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By:
ericster
When: 28 May 21 11:21
dusty, phone MY doctor?
Isn't going happen.
Awful rottweiler of a receptionist and I really don't think my lot have time for that.
After years of being actively, no [aggressively] being put off asking for an appointment, you just don't.

The new "normal".Sad

Hayden I don't think any of them are totally without risk but you probably got the safest one. And it's more effective I believe.
By:
ericster
When: 28 May 21 11:25
I DID actually phone and ask but first, as I said, you have to be interrogated by the rotty.
Had those symptoms totally gone now? She questioned.
"Yes", I answered.
"Well there you are then. You're okay."
She's so clever, our receptionist.LoveScared
By:
Facts
When: 28 May 21 11:58
Re the numbers quoted by Column UK.
How valid are they, ? What's is the source?
Attributes deaths to the vaccine. How do we know this ?
Is every person dying who has had a jab, receiving an autopsy ?

How many people die of blood clots ' naturally ' ?
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 28 May 21 12:15
The source is the HM Government

https://coronavirus-yellowcard.mhra.gov.uk/datasummary

Click on the link at the bottom and it takes you to each data set.

All UK Column has done is to take the data and put it into a database that is user-friendly eg sort by specific adverse conditions for any one or all of the vaccine suppliers.
By:
MJK
When: 28 May 21 12:19

May 28, 2021 -- 9:01AM, Manoleeds wrote:


I can't help but notice that a lot of the vaxxed say "I've had mine, you should have yours" . To me it comes across as "I'm a bit worried that something might go wrong down the line and I want you to be in the same boat as me."


All you've done is flipped my earlier point. The difference is that those of us unvaccinated or in the process of hope everyone does it for everyone's safety but if they dont that's their choice. Those who dont want it and spout the conspiracy theories do it solely, as I said yesterday,  to put themselves at ease by trying to scare others into not getting it. They dont care less about their safety. If they did they would just accept it and move on instead of being angry at people who get the vaccine.

By:
wondersobright
When: 28 May 21 12:54

May 28, 2021 -- 10:00AM, Facts wrote:


wondersobright

By:
wondersobright
When: 28 May 21 12:55
Facts • May 28, 2021 10:00 AM BST
' statistics ' reported by UK Column are global numbers


wrong, it is UK jab data only
By:
wondersobright
When: 28 May 21 12:55

May 28, 2021 -- 12:15PM, GEORGE.B wrote:


The source is the HM Governmenthttps://coronavirus-yellowcard.mhra.gov.uk/datasummaryClick on the link at the bottom and it takes you to each data set.All UK Column has done is to take the data and put it into a database that is user-friendly eg sort by specific adverse conditions for any one or all of the vaccine suppliers.


correct

By:
swiftynifty
When: 28 May 21 13:19
wonders, so are you predicting another autumn/winter wave with another 50,000 deaths?
By:
wondersobright
When: 28 May 21 13:25
I'm not putting numbers on it but we'll see the usual winter spike in deaths imo + additional deaths relating to the jabs & due to the likely lockdown that will be imposed again
By:
RothmanMike
When: 28 May 21 13:45
AstraZeneca x2 for me, and still here.
If Prof Sarah Gilbert says it’s safe , that’s good enough for me Plain
By:
MJK
When: 28 May 21 14:21

May 28, 2021 -- 1:25PM, wondersobright wrote:


I'm not putting numbers on it but we'll see the usual winter spike in deaths imo + additional deaths relating to the jabs & due to the likely lockdown that will be imposed again


Of course you're conveniently forgetting that flu deaths are now way down due to masks/lockdown but you're still gonna claim the 'usual' death toll due to that, and not Covid.

By:
casemoney
When: 28 May 21 14:52
"Average age still 82.4, can't be many left for this deadly virus"

Not many over 80s in India Move, still plenty Dying .

Other than slightly sore arm no reaction to 2nd VAX Grin
By:
Deptford
When: 28 May 21 18:54
case, sore arm is due to watching too much x hamster.com
By:
Movewiththetimes
When: 28 May 21 19:32
Case - India 27,718,520 cases 322,264 deaths (1%) with a poor health system, deadly? Spanish flu 25%(Actual) to 50%(esitmates) deaths
By:
Movewiththetimes
When: 28 May 21 19:35
I wouldn't call over 10 million over 80s in India not many case.
By:
General Midwinter
When: 28 May 21 19:37
The place I come for all my vaccine info - a small horse racing forum on the interwebs.
By:
Movewiththetimes
When: 28 May 21 19:40
But you did Laugh
By:
General Midwinter
When: 28 May 21 20:03
Nope, already had both AZ jabs.

For the record - horrible side effects from jab 1. I don't think I've ever shaken quite that violently, felt like sh1t for three days. Jab 2 - five hours in -'here we go again' then 10 minutes later I felt fine.
By:
Movewiththetimes
When: 28 May 21 20:20
I just want to get on with my life, done everything they advised for nearly 18 months, even booked uk holiday again this year but now they saying June 21st might not go ahead and if you had both jabs and come into contact you still got to self isolate CryCryCry
By:
General Midwinter
When: 28 May 21 20:48
I know - booked for France in September thinking 'it can't possibly go on that long' still a sweat though.
By:
Movewiththetimes
When: 28 May 21 20:50
hope you're right Excited
By:
glentoby
When: 28 May 21 20:51
Apart from never having heard of the woman you mention lief,I mentioned this to my OH.Her reply was scathing to say the least about the UK in particular.Quite simply she states that just because someone dies from a blood clot following ANY of the vaccines does not mean it was caused by the vaccine,she also say's "If this was not a media person" would it require an inquest?

She really is angry that the percentage of people dying worldwide from blood clots is hardly out of sync with the norm and yet scare stories like this are discouraging people from taking a vaccination.As she says.even if it were a risk it is no more than contracting the virus in any of the variants and dying from it.

Bear in mind she lost her sister and niece very early on,both medics,both young and fit and healthy,in her opinion and I agree,we all owe it to everyone a.To avoid spreading the virus B.to take the vaccinations regardless of any tiny risk,little different to the Flu vaccines?
By:
N-east Correspondent
When: 28 May 21 21:03
Pretty much agree with most of that Glen apart from why she is scathing of UK? It was the EU (ok Germany and France who first put doubts in peoples minds and banned the use of it) followed by the likes of Italy, Spain, Canada, Denmark etc. Glasgow the only area in Scotland still without indoor mixing/alcohol indoors has a near 50% no show on vaccines and rates are going up, even though people are being pleaded with to take it up, as you say there are
dangers in all vaccines and blood clots occur naturally with or without astra but the scare stories are mainly elsewhere and likely political.
By:
spyker
When: 28 May 21 23:54
I presume all the people that are anti covid vaccine also don't take any medication of any kind ever? If not you are being pretty fecking naive as almost every single drug has side effects that can produce death in about 100,000 - almost certainly 50,000 but 100k is fair enough.- from aspirin to whatever whatever - I don't even need to prove it it's so well known!
I fact the fact they know certain vaccine may cause issues in a certain demographic arguably makes it much safer than any other drug that millions take and a few will die from every day.
By:
smirnoff2therescue
When: 29 May 21 00:25
as Freddie used to say CryCrySadSad

Is this the world we created


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wllXY322K7Q

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riwDo7_GxjM

two classic versions of .......... fookin stupidity CryCryCry
By:
Facts
When: 29 May 21 02:27
Movewiththetimes    28 May 21 18:32 
Case - India 27,718,520 cases 322,264 deaths (1%) with a poor health system, deadly? Spanish flu 25%(Actual) to 50%(esitmates) deaths


Deaths from the virus in India is way understated. Could be 5 times the ' official ' number.
Untold numbers dying at home and been cremated or put into the river.
By:
Deptford
When: 29 May 21 09:33
Yep ^, its a personal choice, not for me thanks.
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 29 May 21 12:16
Indeed, Deptford.

Unfortunately, it would appear that I've been CENSORED and my post has been removed.

For those of you who did not get the chance to read it, you can rest assured that it contained many words of wisdom.

Well, as the Thought Police are after me, it's time for me to depart the scene.
By:
wondersobright
When: 29 May 21 13:06
not just you george...multiple posts removed
By:
wondersobright
When: 29 May 21 13:07
the modern day book burning
By:
ericster
When: 29 May 21 13:13
Shocked
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