Sussex Stakes 3.35 Goodwood

At least we know which horse will finish fast and not quite get there now, will aid forecast backers

was gonna start a thread but seen yours so will put my thoughts on here cork, agree with you on jamie on snow lantern good chance but on  this track and his usual style not for me at the prices ,poetic flare the titanium horse the obvious one to beat but he is a deserved short price and although the likely winner i have to take him on .alcohole free must have a good chance and has beaten snow lantern on similar ground to todays . i like the chance of tilsit who was only just touched off by a good horse in skalleti in france 2 runs back , then landed the summer mile last time and  has won over c&d last season, has a bit to find on the ratings but progressing well . i like a few at decent odds in these type of races and chindit appeals at a big price each way ,behind poetic flare a few times this season but can be backed at 40/1 and was a decent performer last season and ran well last time behind the fav in the st james palace at ascot btn just over 5l  hannon has said they will ride him more handily today.
selections tilsit 14/1 each way bog b365 and chindit 40/1 each way billies ..........good luck !

Hannon saying Chindit would not run yesterday but wouldn't be the first time he's changed his mind

hope he runs ,if you dont buy a ticket ya wont win the raffle and if the fav underperforms its up for grabs .

having listened to Hannon yesterday and now rewatched the Ascot race, I see why Hannon was so adamant he needs Snow Lantern to settle hence Spenser and if Snow Lantern does settle he only has Poetic to beat, also having watched Poetic again on the soft in France, he was beaten partly by an inability to quicken on soft as well as he can on better ground, having said that with a better trip he would have finished at least second to St Marks which should be good enough for today.

Chindit now a confirmed non runner

We’ve been so blessed with the 3yr olds taking part and the other older horses that a master trainer slipped one in pretty much unnoticed ie Duhail / Fabre.

Last time he won this was 87 with Soviet Star

https://youtu.be/I1kXWX7gkA0

And I suspect he’ll be ridden the same way too…

Not sure what to make of the jockey booking but I suppose he wanted someone who knows his way around Goodwood.

I’ll decide later on how to back him once we get a final confirmation on the non runners ie I suspect I’ll be dipping into the without markets for this one.

ELG, Fabre never to be ignored or underestimated when he chooses to send one over, on this occasion though I think a place will be the best he can expect especially with Crowley doing the steering, its form falls someway short of the pick of these and only the ground in its favour means it should not be totally written off, gl

can see Spencer having a good day today.
Irish Legend,Vadream & Snow Lantern.
   GL ALL.

Good pick IMO Duhail - it's not yet exposed at this trip, so not sure how we can knock it fully on form.

Won't mind the softer ground, great e/w pick at this price.

Penzie yes if JS can get Snowy up to win the Sussex it would bring him back from obscurity. GL

Crowley only thing putting me off a decent bet for Duhail, must admit.

Is the fav Poetic Flare as cast iron as the winner of the Goodwood Cup yesterday? Both clearly superior to the others. Bolger is not concerned the looser ground could hinder his charge; 6/4 (without Place Pier) represents value. No?

If I had to back a fancied one, I'd go with PF here - don't trust Spencer an inch.

Poetic Flair should be very hard to beat here. With Palace Pier not in the lineup, I thought he could well be the best bet of the meeting.

Poetic Flare has the best overall form no question but his two defeats were on soft and heavy while Alcohol Free achieved her best rating on heavy so she is my value bet. In other races, I have been following Fearby so he is my choice in the Molecombe and Bounce The Blues in the Oak Tree.

chchindit a nonner money back  and will replace it with fabres who is consistent and may be a late developer had plenty of exp and a decent each way price .around 22/1 each way

Spencer having a top day so far...2 unplaced.

Would need to win the big one to redeem at all.

So, anyone brave enough to back the redemption here...looks like fair support in market for Spencer redemption.

Sageform, P.F 2 defects were against top class horses and I'm expecting another blistering run today though the ground is not ideal .

Only having a smallish ew for the Fabre horse here, no other plays.

richard hannon, jamie got authority to change tactics if needed, does that mean jamie does whatever he wants?

He usually does ash

Yeah hope PF puts up a big performance as backed both Guineass but missed out last time, not a huge fan of Manning over the last 20yr he s cost us lots but gl to all except Frank lol can see him getting up last stride or summat lol

Yeah he sits last and hopes it falls into his lap as will do every 10 to 20 races id imagine

Then tries to swan around like a God when he finally manages one usually...

TBF it's the sycophant commentators that are bad too, at those times..

In the expectation Poetic flare doesn't handle the ground, Alcohol Free for me as the ground should be perfect.

Yeah they make out it was masterful and something special lol guess they need something to fawn over after excitement of race evaporates lol

AF very likeable lady

She ll like the ground and big run against her runstyle lto

Brilliant race this.  Lots of little head to heads, plus Ryan v Frankie for Coolmore, all topped up by Bolger doing what all top trainers should do and actually racing his top-class racehorse in a top class race.  Again.

8/1 eachway Duhail…in the without Poetic Flair and Snow Lantern Market…only 2 places though

poetic flare for me.  best horse, no point over-complicating it.  how far.

Jim has always thrown out his horses and races them for every pot going when he s a top one going.. Well Done LH for pointing out the bleeding obvious lol

Yeah Hulk .. like Adayar ... how far ... come on Jim :)

No hard luck stories pg .. good luck too all except LH

Too keen

Not Kevins finest hr

ffs,  hang onto your tickets I'm not sure that was Alcohol Free ...

pmsl must be very soft ground

Some performance given how she settled.

Lol dont understand why strangle the horse early stages just let him stride on abit and settle him

Crowley...managed to find trouble at key points and miss place...

Anyone raging at Crowley in running

Vex…anyways got my money back and small profit

they've finally worked it out with alcohol free

cannot see daylight otherwise too keen...pulled out wide 1 for challenge
good ride this time

Well done Sage and StormAlert.

Yet another jockey slated when his fav. is beaten by a better horse on the day.  It's pathetic.

Shows that the make all tactic last time got her beat.

The fav was all over the place. Manning looked slightly clueless as to what he should do!

Jul 28, 2021 -- 3:41PM, sageform wrote:

Shows that the make all tactic last time got her beat.

yeah & too keen on flank earlier in the spring

Going the diff

they really ought to find a competent jockey for snow lantern

That's the last time the fav will run on soft going that's for sure

the best jockey who rides regularly for hannon sat in the weighing room...get what they deserve imo

Manning didn't do anything wrong there, not much early pace and PF running very free. Managed to get it in a good position with every chance. Beaten by a better horse on the ground.

Yeah good ride from Oisim there went back to original runstyle after run lto and worked ..

Jul 28, 2021 -- 3:44PM, Storm Alert wrote:

Manning didn't do anything wrong there, not much early pace and PF running very free. Managed to get it in a good position with every chance. Beaten by a better horse on the ground.

Spot on. Was a good ride. Just found one better on the day. That's racing.

Yeah agree Storm Alert .. rewatched it and probably beaten by ground but didnt like course either .. coulda let it stride on earlier but not sure woulda made diff as AF inconvenienced too

Well done Oisin,really makes up for poor luck same race last year.

Exactly Storm Alert.  The fav. clearly beaten by a better horse on the day.  A bairn wi a biscuit e rse could work that one out.  Unfortunately  the Pearson-hater is just the e rse bit.

Going and tactic made the difference from Newmarket.

Think PF all over the shop but Manning bumped with Ryan and did little to help but if strode on might gave gone a length up b4 AF got organised but probably get caught anyhows .. Manning didnt do much wrong but not much right either .. manbikin manning imv but im biased as dont like him much lol very good ride by Oisin.. rather have him or Frankie up on the top ones

Yeah Sageform they seen made a mistake lto and rectified it ...

Stop trolling ya piece of sh yte LH

Best horse won on the day

I bet AF also if ya read back the thread i said to Sageform if change runstyle go well so not just the fav i bet ya  d o g LH so not pocket talking .. so go troll your mrs eh she s in your best mates gaff getting p u m ped

why are you a nasty individual?

massive difference on payout F/C 8.51 and 13.00 exacta

He s the one trollimg me on threads Penzance .. merely pointed out Pearson gave Star of Orion a poor ride which she did ... then this troll emerges ..

I wont be responding to you Penzence cos seen your posts down the yrs .. lol

Not the only one who thinks PF coulda been better ridden eh look at PF thread and decebt judges like Koikeeper say similar .. never said it should have won but think coulda been given better chance and Manning is well past use by date ..

jolly gets beat ,blame the jockey.
Best horse won,there's only been 2 winners
come out of the 2000G,this & Mutasaabeq.

I bet both so dont care but dont think Manning helped his mount and where did i say AF wasnt a deserved winner ... i backed it lto and said it was rode against its runstyle lto if ya look back thread and Oisin said as much that while had no choice lto was against its runstyle ... so you are arguing with yourself ...

Also stated she d like the ground which she did ...

Jolly got beat ... didnt get good ride .. not particularly bad ride but not a good one imv

Never ever been a Manning fan everything seems to pull with him.

Dawn Approach in the Derby

Whilst somewhat disappointed that Poetic Flare was beaten today. it was no disgrace to lose to the filly who proved to be the better horse on the day, hopefully JB will think about taking PF over for the Breeders Cup meeting, could be a very decent payday awaiting him

Im with you on that one Acey ... been a common trait down the years .. failed to get many settled early and fights them too much then ... agree with CL but think number of things went against him today .. track keen ness and met an in form talented filly wuth race run to suit on ground she liked and better tactics emoloyed .. both top animals and can see PF go well US side with Frankie up ...