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By:
Pilsudski
When: 17 Jul 20 12:05
Davix.........
By:
ribero1
When: 17 Jul 20 12:09
Don Butler still about.
By:
onlooker
When: 17 Jul 20 12:26
Yes - We had a long Thread on Don Butler - aka Cubone  - aka Lukehart (his son's Forum account, I imagine)

Somebody posted that he was still scheming.  Happy
By:
jumper3
When: 17 Jul 20 14:15
Thanks for that. Nice to hear. Never met the guy unless for all I know I may have done as I was regularly at all the big courses close to London, during the late 70s until about 1990. You'd see the same faces then on course.
By:
onlooker
When: 17 Jul 20 14:23
He used to bet 'The Away Meetings' - jumper3
By:
stewarts rise
When: 17 Jul 20 14:30
Don't think you could call Dons activities Betting! More like daylight robbery!GrinBut i do like him.
By:
punchestown
When: 17 Jul 20 14:31
Whenever I read anything Alan Charnier put up as it was so polite, and posh. Terry Thomas in his pomp sprang to mind, outwardly a gentleman, in reality, a complete Bounder

And a penchant for the finest wines and champagnes.Moved to Macau when last heard of?
By:
screaming from beneaththewaves
When: 17 Jul 20 14:39
I just got fed up with having to re=read every sentence Butler posted here about four times to overcome the spelling errors.

I think you had to be blessed with an uncompromising Brummie accent to make any sense of it. Ow bin ya.
By:
jumper3
When: 17 Jul 20 14:51

Jul 17, 2020 -- 2:23PM, onlooker wrote:


He used to bet 'The Away Meetings' - jumper3


Then it may well have been him. It was the year of Khayhasi's Derby. 1988. I had won a lot of money for what I was used to, on the first that day. It was the Woodcote. A horse called Snow Surprise. SP was 33/1. Took 20s. Oh dear. A winner's a winner though.

I had another tip, on one of the away meetings but could only find one bookie at Epsom. As far as I was concerned I had my own staking plan which means the bookie had to work out my winnings in his head. He did this while at the same time looking at me as if I was a complete idiot. I never saw him again that day, as I had no need to return to him. The confidence I had about this 4/6 shot at an away meeting, was totally misguided as it lost. Thankfully my betting grew into a more considered and measured activity, the older I became.

By:
screaming from beneaththewaves
When: 17 Jul 20 15:05
Butler/cubone had a long-running feud with Fremantle/freebooter, all the way from their racecourse days in the Midlands. Like all regular racegoers of the time, Fremantle was unhappy about the thieving odds Butler fleeced the public with on the aways, while Butler himself didn't feel that that was anyone's business but his own.

It came to a head one frozen afternoon at Worcester. As it was the only remaining domestic meeting, Butler was left with no aways to bet on. So, in order to help him out, Fremantle went and stood next to Butler's empty joint and bellowed, "'Oory oop! They're goin' be'oind at Tooorfontaaaaaaaaaayne!" At which point Butler came the closest I've ever seen to a human being spontaneously combusting.

The brilliant thing was the way Butler continued the vendetta on here years afterwards, regularly reminding us how he might have "born in the gutter", but would always be considerably classier than you.
By:
flapper
When: 17 Jul 20 15:16
Ocean Finance
By:
onlooker
When: 17 Jul 20 15:17
Which character did he audition for in Peaky Blinders.  Happy
By:
Early Morning Riser
When: 17 Jul 20 21:12
Those were the days on here, some good guys have come and gone. I remember a few of the users of the racing forum would go over too chit chat after racing had finished just to wind them up over there, many times we left there gone 1am.
By:
glentoby
When: 17 Jul 20 22:29
Such a contrived load of bollox about the "Early Days" eg the "Good Old Days".The fact is it was like a playground for so called "Professionals" to try and outdo each other.As Ryanwe once said "It is like a playground full of ten year old kids trying to outswear each other"

The Forum was progressing and evolving extremely well until the Racing Post took exception and particularly Mary Millington started to complain about the freedom of speech and honest opinion affecting his bottom line and advertisers?

One of their biggest,one of the biggest CONS in the history of "Journalism" allowed a free reign on the Forum because of the spend and Mary's influence on the policing by so called "Management" of the Forum?

Name the guilty if you dare but do not worry about retribution,the evidence is CAST IRON!!!!WinkWink
By:
Tiger Tiger
When: 17 Jul 20 22:36
Well then you should have left as well ydc.
By:
chavman
When: 17 Jul 20 22:40
All cotton wool fairytale nostalgia.

All the decent stuff went with the restricted entry and subsequent banning.
By:
glentoby
When: 17 Jul 20 22:41
That is where things changed Tiger,Keyboard warriors with massive personal issues crept in and had to have multiple user names?LaughLaughWinkWink
By:
glentoby
When: 17 Jul 20 22:42
Well said Chav,hit the nail on the head.CoolCool
By:
chavman
When: 17 Jul 20 22:44
No one can say f all for fear of offending someone and that is why litigation proceedings are ongoing forcing the suspension of chit chat
By:
Tiger Tiger
When: 17 Jul 20 22:47
Most of those banned were banned for good reason?
By:
chavman
When: 17 Jul 20 22:49
As for the article..let’s not live in the past when the parameters and culture were somewhat different to now please.
By:
glentoby
When: 17 Jul 20 22:49
How many were YOU?  No point lying btw!!!
By:
Tiger Tiger
When: 17 Jul 20 22:55
How many were you Laugh
By:
glentoby
When: 17 Jul 20 23:03
NONE that were not made obvious and solely for exposing frauds!!!! And only one banned btw and down to the Racing Post who objected to £100K losses that were alleged my allegations would cost them.Mary Millington did not not fancy a Court Appearance but never actually retracted his/her accusation of "Picking on my paper"LaughLaugh
By:
Tiger Tiger
When: 17 Jul 20 23:05
Mary Millington Laugh so you were a porn dwarf then?
By:
chavman
When: 17 Jul 20 23:48
You could offer to meet people in car parks for a tear up back then...so how can you compare that to now
By:
chavman
When: 17 Jul 20 23:50
Rose tinted glasses by people who obviously still read but don’t contribute
By:
chavman
When: 17 Jul 20 23:53
I’ve read a lot of those old threads and they were pretty dire
By:
Platinum
When: 17 Jul 20 23:55
Years ago at this hour of night the discussion was about the next days rscing, backing or laying. It was normally a fruitful discussion but the forum has been taken over by the 'I know everything' brigade, who offer nothing but promise everything.
By:
leif
When: 18 Jul 20 00:08
Could well be a discussion on a future Fred Platinum. Where will the future exchange players direct their attention?
By:
hello :-)
When: 18 Jul 20 00:11
i remember them nites platinum , quite colourful i recall

great period for this forum that , font of knowledge and a semi decent post easily hit 300 replies in no time , mostly insults tbh Laugh

personally i think there was a massiv drop out same time the format first changed didnt recover after , may be wrong tho
By:
Platinum
When: 18 Jul 20 00:15
The 'abuse' in those days was more welcome, in that everyone knew that the 'abuse' was just the same as  of lads have a chat in the pub..........
By:
Platinum
When: 18 Jul 20 00:17
Or, on some cases, after the pubs had shut!...........
By:
hello :-)
When: 18 Jul 20 00:19
Laugh
By:
peckerdunne
When: 18 Jul 20 00:34
In those days there was a market when you woke up,before 10 am.
By:
xmoneyx
When: 18 Jul 20 01:24
sedgefield racecourse will always be in my memory

punter came home to find boss up his wifes backside

a brilliant write up follows Wink
By:
the old nanny ;-)
When: 18 Jul 20 02:31
Forums were different class , the banter and people ripping each other was Different , some threads were classic comedy ......

Dog Forum

poker forum

Were also brilliant

The demise of the Poker forum was unreal Plain
By:
chavman
When: 18 Jul 20 07:23
Obviously nostalgia isn’t as good as it used to be if you like a good moan about everything and are generally a miserable bastid
By:
MJK
When: 18 Jul 20 09:26
Seems some of the contributors in that piece assume they're above us mere mortals when it comes to punting. Honestly, does anyone on the forum not think they would punt just as successfully as the likes of Williams?
By:
G Hall
When: 18 Jul 20 10:32
Good point MJK when you think about it, every betting shop in the country had a Matt Williams and Derek McGovern type character in it.
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