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WHOKNOWSTHEBOWLER
06 Aug 20 12:57
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Perfect Times 6/4f...another Mark Johnston favourite beaten. A year ago I started noting Mark Johnston's beaten favourites. What is amazing is the number of odds on favourites he has that are beaten, it's a bigger percentage than even just favourites he has beaten. Even more amazing is the fact that they are never asked for an explanation by the stewards.
Simple mathematics tells you an odds on favourite has more chance of winning than not - so why aren't these investigated - integrity and all that ?
I think the stewards for some reason are scared of Johnson, or maybe they  just say, " sculduggery? Oh definitley not , we have seen his horseboxes going up and down the M1 they even say "always trying" on the back!"
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Report alwaysone August 6, 2020 1:01 PM BST
Joe fanning drawn on rail and ends up halfway across the track...he was trying ok
Report Storm Alert August 6, 2020 1:10 PM BST
Simple mathematics tells you an odds on favourite has more chance of winning than not.

Err no, logic like that is a quick route to the poorhouse. There are many odds-on bets that have little chance of winning; it's just punters didn't know that beforehand for some reason.

I do agree that Johnson has a terrible record with favourites then winning the race. My guess is he doesn't really have a clue about placement and just goes for a scattergun approach. Over the years it has paid me to just ignore his horses and concentrate on other runners at better prices. I can't remember many occasions when he has done me by his favourite winning the race.
Report dave1357 August 6, 2020 1:42 PM BST
A year ago I started noting Mark Johnston's beaten favourites. What is amazing is the number of odds on favourites he has that are beaten, it's a bigger percentage than even just favourites he has beaten.


UK STATS FROM 06/08/19 BF SP

flat turf odds on last year 15/26
flat turf favs excluding above 22/92

flat aw odds on last year 6/11
flat aw favs excluding above 23/59
Report stridingedge August 6, 2020 1:45 PM BST
dave this is the 2nd time so far since the restart on this topic. Cry
Report matso August 6, 2020 1:57 PM BST
Horrible yard ..many examples over the seasons of his horses winning like champions then running as if they are drunk on the next outing .. the yard is totally unreadable .. Johnston as the media fawning all over him and no one will question the in and out form of his horses .. I try to give the stable a massive swerve.
Report Mr Myxlplyx August 6, 2020 2:01 PM BST
Following the race, the Veterinary Officer reported that PERFECT TIMES, placed fourth, had bled from the nose.
Report Storm Alert August 6, 2020 3:20 PM BST
Dave is that Johnson stats? If you don't mind I would be interested to know how for instance he compares to Gosden?
Report dave1357 August 6, 2020 4:00 PM BST
flatstats playing up a bit, can't do that atm
Report dave1357 August 6, 2020 4:05 PM BST
oops helps if you spell the names correctly

turf flat uk bfsp last year

favs odds on 25/42
favs odds against 35/89

cba doing AW
Report hulk23 August 6, 2020 4:16 PM BST
they don't get beat when you give them an easy time up front (don't tell any jockeys, they've not noticed Wink)
Report Tiger Tiger August 6, 2020 4:26 PM BST
Another MJ shortie in the next at Bath, will you oppose it?
Report hulk23 August 6, 2020 4:38 PM BST
at the prices i've gone dubai instinct, hope they're not just going to sit there & watch the johnstone make all ..
Report dave1357 August 6, 2020 4:38 PM BST
I wouldn't win lay it as its form justifies its price imo - I might lay it for a bit in the 3 to be placed market as it is very short and there is a chance it might not have recovered from goodwood and bath's firm going can sometimes affect horses that seem to handle g-f.
Report Ramruma August 6, 2020 4:46 PM BST
I've opposed Overwrite in the 4.40. Can't see why it is so short.
Report Tiger Tiger August 6, 2020 4:47 PM BST
Another one bites the dust.
Report hulk23 August 6, 2020 4:47 PM BST
good call dave, hollies beat the johnstone, didn't let it dominate.
Report dave1357 August 6, 2020 4:49 PM BST
yep lovely when one of those works out
Report sparrow August 6, 2020 4:49 PM BST
64/1 winner of the race too

36            £1,115       
38            £787       
40            £417       
42            £379       
44            £242       
46            £156       
48            £128       
50            £257       
55            £525       
60            £919       
65            £926    £701    £45,635
70            £301       
75            £0       
80            £1       
85            £4    Shocked
Report Ramruma August 6, 2020 4:50 PM BST
OK so the race was half over by the time that post appeared, and I was not banking on Clem A to win.

But Overwrite was 4/7 and not even top-rated.
Report suffolkpunch August 7, 2020 10:30 AM BST
'Always trying'. To do what exactly? Answers on a postcard, please.
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