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£50k would not keep many in luxury for a month,not even a week.Any trading done on here for that race is 100% legit Big Cat?
Not even 1.01...........NO OFFERS...........somebody fukced up yes..........BUT no betting Conspiracy to be SNIFFED........NAP. HTH |
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^^^ agreed dave
We're just speculating, but I wouldn't be ruling anything out If that weight was dropped by accident, it will be recoverable (especially BCD), so where is it?? |
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Happy to agree to disagree
I tried valiantly to back Hortzadar, but my BF LV was half hour of the pace, so I was unsuccessful. Happy days ![]() |
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Ate they not weighing in and out in the paddock now? Even less places, if it was the weight cloth to go amiss.
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nolan said that he noticed there was no weight cloth as soon as he took off the saddle.
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How much was shared between the jockey,trainer,stable hands and do not forget the owners..........ALL risking being WARNED OFF?
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nolan wouldn't have to know about it, o'meara wasn't there. Why should the owners be in on it?
This has happened several times - no one has been warned off. No one is saying that THIS incident was a scam. Just that it is a temptation that should be stopped by changing the rules. |
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Temptation FOR WHAT DAVE FFS? £50K is not enough to keep my boat floating for a year!!!!! There is NO WRONGDOING FFS..........someone messed up and that is all.The trainer or Jockey will suffer consequences,maybe both unless they can explain.That is ALL.......FFS most of us have lost money due to a betting scam,some have won unknowingly e.g Flockton Grey.
Are you suggesting destroying a jockeys career,a trainers business and losing all the employees their jobs because of a missing weight cloth? ![]() ![]() |
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did you even read my 9.33 post?
Why would any of that happen? |
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I did Dave,still looking for the conspiracy and the reasoning?
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Well I suggest you read it again.
Why would nolan have his career destroyed when he didn't saddle the horse? Why would o'meara who wasn't there have his business ruined? betfair just need to void all in running bets when the winner is dq'd for weighing in light. It isn't a big issue. |
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Not for me to decide wwwww..........Who What Where When Why so why should Betfair Void legitimate bets on this race?
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Bottom line is Caveat Emptor and T&Cs?
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Big Nose Dave used to have a Bote
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the entire race is tainted because the weights are wrong. Betfair voids all bets on dog racing if a dog is withdrawn because the nature of the race has changed.
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So those paid out on the promoted winner have to give their winnings back and ditto the ew place collectors with the books as well as BF? The books btw,some pay 1st PP regardless of amended? What is achieved by voiding a legit race where somebody messed up?
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If you lost may I suggest a Quick fix? Harvest Moon.........Flavian Prat at evs then all happy?
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betfair have made the rule to let in-running and pre-race bets stand , but , they should do a survey as to what the customers would prefer imo as they are the ones taking the risk
for me pre race stands in-running cancelled as the liabilities can be much greater and it's not fair on someone laying the second imo |
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No bookmaker anywhere pays first past the post, on a winner that weighs in light.
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What happens if they weigh in heavy Dealer?
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Btw Flavian PRAT weighed in spot on and BF and books also weighed in so hope you all had some at 5/4?
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No bookmaker anywhere pays first past the post, on a winner that weighs in light.
if that's a reply to me TD , i meant all pre race bets stand after the one weighing in light is thrown out |
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You tell me, you are never wrong are you ?
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It was to GT
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Dan Skelton.............."He ain't heavy,he's my brother"
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What happens if they weigh in heavy Dealer?
think the jockey can get a ban , but they have a pound or so leeway for rain soaked clothes and saddle |
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It was tongue in cheek Pablo,no harm meant.
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What happens if they weigh in heavy Dealer?
Usually down to all the sh1te you talk being dumped in the jocks saddle cloth. |
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Well done Rooster,as always a helpful insight into the mystic world of regulation of a sport about which you are Kloo Less like the other trolls 24/7?
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Only you tobyjughead could defend the process of weighing in light
Blatantly clear not a level playing field IR Missing your tongue up arris supporters ? |
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Your countless losses show you to be the fantasist you really are, but you sweep them under the carpet and only sing and gloat when you get an odd winner.
You beat Mart hands down for betting on any old sh1te and that's saying something. But you already know that. |
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Defending what exactly madhatters? The fact there is no conspiracy and those responsible will be dealt with?
Unlike you I was getting the scum removed from here and defending punters when it was needed? |
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Welcome to open debate and opinion Rooster,now quantify and Qualify your ranting? BTW you look like a seething mess of jealousy!!!!?
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for the umpteenth time - no one is saying THIS was a scam. They are just saying that the in running leverage available in this scenario should be removed for reasons of integrity (and fair play).
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glentoby 03 Jul 20 22:09
So those paid out on the promoted winner have to give their winnings back and ditto the ew place collectors with the books as well as BF? The books btw,some pay 1st PP regardless of amended? What is achieved by voiding a legit race where somebody messed up? Out of the mouth of idiots AS Dave says - Integrity |
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Steve has surpassed recent figures and VWD,ITV cannot come near a net like this for expanded viewing figures.
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CarlisleIntroducing Racing TV Handicap Hurdle (Div II) 17/02/20
(Class 4) (0-105, 4yo+) 2m1f Inner Soft 10 hurdles The Clerk of the Scales objected to the winner, BINGO D’OLIVATE (FR), ridden by Brian Hughes, and trained by James Ewart on the grounds of the rider weighing in at 11st having weighed out at 11st 5lbs. BINGO D’OLIVATE (FR) was disqualified and the placings were revised as follows: 1st DEQUALL, 2nd BALLYDONAGH BOY (IRE), 3rd EMISSAIRE (FR) and 4th NOTWHATIAM (IRE). The rider, the trainer, the trainer’s representative, a member of Racecourse Management, the Raceday Assistant and the Clerk of the Scales were interviewed. Hughes was suspended for 3 days as he had failed to draw the correct weight. James Ewart was fined £750 as the cause of the weight loss could not be established. At a subsequent enquiry it turned out that Hughes had weighed out correctly but when the horse was saddled the weight cloth was mistakenly left off. James Ewart's wife was eventually found responsible after she owned up and had tried to cover up the mistake by placing it on the walkway on the way back to the winners enclosure Security footage shows her removing the weight cloth from under a horse blanket and placing it on the horse walkway. |
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if it was deliberate how do you guarantee you win the race?
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