Keeping Score

B, not easy to put up selections early,many a betting move happens just before off of race.gl

I have put up plenty hours before they run t over the years but you are correct, I will leave them now until just before the off. I will only back the steady in the market ones as well, I will miss out on The Drifters but looking at my results I will also save an awful lot of losers.
I am away on my first cruise tomorrow if I go missing in the next week or so..

Hope you enjoy the Mersey ferry BL

  I am not a good sailor mh, all the years following Liverpool I was always sick as a dog on the boat to France etc. Even the Isle of Man.
I remember once we got a load of Double Diamond on the table and all of us were sick apart from one lad who got stuck in by himself..

A few might crop up today..

Brighton 15:20  Caramelised 11/4  bog

8pts loss

Brighton 3-50 Bbob Alula  9/4 BOG

10pts loss

Last bet, then time for a holiday

Nottingham 4-00 Hiya Maite  9/4

12pts loss..

Back on land..

Tramore 20:00  Swelltime  5/2 BOG  2pts

I had a Swelltime on The Love Boat but another second..

14pts loss

Southwell 5-03 Scale Force  8/1 BOG

POSITIVES

All FOUR wins over this 5f
Last Win was in a Wolverhampton Class 3 off 74, now 55
Not too far behind MARWARI (Up 5lbs) and THE TRON (Up 4lbs) 16 days ago when slowly away.
Daniel Muscutt replaces 5lb claimer
First time tongue strap
Ran well here in Feb when not beaten far by 4/9f
Nicely fits into the betting at 8/1 in this 4/1 The Field race..
Decent draw and would be lowest winning mark coming into form..

Gl with Scale Force,as u mentioned slow away last out and stronger jockey now rides
My selection Ustath,has form, these 5f at Southwell are difficult
Ditching the two for me

ANOTHER POSITIVE

Today's trainer and jockey combo have already came good today with the in-form Jockey Daniel Muscutt taking his winning tally to four with two seconds and a third from his last seven rides..

Good luck t

16pts loss..

Catterick 16:55  Golden Gal  9/2  BOG

Windsor 18:50  Treacherous  3/1  BOG

Roscommon 19:30  Heavenly Power  4/1 BOG

Bangor-on-Dee 20:15  Malina Ocarina  9/2  BOG

Gl Billy
Rajmeister 2.30 Lingfield 4 me

Good luck t

POSITIVES

GOLDEN GAL


Won over this CD very cosily on Soft going 14 days ago and she's also effective on a faster surface.

Career best last time but has gone very close only beaten a neck over this CD on today's Good to Firm ground..

Has gone close and won last time from a high draw and High 10 today..

Harry Russell who was the winning jockey last time has only one ride today....

TREACHEROUS

Gets into this off top weight after a good looking run in a 40k Class 2 here latest, drops to Class 4 today.

After two years in The Doldrums and last win in The Consolation Race For The Stewards' Cup this 5f might be
just what is needed in a strongly run race from 5lbs less than that Sunny day in August 2020..

Clear in the betting at 7/2 with the two next best both 6/1 and paper 2f now out to 15/2 from 7/2

One of those horses who hardly seems to drop in the weights and was still above last win in May nearly two years after last win..

Has the best speed figures but will need every inch of this 5f and 21y and won't want to give them too much of a start but with 11 wins from 51 starts over 7f and 6f his stamina will come into play against lower league opponents...

Good job the other two are non runners..

20pts loss..

Having an awful time lately with my betting all over the place, the Method that I know works for me long term has been abandoned since I went to do the job in Cheltenham.
I have a large bank and bet accordingly and losing spells and going off the rails is part of life..

Still sticking to 2pts win..

Hamilton 2-15 Zealous  13/2  BOG

Hamilton 5-20 Lochnaver  15/2
Hamilton 5-20 Cavendish  9/1  BOG

Chelmsford City 8-05 Magical Dragon  9/1  BOG

Wolverhampton 8-55 Makambe 16/1

Pre Cheltenham Extension Method

Hamilton 3-45 Melody King  5/2  BOG

16/1 2nd

28pts loss

No singles today, been up the shops and put on a £5 Liverpool RTC/DOS



Wolverhampton 2-15 Miss Blennerhasset  11/8 

Wolverhampton 4-35 Thunder Flash  10/11 

Worcester 5-00 Chess Player  1/1

If I'd backed Baaeed today he would of fell over..

Stratford 3-15 Encashment  15/2

Chepstow 3-25 Eye Of The Water  10/1
Chepstow 3-25   Lilandra  10/1

Chepstow 4-35 Glamorous Force  12/1

Killarney 7-05 Away To Sea  11/1

I think EW is The Only Way from now on at these prices. Watch The Winners fly in..

Encashment  15/2  3rd

Eye Of The Water  10/1  2nd
Lilandra  10/1


Glamorous Force  12/1  3rd

Away To Sea  11/1  2nd

Close but no cigar BL
Too much sun ?

What happened to the 4/1 limit ?

38pts loss

Gone to pot mh, I am all over the place at the moment but will get back on track sooner or later.

Just talking about too much sun, I have had too much food, Fosters, John Smiths and bacardi on the cruise.

There was a 70's disco most nights in the casino, Miss New Brighton 1977 loves dancing but even though I love 70's disco and soul I am no dancer. Six of us went so the girls danced around their handbags while the lads kept on bevvying..

I am seeing long term what comes out best..

1pt EW

Carlisle 2-05 Blazing Hot  1pt ew 4 places 11/1

Killarney 4-40 Rich Belief   1pt ew 4 places  17/2

Killarney 18:55  Presenting Cody  1pt ew 5 places 10/1


2pts Win

Carlisle 2-05 Blazing Hot  2pts win 11/1

Killarney 4-40 Rich Belief  2pts 17/2

Killarney 6-55 Presenting Cody  2pts win 11/1 BOG

After a 18/1 2nd the bets went down the pan again.

Going to Draw a line under these for my own sake because I am all over the place at the moment and I going back to my Pre Cheltenham Extension Selections. No bets most days but hopefully steady profit, sticking to them mh

2/1 - 5/1 1pt wins

PCES Selections

Being strict , none today..

Best policy Billy,stick to 2/1 - 5/1 in handicaps and try the longer prices in non handicaps,gl

Chepstow 4-40 Musical Mystery  5/2  BOG

William Buick climbs aboard Ali Stronge's 3yr old for the first time and I am hoping he then enters the winners enclosure about ten minutes later with the beaming owners Bishop and Kirkland either side leading the son of Showcasing in.

Still 0-7 but he has shown steady progress since May after having his wedding tackle removed in the autumn and his turn looks hopefully near having finished second in 6f handicaps the last twice with the latest at Leicester behind Dora Penny who was on the second leg of a four-timer and is now 12lbs higher.

Musical Mystery  5/2  Unp

No Bet Today..

Found an old System from 20yrs ago in a book in the loft, I used to back them in a Stanley Bookies in Kirkby and it got so good I was boxing off the staff on a daily basis. I should of spread my bets around but probably out of superstition and naivety and also being on a high with winning most days I kept going back to the same bookies.

After only probably about two months I went in one day and there was a middle aged woman who I found out later was the area manager who came up to me and nervously said " Can you put your bets on somewhere else please, you can't bet here anymore" Since then Bookies have tightened up The Prices, I will put them up for Fun to see how they go.

Catterick 1-00 Delirious Dream   2003  7/4   Today  11/10

Catterick 3-30 Midnight Moll            2003  Ev    Today   2/5

Bellewstown 4-40 Smile Of Love          2003   7/4  Today    Ev


Here is the start of Dec 2003

5th Boardroom Dancer  Won 6/4
5th Intensity  Won 4/1
6th Oracle Des Mottes Won 13/8
6th Supreme Prince Won 13/8
6th Our Armageddon Won 6/4
6th El Hombre  Lost 4/1
6th Dark Vocation  Lost 4/1

Went on to be 27 bets with 18 winning..   Happy Days..

Some old favourites from back then..

12th Dec  Samby  Won 9/4
13th Dec  Bosham Mill Lost 11/8
19th Dec  Keltic Bard Lost  11/10
26th Dec  The Nomad Lost 6/4
26th Dec Barton Hill Won 7/4
27th Dec King Revo  Won 5/2
23rd Jan Silver Birch Won 11/8


Looking at the results I had five losers in Feb on the run and it looks like I ended it not looking at the bigger picture and by then putting too much on with no Bank..

GL BL

Small sample
Big hit with run of five
Looks like mdns and novices which can be volatile

I started off with tenners but in no time was putting a hundred on and I remember having a drawer full of money, the time of year was over the jumps and hurdles with no AW in those days. I remember going to Aintree on a Friday night and putting a hundred on one that fell and then two more losers on the Saturday .
I still see the women from the shop and we laugh about it, she shouted any tips in Morrisons the other week..

Good start..

I have the results for November 2003 to February 2004 which looks great overall but when five lost in two days it probably wiped me out putting too much on and confidence went..

Catterick 1-00 Delirious Dream   2003  7/4   Today  11/10        WON 5/6

Catterick 3-30 Midnight Moll            2003  Ev    Today   2/5     NR

Bellewstown 4-40 Smile Of Love          2003   7/4  Today    Ev     WON 4/6

Good start BL

Nice and easy this time
Build the bank

Thanks mh, only one today just for fun.

Catterick 1-00 Delirious Dream   2003  7/4   Today  11/10        WON 5/6

Catterick 3-30 Midnight Moll            2003  Ev    Today   2/5     NR

Bellewstown 4-40 Smile Of Love          2003   7/4  Today    Ev     WON 4/6

Ffos Las 3-28 Jahoori                   2003   6/4  Today    10/11

Jahoori

Thanks mh, t Just like 2003 all over again.. I thought I found The Golden Goose with six winners on the run and went from a tenner to a ton a bet in about a week. Found another note pad, I won 2600 from November to when I got told to bet elsewhere in January. When I lost £700 in February I lost confidence and ran out of money, I can actually look back and see quite a few shouldn't of been bets regarding the price of them at the time..

Catterick 1-00 Delirious Dream   2003  7/4   Today  11/10        WON 5/6

Catterick 3-30 Midnight Moll            2003  Ev    Today   2/5     NR

Bellewstown 4-40 Smile Of Love          2003   7/4  Today    Ev     WON 4/6

Ffos Las 3-28 Jahoori                   2003   6/4  Today    10/11   Won 6/5

Well done on the treble Billy

Thanks George but it wasn't a treble on the same day. Good luck today..

Tipperary 4-50 Library  2003  15/8   Today  11/10

Down Royal 6-25 Evenwood Sonofagun  2003  2/1  Today  6/4

Library made Big Noises but Sonofagun only fired into second place.

Have you checked down the back of sofa yet
Could be the Holy Grail sitting there

Level day not to be sniffed at

8 other maid/nov shorties today
3 wins
So could say dodged a few bullets
Expected to see Classic on your list though

Thanks mh, I was sitting in the garden listening to Rickie Hatton talking to James English when The first one went in and thought Wow, here we go again. I know an awful lot more about The Horses now than in 2003 but that doesn't guarantee success.
From the books I have found this works far better over the jumps and sticks so see how it goes..

Catterick 1-00 Delirious Dream   2003  7/4   Today  11/10        WON 5/6

Catterick 3-30 Midnight Moll            2003  Ev    Today   2/5     NR

Bellewstown 4-40 Smile Of Love          2003   7/4  Today    Ev     WON 4/6

Ffos Las 3-28 Jahoori                   2003   6/4  Today    10/11   Won 6/5

Tipperary 4-50 Library  2003  15/8   Today  11/10  Won Evens

Down Royal 6-25 Evenwood Sonofagun  2003  2/1  Today  6/4  2nd Evens


Today

Goodwood 1-50 Fairy Cross  2003 9/4    Today   7/4   Sire and Dam have good form on Softer conditions

Goodwood 4-10 Keep Bidding        2003  15/8  Today 11/8

Redcar 5-15 Cite DOr              2003  11/10  Today 4/5

Massive price for this type of Bet and The Ceiling Odds
Back out in The Sun mh listening to the rest of Ricky..

Sun is blinding me as I write..
Keep Bidding Cite D0r

Level devils BL again

Poor day for the hotshot nov/mdn faves
Group winner for you

& a cricket score to boot in the footie to get the season up and running after utd

Thanks mh, off to a flyer and then two 2nd's. None today.. Only for fun..

8 Ran with 5 winners and 3 seconds.


Catterick 1-00 Delirious Dream   2003  7/4   Today's Price  11/10        WON 5/6

Catterick 3-30 Midnight Moll            2003  Ev    Today's Price   2/5     NR

Bellewstown 4-40 Smile Of Love          2003   7/4  Today's Price    Ev     WON 4/6

Ffos Las 3-28 Jahoori                   2003   6/4  Today's Price    10/11   Won 6/5

Tipperary 4-50 Library  2003  15/8   Today's Price  11/10  Won Evens

Down Royal 6-25 Evenwood Sonofagun  2003  2/1  Today's Price  6/4  2nd Evens

Goodwood 1-50 Fairy Cross  2003 9/4    Today's Price  7/4  Won 2/1

Goodwood 4-10 Keep Bidding  2003  15/8  Today's Price 11/8  2nd 10/11

Redcar 5-15 Cite DOr   2003  11/10  Today's Price 4/5  2nd 8/11

Epsom Downs 2-40 Chartwell House  2003 2/1  Today's Price 15/8

Chepstow 4-06 Falesia Beach   2003  7/4  Today's Price  Evens

Ripon    4-51 Nigwa           2003  15/8  Today's Price  5/4

Catterick 1-00 Delirious Dream  WON 11/10       

Bellewstown 4-40 Smile Of Love  WON   Ev    

Ffos Las 3-28 Jahoori   WON 6/5

Tipperary 4-50 Library  WON 11/10 

Down Royal 6-25 Evenwood Sonofagun  2nd Evens

Goodwood 1-50 Fairy Cross WON 2/1

Goodwood 4-10 Keep Bidding  2nd 10/11

Redcar 5-15 Cite DOr  2nd 8/11

Epsom Downs 2-40 Chartwell House WON 15/8

Chepstow 4-06 Falesia Beach WON Evens

Ripon 4-51 Nigwa WON 5/4

Good one,Billy,not often you get three winners

WD billy you done well to keep those old notes not many do always good to look back at previous results that way you can see if there are any changes to be made to improve the performance I used to keep loads of old Racing post and try to find the holy grail never give up trying

Your like me sc,8 winners and 4 2nd's from 12 bets in 5 days t, I left a bet in The old Stanley bookies this morning. I am going to see if lightning can strike twice. Today's singles and Treble will give me a Good Starting Bank.

WD on treble BL
Reckon i must have done some work in your loft and spied the notes

Well done Billy.

When I said well done on the the treble the other day, it was obviously a premonition

Thanks mh, G  The next time you are up in the loft mh will you look out for an old stamp book I found while fitting a set of stairs in. Me and my mate made and fitted a set of stairs in an empty flat that got burned down a few weeks after in The Toxteth Riots.
In a box under the old stairs was a box with a stamp book and a load of Dirty Mags, my mate took a couple of The Mags and I took the stamp book.
I know there were Penny Reds and Blacks, probably not worth much but you never know..

No Bet Today..

When we were having our dinner, there was me and my mate and two old plasterers. We were all looking at The Nudie Books and
One of the old plasterers said something that that I have always remembered, he said.. and it was un-pc and non-woke men's building site talk in the 1980's " Ow can some men be **** puffs when yer look at dese **** beauties...

Oh that box
The post office kept returning the letters i used them on so binned them

4 qualifiers today but all heavy odds on

"Still going well hs, well done.."

Thanks Billy,

I hadn’t posted on my thread for a week but did you notice the troll posted 3 minutes after I hit the send button ?
Just makes himself look stupid.

happysandwich 28 Aug 22 17:20

I was going to get up in the loft yesterday mh but re-felted my shed instead with it being sunny, I could see the young couple next door watching me. They have gardeners, a cleaning firm and someone who comes and washes their car and valets it every two or three weeks. I am sure if they could find someone to put the bins out every Friday they would..

Keep it going hs, I might try and do some lays for fun myself soon. All I have to do is copy my early August form..

Lingfield 2-00  Harry Brown   2003 Tissue 5/4   Today  Evens   Best Odds   5/6  Lowest Odds 4/6  Betfair  2.12

Lingfield 3-00 Naval College  2003 Tissue 6/4 Today Evens  Best Odds 11/10  Lowest Odds 9/10  Betfair 2.16

No harm done with an Even Day on the singles with a loss on The Double..

13 Bets in August  9 Winners  4 Seconds  Approx 7pts Profit with early August a complete Wash Out..

Catterick 1-00 Delirious Dream  WON 11/10       

Bellewstown 4-40 Smile Of Love  WON   Ev   

Ffos Las 3-28 Jahoori   WON 6/5

Tipperary 4-50 Library  WON 11/10

Down Royal 6-25 Evenwood Sonofagun  2nd Evens

Goodwood 1-50 Fairy Cross WON 2/1

Goodwood 4-10 Keep Bidding  2nd 10/11

Redcar 5-15 Cite DOr  2nd 8/11

Epsom Downs 2-40 Chartwell/8 House WON 15/8

Chepstow 4-06 Falesia Beach WON Evens

Ripon 4-51 Nigwa WON 5/4

Lingfield 2-00  Harry Brown 2nd 6/5

Lingfield 3-00 Naval College WON Evens

The Price Range for these was 4/5 - 2/1 with the 4/5 winning six outa six over the four months.

Only one bet tomorrow so I am happy to take The Lucky 4/5 on..

Haydock  3-10 Castle Way  4/5   Cost best part of half a million and only found odds on stable mate too good nearly three weeks ago with the horse in third winning the other day..

WD billy followed you in on castle way also did the favourite in the race before in a double  both look very promising types nothing wrong with 4/5
Better than a 8/1 loser and much better interest than any high street bank

WD BL
Couple of others you could have added

Thanks sc, mh, There might of been more but I went up to my Mum and Dads early who are both in their late 80's, my Dad has a bet every day and funny enough has only really backed favourites all his betting life.
He showed me his bet and he had done CASTLE WAY as well..

Won 11/10, Won Ev, Won 6/5, Won 11/10, 2nd, Won 2/1, 2nd, 2nd, Won 15/8, Won Ev, Won 5/4, 2nd, Won 4/5..

Going for another early one on a horse that seems to have an awful lot going for it..

Down Royal  4-40 Sceolan  2/1

Kilbeggan 5-30 Carrarea  Evens

A 2/1 Winner and a Second..

Won 11/10, Won Ev, Won 6/5, Won 11/10, 2nd, Won 2/1, 2nd, 2nd, Won 15/8, Won Ev, Won 5/4, 2nd, Won 4/5, Won 2/1, 2nd

15 Bets, 10 Winners, 5 Seconds..  Approx 8pts Profit

67% Strike-Rate

You made the mistake of putting up the Irish napster one

I will have to watch out for that mh, none today. I actually like not having a bet, there are a few today I could of done but I have all these little rules in my head now and some will slip through but I know slowly but surely these will make a profit long term even if it is at a snails pace.
Twenty years of catching up to do..

Liverpool to win today..

One bet tomorrow..

York 1-45 Silencer  10/11

Worse result today so far..

Been out to a baby reveal all day and we all had to guess if the baby was going to be a boy or girl, couldn't even get that right.

Won 11/10, Won Ev, Won 6/5, Won 11/10, 2nd, Won 2/1, 2nd, 2nd, Won 15/8, Won Ev, Won 5/4, 2nd, Won 4/5, Won 2/1, 2nd, 5th Evens

Approx 7pts Profit..

Billy,

Why didn’t each of you lift the expectant Mum up, waist high with both hands, and guess the weight of the baby?

Everything revolves around sex nowadays.

Newcastle 6-00 Sigmund  The 7/4 looks a good bet considering what looks like a hopefully poor field, and with The Sire's penchant for Soft conditions and The Dam's stamina I just hope it's not a Freudian slip..

hs 

You also had to guess the expectant's mothers waist, I said 119cm and won a bottle of Newcastle brown

^
I only do feet and inches.

I said that to my wife and it was only because there was a 123, 125 and 127 figures all over the sheet that I picked 119, I looked it up hs and it is about 46 inches.
I am in the Dog house because I picked the Newcastle over Prosecco..
mh
We went over the water and were back to near The Scene of my wife's greatest hour in New Brighton, a lot of water has flowed down the Mersey since then

Hope you took your passport BL
Think Sadio nicked Salahs boots
Should have been a hatful
Strange league at the mo

Had you down for at least couple of others today

Well done mh, looks like all the others won..

Billy,

This is only a suggestion feel free to ignore it.

Open a Betfair Account for your Dad with £200 in it.

Show him how to do Boris’ Lay bets to win just £10 following the rules on my thread OP (or T/R on my Google sheet)and not have any other bets whatsoever (none).

He only needs to turn his computer on 4 minutes before every race time and place the bet last minute to make sure it’s BFSP 6 or under.
Even a fraction over and it's a No Bet.

Then watch every race by clicking on Live Stream.

He will be amazed how much fun he gets out of it.

Thanks hs, he is not too good and my son puts his bets on for him . He has even started going to bed after his last bet which is sometimes around 4pm. Sad..

Catterick 1-45 Flat White  7/4 BOG

Leicester 2-05 Rage Of Bamby  11/8 BOG

Goodwood 4-10 Sirona  11/8  BOG

1237/1000 and 11/8 going on to another 11/8

Delirious Dream  WON 11/10       
Smile Of Love  WON   Ev   
Jahoori   WON 6/5
Library  WON 11/10
Evenwood Sonofagun  2nd Evens
Fairy Cross WON 2/1
Keep Bidding  2nd 10/11
Cite DOr  2nd 8/11
Chartwell/8 House WON 15/8
Falesia Beach WON Evens
Nigwa WON 5/4
Harry Brown 2nd 6/5
Naval College WON Evens
Castle Way WON 4/5
Sceolan WON 2/1
Carrarea 2nd Evens
Silencer 5th 10/11
Sigmund 4th 7/4
Flat White WON 7/4
Rage Of Bamby WON 11/8
Sirona 2nd 11/8

Approx 8pts profit

Modern Dancer 2-25 Donc 11/8 BOG

Royal Prospect 2-50 Carl 9/4  BOG

Perseids 4-05 Cork  7/4  BOG

King of Scotia 6-15 Cork 15/8 BOG

With two non-runners total now is approx 6pts profit.

Doncaster 2-23 Dance in the Grass  Evens  BOG

Doncaster 3-10 Eshaada   7/4  BOG

Epsom Downs 3-25 Greatness Awaits  9/4 BOG

Chelmsford City 7-35 Glasstrees  11/4 BOG

Looks like you drifting away from your normal nov/mdns
GL

Doncaster 2-23 Dance in the Grass  Evens  BOG

Doncaster 2-35 Dance in the Grass  Evens  BOG

Billy, those funny race times are doing our heads in.

You are spot on hs. mh, just tried something. Nov/mdns back on tomorrow with certain Hcps. Some of The Reds looking old now but maybe Greatness Awaits if The Glasstrees don't get broken

Greatness Awaits came good to make it 7.775pts Profit


Chepstow 2-35 Ischia  5/4  BOG


Chepstow 3-40 Hiromichi  7/4 BOG


£200 Bank

£20 Double  5/4 - 7/4

No joy .. 5.775pts Profit

Double Bank £180

Occasional Bet Bank  £1000

£50 on Brighton 1-50 Big Bard  15/8


Gary Moore's 4yr old bay gelding and CD winner has been successful twice at 6f on Good to Firm ground and on the All-Weather. Same mark today as when beaten only 1/2l by Red Alert when second of 9 at 11-4 on this day last week. Tom Queally who won at Chelmsford on first win retains the ride today and aims to one better after just being held over 7f last week.

Occasional Bet Bank  £950

2nd-

1st Whistledown  12/1

2nd Big Bard     15/8f

3rd Pablo Del Pueblo  8/1



BIG BARD travelled in midfield,
         shaken up to chase leaders over 2f out
         ridden and led narrowly 1f out,
         kept on and looked the winner
         but headed inside final 110yds (tchd 15/8)

Double bank
Occasional bet bank
Stick to points

Thanks Freddie, it is just better for me for the time being. Don't worry I will probably change my mind soon enough like I usually do.

Occasional bet

Yarmouth 5-37 Time Step  3/1

Had you down for 4 others today
Went one race too early for Glasstrees
Left it late against the bathroom cleaners
A wins a win

I can blame The Queen for missing Glasstrees mh, it was in one of those races called off the night she passed away.


Starting Occasional Bet Bank   £1000   Today  £1100

2nd 15/8 - WON 3/1 -

1st Time Step WON 3/1
2nd Majeski Man
3rd Society Lion


Time Step took a keen hold pressing leader
shaken up and took the lead 2f out
ridden over 1f out and drifted left inside final furlong
kept on like a Good-un