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By:
Charlton2005
When: 23 Dec 20 13:17
and to you. i'll have a look at the article. the name calling is meant to balance out the almost godlike following that you have. it is obvs not personal.
By:
Charlton2005
When: 23 Dec 20 13:32
the data presented are at too high a level to determine the cause of the difference in strike rates. one suggestion is that it may be owing to experience (among a host of others) and the article comments as follows;

The stated aim of this brave and pioneering move was to incentivise owners and trainers to give more opportunities to female jockeys who had historically struggled to make a meaningful impact in French racing. The underlying hope was that increased numbers of rides for female jockeys would give them more opportunity to improve their skills on the job and develop into successful professional riders.

so once their skill level has improved, do we take the allowance away? When do we deem them to have improved sufficiently? (another impossible question to answer).
By:
Charlton2005
When: 23 Dec 20 13:49
having read the article, maybe I have misunderstood your focus. if the aim is simply to level the playing field through affirmative action policies then this will be fine. however I think (and I think the vast majority think the same, especially women who are against the policy) the focus is actually based on an assumption that there is a difference relevant capabilities of the sexes. If the latter, this is unprovable.
By:
acey deucy
When: 23 Dec 20 14:20
Told ya.Wink
By:
Charlton2005
When: 23 Dec 20 14:24
Grin ACEY
By:
acey deucy
When: 23 Dec 20 14:28
Glad he got back to you Charlton.Laugh
By:
Charlton2005
When: 23 Dec 20 14:31
Grin
By:
elise
When: 23 Dec 20 14:55
i wouldn't say he has a god like following, personally i prefer to read views that don't always follow the mainstream from people that have a real love of the sport , not that fussed whether i agree with them tbh, just whether they open up an interesting debate or ask questions some are too politically aware to ask, the latter we seem to have in abundance sadly
By:
Somerset Sam
When: 23 Dec 20 16:58

Dec 23, 2020 -- 1:49PM, Charlton2005 wrote:


having read the article, maybe I have misunderstood your focus. if the aim is simply to level the playing field through affirmative action policies then this will be fine. however I think (and I think the vast majority think the same, especially women who are against the policy) the focus is actually based on an assumption that there is a difference relevant capabilities of the sexes. If the latter, this is unprovable.


Do you think female horses should receive a weight allowance against their male counterparts?

By:
roggrain
When: 24 Dec 20 15:24
I am opposed to weight allowances of all kinds.* Let the jockeys and horses find their own level.

The Arc.for example, has been hugely in favour of 3 year olds especially fillies over the years.

The argument in favour is that if there were no allowances they wouldn't enter, only older horses

would run in certain events such as the Arc. The counter to that is the top 3 year olds might stay

in training for another year.
                                      * apart from apprentices.
By:
roggrain
When: 24 Dec 20 15:41
Oh, and why should an experienced female jockey say Hayley Turner or Hollie Doyle be able to enjoy

the same weight allowance as a 5lb apprentice? Would female apprentices start out on a 12lb

allowance?
By:
Ramruma
When: 24 Dec 20 16:16
Is this an idea whose time has come and gone?

The statistics in Blake's article are unconvincing mainly because they are unsurprising. If you gave any group of jockeys, left-handers for instance, an allowance you'd expect them to be used more and win more. That is how allowances work. If they gave Frankie Dettori a 5lbs allowance, we'd be straight onto Oddschecker for next season's championship prices.

A decade or two ago, perhaps we were looking at how to get more women jockeys, and perhaps Alex & Emma's prominence in the early days of the all-weather was a false dawn but nowadays women no longer stand out on a card. There are still some trainers who hold out but progress now is steady enough on the Flat and over the Jumps, in Britain and Ireland. If the woke police are watching racing, they might be more concerned at the paucity of BAME and openly gay jockeys. Especially Asian, perhaps, given the number of grooms from the subcontinent.

My impression is that, right now, extra measures to boost women jockeys are not needed. If they are needed, then I'd favour more direct action, such as imposing a minimum quota on large stables (or owners) rather than mess around with indirect measures like allowances.
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