation cup
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No bet in the race , Frankie definitely thought he was getting up the last 50 yards , that was his his mistake , if he could ride it again he would have given a bit more effort !
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Backed Emily should have been odds on and showed why. Never mind about the jockey missed the start in a Classic. Looked down LMFAO! Early excuses in.
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and what is going on with the track that they are coming up the stands side? this needs looking at
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Looked down then finished like a fkin torpedo
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Early excuses in.
if he wanted to get it beat that was a pretty good way to do it, beaten on the nod. guy must be a magician. |
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Jinxy - I think that's a fair observation (thinking it was in the bag) - maybe he
was 'nursing' her home, thinking she might've done herself some damage at the start. |
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Early excuses as in ‘i fked up hope nobody noticed’ not ‘i dont want to win in a Classic because multimillionaires want to pull horses’ for those without a brain cell
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just a very unlucky loser. Could give the winner a stone in a hcap.
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yes she slipped but the pace was very slow and he should have been able to judge that - kept her too far back and lost in the sprint. race was 1.5 secs slower than the coronation cup
You think a horse that misses the start in a classic by several lengths should be rushed up around the field due to a modest pace? Totally absurd, he could do nothing else but accept the hand that was dealt, and literally only lost out on the nod. As others have alluded to it's rank bad luck, a) to slip at the start, b) a slow pace c) lose a literal 50/50 nod. |
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Where is the evidence of him slipping did they replay it? I must have missed that.
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"he should have been able to judge that"
He judged it very well...he got there in time but just didn't go past  It did look game-over and as someone else stated, to hit only a low of 1.34 is very peculiar...I checked on that and expected 1.03 or even lower! |
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Always find reading these threads hilarious
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eric_morris didn't actually watch the race. But thinks it's worth giving his view.
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didnt slip - stumbled
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Was virtually upsides Tuesday coming down the hill and was in perfect position 3f out, nearest the favoured stands rail and made up ground very smoothly, and I expected him to storm clear and win 3l+. However Tuesdays pace (placed in two Guineas) enabled Ryan Moore to pinch a lead. Frankie got level, maybe even ahead, but lost on the bob.
He was highest up the slope, whereas Tuesday challenged nearest far rail, so arguably Frankie had the better ground and so I don’t think the start cost him the race the way some are suggesting. |
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yes it turned into a sprint in a slow race - the stumble probably made dettori too cautious without that might have been nearer the front when the sprint started
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FD doesn't usually drop them out, never mind a key race. Circumstances conspired against him. I backed it but he rode a fine race, and was unlucky to be beaten by a strong competitor. On the flip side she settled pretty well, which was far from certain, that allowed him to get so close.
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Yeah absolutely right
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Dettori thought he would win from 2f out and was too slow to notice Ryan Moore to his far left who got first run on him. I've seen too many times where he wants to win cosily/cheekily and it was only a matter of time where this mentality would lead to his downfall. The connections of the second must be gutted. The beloved King of Kings Lester Piggott would never have made such an elementary mistake. IMO it's akin to the ride Greville Starkey gave to Dancing Brave to get him beat in the 1986 Derby, where the horse was capable but the jockey incompetent.
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Obviously didn't help what happened at the start, but position-wise relative to Tuesday, soon nicely enough placed, though with the rail being out he's ended up covering more ground by coming wide which probably wasn't negated by a quicker strip of ground on the outer.
In hindsight, Dettori might regret sitting chilly for as long as he did, but he was on a filly who had prove her stamina to prove. Undoubtedly unlucky, and you don't need to be a paddock expert to recognise her physical scope when alongside Tuesday. |