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By:
Tiger Tiger
When: 08 Jan 21 11:58
Crazy

Then go to the correct forum, its why its there.
By:
Alkeyhole
When: 08 Jan 21 12:08
The people saying the BLM riots can't possibly compare to the Washington riots, do you realise 19 people died in the George Floyd protests alone? All rioters are disgusting and should be prosecuted as harshly as possible.  Most if not all Republicans have condemned the riots this week.  Almost no Democrats condemned the George Floyd riots.  These are facts, not opinions. And after all, nobody changes their opinion on anything these days. But as least know the facts.
By:
Magic__Daps
When: 08 Jan 21 13:05
Stop talking sense alkeyhole.

The left/Democrats condemn BLM riots, looting and murders - not a chance in hell. It was a free pass for them knowing that the media would hardly report it, and if they condemned them they would lose votes (if you vote Trump you ain't black). There has been more coverage by the media of The Capitol in one morning than the combined riots, misery and deaths caused by the BLM mob. You only have to look on here (in the correct forum) to see how many threads/posts are all one way, and ask yourself how many of those same posters said the same thing when it was the BLM mob doing far, far worse?
By:
dave1357
When: 08 Jan 21 13:08
whatabout whatabout whatabout

whatabout whatabout what-a-bout
By:
brigust1
When: 08 Jan 21 13:18
That is something like a coherent answer Dave. Wasn't hard was it?

My point is the Police should have been there in force to start with but they were not. You think it was Trump I think it was the establishment. I don't think Trump has any say in Policing now and if he did it would have been all over the press.
By:
Alkeyhole
When: 08 Jan 21 13:22
Whataboutism would be to say "whatabout the BLM riots" as a defence of the Washington riots. That's not what I'm doing.   I'm saying they're at the very least comparable, which lots of people do not understand.

Furthermore I'm saying if you didn't criticize the BLM riots you have no legitimacy to criticize the Washington riots.  That applies to virtually every Democrat and certainly applies to the majority of the mainstream media.

It doesn't apply to me, I condemn all rioters, cannot stand them. The vast majority are just c***s who want to steal and destroy.
By:
dave1357
When: 08 Jan 21 13:24
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-attempted-coup-federal-law-enforcement-capitol-police-2021-1?r=US&IR=T

Some among America's military allies believe Trump deliberately attempted a coup and may have had help from federal law-enforcement officials

    Multiple European security officials told Insider that President Donald Trump appeared to have tacit support among US federal agencies responsible for securing the Capitol complex in Wednesday's coup attempt.
    Insider is reporting this information because it illustrates the serious repercussions of Wednesday's events: Even if they are mistaken, some among America's international military allies are now willing to give credence to the idea that Trump deliberately tried to violently overturn an election and had help from some federal law-enforcement agents.
    "We train alongside the US federal law enforcement to handle these very matters, and it's obvious that large parts of any successful plan were just ignored," one source told us.
    Visit Business Insider's homepage for more stories.

The supporters of President Donald Trump who stormed the Capitol on Wednesday to stop the ratification of President-elect Joe Biden's election victory were attempting a violent coup that multiple European security officials said appeared to have at least tacit support from aspects of the US federal agencies responsible for securing the Capitol complex.

Insider spoke with three officials on Thursday morning: a French police official responsible for public security in a key section of central Paris, and two intelligence officials from NATO countries who directly work in counterterrorism and counterintelligence operations involving the US, terrorism, and Russia.

They said the circumstantial evidence available pointed to what would be openly called a coup attempt in any other nation. None were willing to speak on the record because of the dire nature of the subject.
By:
brigust1
When: 08 Jan 21 13:32
Dave, someone, a real person, made the decision about how many police officers were on duty at Capitol Building on that day. It is not rocket science. It will be one record. I don't want to know what people all around the world think I want to know who made that decision and why.

Until evidence steps forward I believe the Democrats were behind it because they want to impeach Trump. Possibly to try to disgrace him to his followers and possibly to prevent him from running in 4 years time against their then president. This never happened by accident it was a planned move. It may have been bad planning but it was planned.
By:
dave1357
When: 08 Jan 21 13:38
Until evidence steps forward I believe the Democrats were behind it


I'd fkin hate to have you on my jury
By:
dave1357
When: 08 Jan 21 13:40
And actually with that statement you have shown yourself worthless of any discussion and I won't do so again. Enjoy your delusional life.
By:
Magic__Daps
When: 08 Jan 21 13:42
Poor old Dave, pretty much the same as most on the left. Say absolutely nothing when it comes to their "team" having riots, looting, murdering, causing untold misery to innocent business owners and communities. Yet when it is the opposite "team", the hate and condemnation comes out in droves. Anyone questions what the difference is between the two just gets the childish "whataboutery" response (as the questions are not allowed to be asked), but there is still no condemnation of the riots by his "team". I expect he even donated to Kamalas fund to free the ones that were arrested to get them back out on bail, so they could create even more misery to innocent people.
By:
dave1357
When: 08 Jan 21 13:52
Whataboutery

Whataboutism, also known as whataboutery, is a variant of the tu quoque logical fallacy that attempts to discredit an opponent's position by charging them with hypocrisy without directly refuting or disproving their argument.[1][2][3]

Whataboutism is particularly associated with Soviet and Russian propaganda.[4][5][6] When criticisms were leveled at the Soviet Union during the Cold War, the Soviet response would often be "What about ..." followed by instancing of an event or situation in the Western world.[7][8][9] According to Russian writer, chess grandmaster and political activist Garry Kasparov, it is a word that was coined to describe the frequent use of a rhetorical diversion by Soviet apologists and dictators, who would counter charges of their oppression, "massacres, gulags, and forced deportations" by invoking American slavery, racism, lynchings, etc.[10] Whataboutism has been used by other politicians and countries as well.
By:
brigust1
When: 08 Jan 21 14:05
What is it with you Dave? You can blame Trump who gains absolutely nothing from storming Capitol building and all it does is takes the emphasis away from his point then if I blame the Democrats, who can only gain from the storming of Capitol building and you throw your toys out of the pram?
By:
WHOKNOWSTHEBOWLER
When: 08 Jan 21 14:09
You are worse than the left wing media.
So people  breaking the law , is Trumps fault. It's time people started taking responsibility for their own actions. And why are you posting political crap on here. Go  and post on The Guardian chatroom
By:
dave1357
When: 08 Jan 21 14:18
^irony man itt
By:
dave1357
When: 08 Jan 21 14:20
in fact it is so good, it should be the first example in the grammar book section titled "Irony".
By:
hello :-)
When: 08 Jan 21 14:24
trump stokes angry mob

angry mob storms building

its a plan to discredit trump Laugh
By:
posy
When: 08 Jan 21 14:28
Can you imagine the furore if instead of the female veteran that was shot dead it had been a vicious criminal like that George ? fellow whose death albeit accidental or not caused such mayhem in the summer.
By:
EastLower Gooner
When: 08 Jan 21 14:29
It was mostly peaceful protests until Antifa & BLM showed up.

https://bit.ly/2LBARwX
By:
dave1357
When: 08 Jan 21 14:32
she may have been a veteran, but she died a traitor thanks to trump.
By:
Magic__Daps
When: 08 Jan 21 14:32
I think we can safely say that Dave happily condones the violence, murders, looting, burning down of businesses and cities from the left (as do most of the left, going by the media and posts on here). Also it is just simply known to them as plain old activism - and then if (big if) it is actually reported they just blame the right or anyone else for that violence, then rinse and repeat. Yet, when it is any other group doing anything close to that of the left they are known as a rioters, vandals and terrorists.
By:
dave1357
When: 08 Jan 21 14:36
Can you produce any evidence of me saying that?
By:
dave1357
When: 08 Jan 21 14:37
You seem to be very angry in this thread making unsubstantiated allegations. Are you upset that trump's coup failed?
By:
dave1357
When: 08 Jan 21 14:38
and everything that you support is collapsing
By:
carrot1960
When: 08 Jan 21 14:38
Eight months of rioting and looting and the Democrats and the media saw nothing to worry about a peaceful protest is infiltrated by Antifa resulting in an unarmed women protester being shot / murdered through a barricaded window/door  and the media and the demented Democrats go into overdrive , the police leaders are forced to resign and DC is put into lockdown. As of yet  no one has been  charged / brought to justice  for three months of  Portland riots or any other riot come to that and  yet a most wanted list is issued for the congress protest the following morning . RIP America
By:
donb
When: 08 Jan 21 14:40
There is no point trying to convince a die hard leftie.  It is like trying to teach a pig to sing, it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
By:
EastLower Gooner
When: 08 Jan 21 14:42
Wooooow this has gone too far now...

New England Patriots to change name

The New England Patriots football team plan to change their name after the events in the nation’s Capitol this week, the team has said.

Going forward they will be known as the New England football team.

Ex US President Donald Trump denounced the move, tweeting it was "cancel culture at work!"

"We believe our organisation is at its best when we can unify our community," franchise owner Robert Kraft said in a statement on Friday morning.

Full Story here:

https://bit.ly/3omscNz
By:
donb
When: 08 Jan 21 14:47
The New England Patriots football team plan to change their name after the events in the nation’s Capitol this week, the team has said.

Going forward they will be known as the New England football team.

A very stupid move as this will upset a lot of fans, they will pay for this at the ticket box.
By:
dave1357
When: 08 Jan 21 14:48
carrot1960 she was a traitor shot by legal authorities holding the line to protect elected representatives and their families.
By:
dave1357
When: 08 Jan 21 14:49
^^cancel culture itt
By:
fife
When: 08 Jan 21 14:50
Imagine how many more deaths would have occurred had the security forces turned up in the same numbers and treated the rioters with same aggressiveness as they did the BLM in the summer.
By:
EastLower Gooner
When: 08 Jan 21 14:51
Fact Check - Shot by oath breakers....not legal authorities.

Military funeral with full Honors for the brave Patriot.

Amen
By:
Magic__Daps
When: 08 Jan 21 15:05
EastLower Gooner
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08 Jan 21 15:29
It was mostly peaceful protests until Antifa & BLM showed up.

https://bit.ly/2LBARwX


This will be all over the mainstream news, expect it already is.
By:
mwnn
When: 08 Jan 21 15:05
The far right president of the USA incites his followers,a mob of far right neo nazi,white supremeist,QAnon conspiracy
nut jobs to attack the centre of  democracy in their country to overturn the fair and honest  election result,as stated by every high office in the country.Then two days later condemns them as heinous criminals and thugs who will face the full force of the law.

Then on a betting forum, people with far right views and opinions blame the left Laugh
By:
donb
When: 08 Jan 21 15:10
Mwnn

Then on a betting forum, people with far right views and opinions blame the left

The problem with the left is they want to recreate a system that in the past led to the death of millions and they say anyone who does not want to follow them in this insanity is "Far Right".
By:
dave1357
When: 08 Jan 21 15:21
you are utterly demented if you think that most of the ppl you claim are "lefties", particularly in the US, are anything other than left centre moderate. It is stunningly obvious who is the main threat to "millions".
By:
dave1357
When: 08 Jan 21 15:24
trump's base, as was obvious this week, is mainly poorly educated white people. I wonder how many of them there are in this thread?
By:
Magic__Daps
When: 08 Jan 21 15:26
Got to love how any single person who doesn't think the same as this mwnn character is automatically a far right, neo nazi, white supremacist, qanon nutjob. Then labels anyone who says anything he doesn't agree with has "far right" views. He will probably also be wondering why there is such a divide in society (and blame the far right Trump), when anyone with a different view cannot even have any type of voice or debate with people like himself/herself, as he/she is incapable of listening to others due to the "I am always right" thinking.

People like him/her have made the words Nazi, Fascist and Racists pretty meaningless nowadays, so congratulations on that achievement.
By:
EastLower Gooner
When: 08 Jan 21 15:36
Fact Check - Enrique Tarrio is a black Cuban. He is not a white supremacist.

Trump supporter does not mean you’re this and that....

MAYBE IF YOURE A DEMON RAT!

Lol

Sorry my bad...calm down ELG...calm down...Charlie Todd didn’t mean to ruin your day...it’s Friday...go work out and make yourself a nice meal after.
By:
Magic__Daps
When: 08 Jan 21 15:47
trump's base, as was obvious this week, is mainly poorly educated white people. I wonder how many of them there are in this thread?


How can that be true? I thought the poorly educated people of the US were exactly the people Biden went after, they are all the disadvantaged people aren't they? Or are you saying the BLM narrative of black people being unfairly treated from education, jobs, murders and all the way to prison is all lies, and they really are the well educated people? I didn't think all those BLM rioters, looters, murderers and violent people came across as very well educated to be fair.
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