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Get used to it whippin,ch4 racing and the Racing Post seem to be following their lead,RP even reporting LGBT+ getting involved in sponsoring racing during "National Coming Out Day!!!
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as you say tonight paul merson slamming gambling then ru pauls drag race then graham norton repeat who are bbc supposed to be appealing to mary whitehouse homosexuals?
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To give some balance to what might be misconstrued as a "sexiest" comment. Francesca & Sally Ann are much better at their jobs than Ed & Oli.
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If you're a white working class guy, there's nothing for you on the BBC bury your head in a few puzzle books for a month, then you'll be able to watch only connect with half a chance of answering something, the working class bonus is you get to imagine sticking your nose between victoria corens breasts while screaming out your favourite egyptian hieroglyphic
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victoria is wasted on mitchell peepshow is a timeless classic and he may be quite clever/witty but I feel she deserves more than this little fella imho
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between innings she'd probably get a deck of cards out and deal a few hands of poker, dream girl
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the working class bonus is you get to imagine sticking your nose between victoria corens breasts while screaming out your favourite egyptian hieroglyphic
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he is crying already 1.01 landed
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his young lad has a good left foot
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‘I have never had a chat with anyone on the phone about anything, bar gambling’
He’s either super thick, or extremely insincere. Given he opened with ‘Any-fink’, I’ll say he’s both. You can not deny he is a very unreliable witness. Doing a programme about problem gambling after presumably taking money from bookies to advertise gambling. There are two silver linings however, one, blowing £7m is good for the economy and two, that wart on his nose helps to keep his glasses on. |
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There was a chart The Economist made a few months ago, I’ll dig it out later, that showed the propensity of Premier League sponsorship.
From memory there were no bookies sponsoring it when it started, and now the industry is the single biggest advertiser on football shirts. |
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*I think there were rules restricting bookies advertising when the PL started.
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Aye thats it.
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I thought it was worth a watch, they didn't hold back. Already knew that risk/reward/brain plasticity occurs in all individuals through repetitive gambling. Didn't realise how out of control compulsive gamblers are though, they truly have an illness. Always suspected that bookies target them. But still a bit shocked about the collateral info they collect allowing them to manipulate compulsive gamblers, even though I've seen it first hand as one of my friends was almost bankrupted a few years ago through gambling on PaddyPower casino and he got all the VIP treatment during the downwards spiral.
Merstham, not the sharpest tool in the box, but not a total failure as has a wife standing by him and some great kids. Now he has had the courage to make that program and opening up about himself, I hope he can cope with criticism that will be thrown at him and find some happiness as he rebuilds. At a personal level, I love gambling as I assume most of us do and am so glad I am not a compulsive gambler. |
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This programme went head to head with RTE in Ireland showing the Barney Curley biography. I couldn't imagine the BBC putting that on as prime time viewing.
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I believe theres a saying within neuroscience; 'What fires together, wires together'
Meaning that pleasure is cemented in the activities where neurotransmitters are relearsed due to an action, over time the habit forms because neurons literally connect at the cost of connections elsewhere. His brain showed the result of that. |
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I thought that among other things it should the ridiculousness of some of the responsible gambling initiatives as the bookmakers have the information they need to tell them who the problems gamblers are.
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The silver lining in the programme was that it exposed the uselessness (deliberately obviously) of the approach that the industry has been permitted to adopt of putting all the responsibility on the addicted person.
The fact that the operators devise and are permitted to market addictive products is an aspect that needs more airing imo. |
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The bookies are still doing it. They're adopting a "subliminal" advert strategy to target the weak and possibly vulnerable but time-rich insomniac tv viewers with their "delicate" Gamblersaware commercials.
All gambling adverts on media esp tv, mobile and computer by bookies must be banned. Anything less is ineffective and only watering down the present rise in problem gambling. |
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Shouldn't the audio guys in bookies be banned? One of the blokes for Spoils will say, every day, that a particular 'special is proving very popular. The bookies could be only open 10 mins and he'll say this. Totally lying.
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The bottom line is that no amount of legislation will prevent addicted gamblers becoming addicted through asking bookies to adhere to pie in the sky rules.
The difference now is the internet and that is it and has been for this century,if an addict wants a fix it is at their fingertips regardless of age,Merson and his compatriots did not need the medium,one of them would always have laid him. Like all addictions,gambling does not discriminate between intellectual or economic circumstance? |
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The latest craze before Covid shut the shops were firms holding FREE competitions on the machines with top scorers getting FREE betting vouchers.
.... objective? To get customers hooked on gaming machines. Even the thick bookie apologists on here can`t dispute that. Since betting shops opened in the early 60s and even more so since the evolution of the internet, Bookies huge profits are made from problem compulsive gamblers, yet they still come out with all the guff forced on them by the gambling commission. e.g. "When the fun stops, STOP"! when in reality, they don`t give a F. Responsible winning gamblers get their accounts shut and are blacklisted in the shops. |
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Nationalise horse racing betting like France and Hong Kong with proceeds going to government to fund vital services and good social causes as in Hong Kong. The present high street and online bookies could go "underground" like some of those they critcised and despised intensely.
Maybe this is the way forward to ensure horseracing here can compete with those overseas eg Ireland, France, Japan, Hong Kong, etc. The bookies are funding the sport despiteb their ever increasing and cilossal annual profits. |
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*underfunding* ?
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Watching it as a gambler of many decades I wondered what drastic action could curtail my betting .
Ban all internet gambling would be the only method ...... the hassle of going back to a shop and the difficulty placing bets , trading a position etc would make me give up altogether . Never going to happen when these companies make gazillions through online markets. |
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Like alcohol, gambling would never get a licence if it was invented tomorrow.
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and sugar and plastic .....and many other developments/inventions.
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There was a story about a guy depositing over 2000 times in a year. Wouldn't be able to do that now ? Also Merson going in full bank after each win. That tells you he really wants to lose and have no money in order to have to stop rather than need any discipline.
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I got the impression he was doing it for the camera
After all, it wouldnt have had much point had he bet sensibly on the odds of probability |
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Like he was going 'look how focked up I am ill do this and not think'
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And when he went into that scanner complaining about it doing his head in and the beeping I just thought, he hasnt got a gambling problem he's just retarded.
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It's a brain illness, the winning or losing doesn't make a difference to a compulsive gambler, until it's all gone. It does make difference to family and other dependants though. The Panorama program last year showed a guy with hundreds of deposits a week and hand stolen/borrowed a lot of money from work and friends and a woman again with hundreds of deposits a week, in her case with Jackpot Joy. I think she had lost 600k inheritance money in about six months.
I was amazed banks were allowing that many transactions without some sort of check. I'm assuming it can't happen nowadays with affordability checks in place. |
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Don't think I would be sure about that Dusty. If you've done 7 million I would guess there was more than a few full bank plays.
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I dont doubt he has/had no understanding of the value of money as has already been mentioned, footballers are massively overpaid and dont tend to be Mensa types.
But him betting sensibly or coming across as rational wouldnt have made much of an impact. |
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Anyone feeling sorry for Mr Merson himself is either anothe Merson or lacking intelligence. Mr Merson was a footballer earning over £5k (mega bucks) a week then; wrapped his BMW round a tree due to his drinking; exhausted his sub (salary in advance) then asked the business partner of his dad to put bets on for him.
Easy come, easy go - not as if it was hard earn money. As such, I do not have a moment's compassion or sorry for him. However, his immediate family I feel very sorry for as they've not asked to be born or related to him. Mr Merson...no! You make your bed, you lie on it. |
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The psychology of a compulsive gambler is very interesting,a lad who used to work for me a few years ago,on about £300 pw told me that when he had money in his betting a/c he couldn’t sleep & would often get up in the middle of the night to find something to bet on,& also that when he’d lost his last penny he felt a great sense of relief.as far as Mersin is concerned don’t feel much sympathy but does beg the question why someone earning huge money would feel the need to gamble,it’s a pity no one nudged him into horse ownership,would have kept him interested in the game.would still probably have cost him but at least it would have been slower.
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how much u reckon he gets a week AFTER TAX from sky and other work he does such as after dinner speaking?...........5k?.........he does have 8 kids........i know some are grown up but after paying for everything he might be left with 1-2k a week which he could save..........still a great living for doing a job he loves..........still a great life...........he needs to get some inner peace....forget the past and be positive.
i wish him the best of luck but given that he bets on the same stuff he earns a living from - team sports.......it wont be easy....theres a diff between betting on horses every 5 mins - something which has nothing to do with your job - to betting on football, rugby and cricket.........something which his employer covers every day.........i know its all gambling but its like an alcoholic working in a pub.........there is some hope as betting on sports is not as bad as casino betting. |
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Weak c**t.
And that was all she wrote. |
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what are shilton and merson new books about?
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