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Hibore
16 Mar 21 08:25
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Win or lose this is now a rancid price perhaps worst value over all 4 days. But Punters still steaming in.......

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geoff m
When: 16 Mar 21 08:39
agree so laying 2.44/2.46  Crazy price.
By:
geoff m
When: 16 Mar 21 08:48
into 2.36!!
By:
ashleigh
When: 16 Mar 21 08:50
appreciate it gone the same way 1.76.Surprised
By:
robo
When: 16 Mar 21 08:50
I don’t get the absurd fascination with perceived value and prices by punters . Since time began we are listening to people who won’t back favourites because they are too short , but will back outsiders who usually have no chance , because they are “value “. Well to me it’s all about winning and losing and honeysuckle doesn’t know what price she is . She may be shorter than she should be but she’s clearly a likely winner . Personally I could see her winning , I wouldn’t have backed her at 5/2 , and I certainly wont be backing her now , but on the flipside I’m not going to go knee deep laying her just because she looks underpriced. In all likelihood there is something wrong with one of the main challengers , which is obviously not in the public domain . It will be interesting to see how the race pans out
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 16 Mar 21 10:46
Crazy price
By:
sageform
When: 16 Mar 21 10:51
Honeysuckle should be as short as Appreciate It imo. Around 7/4 each. My £2 on Dusart for the Supreme went south weeks ago so I will be sitting that one out but I am on Honeysuckle at 3.95 and that will do for me.
By:
Hibore
When: 16 Mar 21 10:51
I don’t lay horses very often. Clan Des Obeux KG was the last one.

This is getting very tempting.
By:
andyl
When: 16 Mar 21 10:57
10 runs, 10 wins unbeaten, running against epatante (hendo form all year totally awful, v disppointing against silver streak lto) classy but not 4 me this time, goshen a novice (again beat next to nowt)....v short but what price would you say was value 3-1 ish??? and ex;lsed horses with placed form in race eg sstreak and sharjah which i can see both running big races but not being quite good enough

you are right 6-4 is now becoming too short but honeysuckle is by far the likeliest winner imo, ground spot on....and i think it wwill win but

at the prices strictly from a value point of view can anyone tell me why silver streak is 25-1 and epatante just 4-1
By:
geoff m
When: 16 Mar 21 11:09
robo16 Mar 21 08:50Joined: 04 Nov 06 | Topic/replies: 1,218 | Blogger: robo's blog
I don’t get the absurd fascination with perceived value and prices by punters .


For anyone who doesnt think price matters

Back every fav @ top Betfair Exchange price you will win money
Back every fav @ bottom Betfair Exchange price you will lose money

Likewise:

Lay every fav @ top Betfair Exchange price you will lose money
Lay every fav @ bottom Betfair Exchange price you will win money


The above was easy to type but unfortunately impossible to achieve.
So @ the end of the day you need to be as close to those win parameters as you can
By:
andyl
When: 16 Mar 21 11:10
goshen is a drifter (as i expected it would be as their are massive ?'s over its form and whether it is good enough adn 4-1 was far too short, i think its a huge place lay) so that partly explains why honeysuckle has come in....epatante itself looks good value to me (if priced on last years win you'd expect it to be a 2-1/5-2 shot). Its all ifs and buts with value though....personally think honeysuckle is the one to beat, there are fewest ? marks and until this horse is beaten imo it's one to keep with....
By:
The Biscuit
When: 16 Mar 21 11:19
Most of her wins have been over 2 1/2m admittedly she has also won the 2m Irish Champion Hurdle twice but she's poor value and I've looked elsewhere, Goshen 5/1 EW 4 places and Abracadabras 10/1 ditto.
By:
G Hall
When: 16 Mar 21 11:54
Morning biscuit, did you take a sabbatical, haven't seen you posting for ages
By:
impossible123
When: 16 Mar 21 12:08
'Lay' at 2.28 for a small stake. She's was too short. She may still win but just feel her last form was suspect.
By:
TheGoddess
When: 16 Mar 21 13:14
Fred back to 6/4
By:
howard
When: 16 Mar 21 13:22
I don't like it when top mares get 7lb so won't be laying.
By:
equine flew
When: 16 Mar 21 14:37
Looking at the ground after the first, I imagine she will start to drift now.
By:
geoff m
When: 16 Mar 21 14:39
that clearly aint soft ground and think shes been backed on the premise it is which would suit her more than Epatante/Abacadabras/Sharjah
By:
geoff m
When: 16 Mar 21 14:39
Supreme 11 seconds quicker than last year.
By:
bettysboy
When: 16 Mar 21 14:51
that looked a special supreme winner to me
By:
The Spinmaster
When: 16 Mar 21 15:09
Fast ground suits Epatante better.
By:
1st time poster
When: 16 Mar 21 15:12
honeysuckle ev money to run near 3 mins 55 nah thanks
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 16 Mar 21 15:13
You have to brave to back her on that ground.
By:
1st time poster
When: 16 Mar 21 15:14
and the horse, Wink
By:
impossible123
When: 16 Mar 21 15:47
Bookies are running scared. They are still hammering into Honeysuckle. She's 11/10 and 'even' money. Sheer madness!
By:
metro john
When: 16 Mar 21 15:52
Shes Amazing you see.
By:
Life-Lucky
When: 16 Mar 21 15:56
I'll back her 'til she beaten
By:
stratfordman
When: 16 Mar 21 16:00
Agree too short but the Leopardstown run wins this.
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 16 Mar 21 16:09
well done backers.
By:
in hell
When: 16 Mar 21 16:09
Hacked up
By:
shady69
When: 16 Mar 21 16:10
Boom Laugh
By:
andyl
When: 16 Mar 21 16:10
can't moan about that ....how did it go off odds against lol....
By:
TINnotaTON
When: 16 Mar 21 16:10
different class, spent all race watching goshen Laugh
By:
geoff m
When: 16 Mar 21 16:10
good priceLaughLaughLaugh
By:
howard
When: 16 Mar 21 16:11
rancid priceLaugh
By:
Deptford
When: 16 Mar 21 16:11
Great to watch
By:
andyl
When: 16 Mar 21 16:12
be 4-7 next year.
By:
impossible123
When: 16 Mar 21 16:12
Well done Honeysuckle and Blackmore! An emphatic win. The rest no where. Same again next year. Well done backers.
By:
greenteethnarrabacktroutmoy
When: 16 Mar 21 16:13
hilbore..totally clueless tdc.
By:
TOP3MAN
When: 16 Mar 21 16:14
She is a lovely mare....but the 2nd tells me it was sub standard again in terms of champion hurdle class
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