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By:
duffy
When: 18 Nov 20 17:18
The conspiracy theorists can't have it both ways.

You can't think the pics have been slowed as part of a conspiracy because if that were true, the black-outs would be counter productive.

You can believe one or the other if you must but not both.

If I'm slowing the pics or if they are slowed regardless and I've got faster pics I'm not then blacking them out because that wouldn't be needed, you'd want your victims to have access to the bait.
By:
greenteethnarrabacktroutmoy
When: 18 Nov 20 17:22
if they are been being done deliberately you'd want those behind to be putting £ into the cistern..surely?
By:
Wesdag
When: 18 Nov 20 17:32

Nov 18, 2020 -- 5:18PM, duffy wrote:


The conspiracy theorists can't have it both ways.You can't think the pics have been slowed as part of a conspiracy because if that were true, the black-outs would be counter productive.You can believe one or the other if you must but not both.If I'm slowing the pics or if they are slowed regardless and I've got faster pics I'm not then blacking them out because that wouldn't be needed, you'd want your victims to have access to the bait.


As you say, faster pics are only an advantage if the vast majority are using slower pics.

Blackouts won't induce anyone to bet unless you're a compulsive, fobt type.

By:
Writz
When: 18 Nov 20 17:33
Duffy explain to me why at the first chase today at Ffos Lass the pictures became fked after the first race was perfect and every time they went to jump a fence the picture froze until they were clear of the fence and the same happened at Hexham when the only faller of a race was the only time the picture paused I don’t know why it happens or if anyone is making money out of us but I do know there has been countless times when this has happened especially at the last fence and picture returns to normal once the outcome of the winner is in no doubt I’ve been doing in IR many years and this really is becoming unplayable at times there has always been people ahead but all I ask is for a smooth picture on BLV surely this is not a lot to ask for and surely anyone whatever your opinions can see what BLV is serving up to us the punters is not good enough especially when I’m paying them 20 percent commission
By:
duffy
When: 18 Nov 20 17:49
We can all agree that the product is poor but to look for patterns to suit a conspiracy theory is far fetched, to think that someone is sat there pressing a button to black out screens here and there seems crazy to me.

You're basically accusing them of defrauding their customers.
By:
11kv
When: 18 Nov 20 17:50
Shocked
By:
greenteethnarrabacktroutmoy
When: 18 Nov 20 17:54
there are people with virtually live pics at virtually ev track..makes no difference if somnething falls..you'll rarely lay it. Certainly not something leading trading short.
By:
Writz
When: 18 Nov 20 17:57
Well Duffy somebody is doing something or it wouldn’t happen would it and you can’t blame people for wondering what’s going on you cannot advertise on national tv about in running betting then offer the customer a service that doesn’t allow a level playing field and you surely you can see what we all see I’m not posting to make friends I’m posting in hope this shambles gets sorted open your eyes and see what the vast majority of us see day in day out a fkn shambles
By:
greenteethnarrabacktroutmoy
When: 18 Nov 20 18:01
90% of sall the pro in runners i know are now struggling..tells you all you need to know..there wont be many in this forum winning long term betting ir on blv. Fact.
By:
duffy
When: 18 Nov 20 18:07
writz,

It is a shambles but I'm not thinking someone is defrauding me, the product is shoite because they aren't bothered about providing the service to a decent standard.

It isn't a conspiracy it is simply indifference to the I/R side of the game.

You think that they are openly defrauding you do you?
By:
Writz
When: 18 Nov 20 18:23
I don’t think they should be allowed to advertise IR betting when the product they are serving up does not allow a level playing field are you a Betfair spokesman in disguise and why do you not agree something is drastically wrong at the moment just listen to the comments of how many people are really struggling at the moment we have not all become bad players overnight surely even you can see this wake up man and face facts this is a fkn disgrace
By:
duffy
When: 18 Nov 20 18:28
You believe BF are defrauding you then?
By:
duffy
When: 18 Nov 20 18:30
I'll say again, the product is shoite, there should be a level playing field for all, but we've had this problem for 20 years apart from the red button days.

The fact that it is how it is is down to indifference not anything more sinister. IMO
By:
pablo-fanque
When: 18 Nov 20 18:31
90% of sall the pro in runners i know are now struggling

what reason do they give willie ?

no facetime
poor liquidity
no going on course

something else ?
By:
Writz
When: 18 Nov 20 18:33
Yes I do it’s a fkn shambles so sort it out
By:
ItsMeSwaddle
When: 18 Nov 20 19:00

Nov 18, 2020 -- 5:33PM, Writz wrote:


Duffy explain to me why at the first chase today at Ffos Lass the pictures became fked after the first race was perfect and every time they went to jump a fence the picture froze until they were clear of the fence and the same happened at Hexham when the only faller of a race was the only time the picture paused I don’t know why it happens or if anyone is making money out of us but I do know there has been countless times when this has happened especially at the last fence and picture returns to normal once the outcome of the winner is in no doubt I’ve been doing in IR many years and this really is becoming unplayable at times there has always been people ahead but all I ask is for a smooth picture on BLV surely this is not a lot to ask for and surely anyone whatever your opinions can see what BLV is serving up to us the punters is not good enough especially when I’m paying them 20 percent commission


Heavy thud on the floor disrupting the airwaves Cool

"you cant have it both ways"

Is it possible its terrible in the first place, as in slow because the technology just isnt there and....

Then add to this someone is causing blackouts imo, maybe crazy ok, I get it sounds it.

Think of it like this.

Hexham today.  they are going 4miles, this is what, 8-9 mins worth?  Stream on a minute before the race so lets say we have 600 seconds worth of streaming, all perfect BAR just after the last fence to 1/2F out ish.

What is the chances if you are going to black out its gunna be in the 15 seconds from over the last to the line, pretty slim 40/1.

Plumpton Monday, crucial fences, IE the wun at the top of the hill, constantly being blacked out every chase race.

Ffos Las today a couple of races the stream was magically very sticky around all fences BUT ONLY THEM BITS ConfusedLaugh

One thing I dont think was purposefully done is blacking out the fav pulling up at Plumpton monday, someone already pointed it out, why wouldnt you just hoover every penny up if you knew it was going to happen? I just put that down to poor service.

The are causing the blackout when something is likely to happen IE NECK AND NECK 1f to go, something will change in the 2 seconds blacked. Or a crucial time of the race whenever that is.

By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 18 Nov 20 20:31
pablo-fanque 18 Nov 20 19:31 
90% of sall the pro in runners i know are now struggling

what reason do they give willie ?

quite simple pabs..the advantage is gone.
By:
pablo-fanque
When: 18 Nov 20 20:34
cheers
By:
dustybin
When: 19 Nov 20 09:16
By ‘struggling’, is that relative to past indulgences or risk of exiting the game?
If pic speeds alone is the nature of their USP then they can only assume as the gap reduces so would profits.

I’m a firm believer that if this phenix technology becomes the norm for British racing then BF have a duty to start advertising the gamification of IR gambling.

But the outlook doesn’t look good, BF seem scared to spend money or innovate today and the political environment seem to be closer to contracting the industry rather than allowing it to prosper.
By:
DixiEnormus
When: 19 Nov 20 13:40

Nov 18, 2020 -- 6:01PM, greenteethnarrabacktroutmoy wrote:


90% of sall the pro in runners i know are now struggling..tells you all you need to know..there wont be many in this forum winning long term betting ir on blv. Fact.


So out of the 10% of pro in-runners still smashing it up. Is Dixi in the gold medal position ?    oi oi CoolLove

By:
greenteethnarrabacktroutmoy
When: 19 Nov 20 13:43
are you still renting a property?
By:
dustybin
When: 19 Nov 20 13:47
Yeah as its at least twice the value as that semi you live in.
My money is invested, retrned more than 40% this year alone.
By:
greenteethnarrabacktroutmoy
When: 19 Nov 20 13:50
wernt talking to you.
By:
greenteethnarrabacktroutmoy
When: 19 Nov 20 13:52
currently bank saving interest rates 0.1%..you're getting 40%..

is this on ricardo's island?
By:
dustybin
When: 19 Nov 20 13:53
Amazon when lockdown was announced.
Money for old rope
By:
dustybin
When: 19 Nov 20 13:55
Steve you are becoming a seriously crabby bstard. You need to be more specific who you are aiming a volley at.
By:
greenteethnarrabacktroutmoy
When: 19 Nov 20 13:59
im a realist.
By:
DixiEnormus
When: 19 Nov 20 14:05

Nov 19, 2020 -- 1:43PM, greenteethnarrabacktroutmoy wrote:


are you still renting a property?


I do indeed rent my 7 bedroom property, however i receive 5k a month from the council therefore weather i or the tax payer pays my rent in up for debate. Love

By:
greenteethnarrabacktroutmoy
When: 19 Nov 20 14:16
generally people rent as they cant afford the said property that they are living in..
By:
DixiEnormus
When: 19 Nov 20 14:24
rent payments are generally more than the mortgage payments. its a matter of getting a mortgage rather than affordability. banks tend not to entertain pro gamblers :>)
By:
greenteethnarrabacktroutmoy
When: 19 Nov 20 14:26
they arnt bothered if you pay cash Wink
By:
greenteethnarrabacktroutmoy
When: 19 Nov 20 14:29
im suprised you two aint got your own runways.
By:
dustybin
When: 19 Nov 20 14:30
You wouldnt get a garage for 150k around here
By:
duffy
When: 19 Nov 20 14:31
greenteethnarrabacktroutmoy 19 Nov 20 14:52 
currently bank saving interest rates 0.1%..you're getting 40%..

is this on ricardo's island?


Yes bossGrin
By:
DixiEnormus
When: 19 Nov 20 14:54

Nov 19, 2020 -- 2:29PM, greenteethnarrabacktroutmoy wrote:


im suprised you two aint got your own runways.


That,s a great idea, then betfair can flying my gold medal Cool

By:
greenteethnarrabacktroutmoy
When: 19 Nov 20 15:05
greenteethnarrabacktroutmoy 19 Nov 20 14:52
currently bank saving interest rates 0.1%..you're getting 40%..

typo duffy..its actually 0.01% Surprised
By:
dustybin
When: 19 Nov 20 15:15
Income Bonds with H&SI paid around 1.2% (shrewdies knew)
Stocks are where money is made not bank accounts, if you know what you are doing.
Ill give you a freebie
Keep an eye on the vaccines, all 'real world' stocks will be undervalued once the tech stocks fully move over to them.
You will actually find it hard not to pick a winner
By:
dustybin
When: 19 Nov 20 15:18
Coke Cola for the newbies will be a pretty safe investment imo
By:
DixiEnormus
When: 19 Nov 20 15:21
greenteeth would never invest in COKE cola  Grin
By:
ItsMeSwaddle
When: 19 Nov 20 15:22
Thanks for the advice, I’ll buy a few cans.

Full fat or diet?
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