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By:
glentoby
When: 03 Jul 20 20:30
£50k would not keep many in luxury for a month,not even a week.Any trading done on here for that race is 100% legit Big Cat?

Not even 1.01...........NO OFFERS...........somebody fukced up yes..........BUT no betting Conspiracy to be SNIFFED........NAP. HTH
By:
Big Cat
When: 03 Jul 20 20:31
^^^ agreed dave
We're just speculating, but I wouldn't be ruling anything out

If that weight was dropped by accident, it will be recoverable (especially BCD), so where is it??
By:
Big Cat
When: 03 Jul 20 20:35
Happy to agree to disagree
I tried valiantly to back Hortzadar, but my BF LV was half hour of the pace, so I was unsuccessful. Happy days Cool
By:
the dealer
When: 03 Jul 20 20:37
Ate they not weighing in and out in the paddock now? Even less places, if it was the weight cloth to go amiss.
By:
dave1357
When: 03 Jul 20 20:40
nolan said that he noticed there was no weight cloth as soon as he took off the saddle.
By:
glentoby
When: 03 Jul 20 20:45
How much was shared between the jockey,trainer,stable hands and do not forget the owners..........ALL risking being WARNED OFF?
By:
dave1357
When: 03 Jul 20 21:33
nolan wouldn't have to know about it, o'meara wasn't there.  Why should the owners be in on it?

This has happened several times - no one has been warned off.

No one is saying that THIS incident was a scam.  Just that it is a temptation that should be stopped by changing the rules.
By:
glentoby
When: 03 Jul 20 21:41
Temptation FOR WHAT DAVE FFS?  £50K is not enough to keep my boat floating for a year!!!!! There is NO WRONGDOING FFS..........someone messed up and that is all.The trainer or Jockey will suffer consequences,maybe both unless they can explain.That is ALL.......FFS most of us have lost money due to a betting scam,some have won unknowingly e.g Flockton Grey.

Are you suggesting destroying a jockeys career,a trainers business and losing all the employees their jobs because of a missing weight cloth?SadCrazy
By:
the.mad.dog.man
When: 03 Jul 20 21:42
pmsl
By:
dave1357
When: 03 Jul 20 21:44
did you even read my 9.33 post?

Why would any of that happen?
By:
glentoby
When: 03 Jul 20 21:47
I did Dave,still looking for the conspiracy and the reasoning?
By:
dave1357
When: 03 Jul 20 21:49
Well I suggest you read it again.

Why would nolan have his career destroyed when he didn't saddle the horse?  Why would o'meara who wasn't there have his business ruined?

betfair just need to void all in running bets when the winner is dq'd for weighing in light.  It isn't a big issue.
By:
glentoby
When: 03 Jul 20 21:52
Not for me to decide wwwww..........Who What Where When Why so why should Betfair Void legitimate bets on this race?
By:
glentoby
When: 03 Jul 20 21:54
Bottom line is Caveat Emptor and T&Cs?
By:
the old nanny ;-)
When: 03 Jul 20 21:59
Big Nose Dave used to have a Bote
By:
dave1357
When: 03 Jul 20 22:01
the entire race is tainted because the weights are wrong.  Betfair voids all bets on dog racing if a dog is withdrawn because the nature of the race has changed.
By:
glentoby
When: 03 Jul 20 22:09
So those paid out on the promoted winner have to give their winnings back and ditto the ew place collectors with the books as well as BF? The books btw,some pay 1st PP regardless of amended? What is achieved by voiding a legit race where somebody messed up?
By:
glentoby
When: 03 Jul 20 22:11
If you lost may I suggest a Quick fix? Harvest Moon.........Flavian Prat at evs then all happy?CoolWink
By:
pablo-fanque
When: 03 Jul 20 22:11
betfair have made the rule to let in-running and pre-race bets stand , but , they should do a survey as to what the customers would prefer imo as they are the ones taking the risk

for me
pre race stands
in-running cancelled as the liabilities can be much greater and it's not fair on someone laying the second imo
By:
glentoby
When: 03 Jul 20 22:15
WinkCool
By:
the dealer
When: 03 Jul 20 22:15
No bookmaker anywhere pays first past the post, on a winner that weighs in light.
By:
glentoby
When: 03 Jul 20 22:18
What happens if they weigh in heavy Dealer?
By:
glentoby
When: 03 Jul 20 22:20
Btw Flavian PRAT weighed in spot on and BF and books also weighed in so hope you all had some at 5/4?WinkHappy
By:
pablo-fanque
When: 03 Jul 20 22:20
No bookmaker anywhere pays first past the post, on a winner that weighs in light.

if that's a reply to me TD , i meant all pre race bets stand after the one weighing in light is thrown out
By:
the dealer
When: 03 Jul 20 22:20
You tell me, you are never wrong are you ?
By:
the dealer
When: 03 Jul 20 22:21
It was to GT
By:
glentoby
When: 03 Jul 20 22:22
Dan Skelton.............."He ain't heavy,he's my brother"Tongue Out
By:
pablo-fanque
When: 03 Jul 20 22:22
What happens if they weigh in heavy Dealer?

think the jockey can get a ban , but they have a pound or so leeway for rain soaked clothes and saddle
By:
glentoby
When: 03 Jul 20 22:25
It was tongue in cheek Pablo,no harm meant.
By:
rooster booster
When: 03 Jul 20 22:26
What happens if they weigh in heavy Dealer?


Usually down to all the sh1te you talk being dumped in the jocks saddle cloth.
By:
glentoby
When: 03 Jul 20 22:30
Well done Rooster,as always a helpful insight into the mystic world of regulation of a sport about which you are Kloo Less like the other trolls 24/7?Cool
By:
madhatters
When: 03 Jul 20 22:32
Only you tobyjughead could defend the process of weighing in light
Blatantly clear not a level playing field IR

Missing your tongue up arris supporters ?
By:
rooster booster
When: 03 Jul 20 22:36
Your countless losses show you to be the fantasist you really are, but you sweep them under the carpet and only sing and gloat when you get an odd winner.

You beat Mart hands down for betting on any old sh1te and that's saying something.

But you already know that.
By:
glentoby
When: 03 Jul 20 22:38
Defending what exactly madhatters? The fact there is no conspiracy and those responsible will be dealt with?

Unlike you I was getting the scum removed from here and defending punters when it was needed?
By:
glentoby
When: 03 Jul 20 22:41
Welcome to open debate and opinion Rooster,now quantify and Qualify your ranting? BTW you look like a seething mess of jealousy!!!!?SadCry
By:
dave1357
When: 03 Jul 20 22:43
for the umpteenth time - no one is saying THIS was a scam.  They are just saying that the in running leverage available in this scenario should be removed for reasons of integrity (and fair play).
By:
madhatters
When: 03 Jul 20 22:49
glentoby 03 Jul 20 22:09 
So those paid out on the promoted winner have to give their winnings back and ditto the ew place collectors with the books as well as BF? The books btw,some pay 1st PP regardless of amended? What is achieved by voiding a legit race where somebody messed up?

Out of the mouth of idiots

AS Dave says - Integrity
By:
glentoby
When: 03 Jul 20 22:51
Steve has surpassed recent figures and VWD,ITV cannot come near a net like this for expanded viewing figures.LaughWink

Seething and Jealous but at least my bank swelled!!!CoolLaughWink

Don't forget domani,Forza Sardegna,Marco & Stefano!!!!!Wink
By:
kevo
When: 03 Jul 20 22:56
CarlisleIntroducing Racing TV Handicap Hurdle (Div II) 17/02/20

(Class 4) (0-105, 4yo+) 2m1f Inner Soft 10 hurdles
The Clerk of the Scales objected to the winner, BINGO D’OLIVATE (FR), ridden by Brian Hughes, and trained by James Ewart on the grounds of the rider weighing in at 11st having weighed out at 11st 5lbs. BINGO D’OLIVATE (FR) was disqualified and the placings were revised as follows: 1st DEQUALL, 2nd BALLYDONAGH BOY (IRE), 3rd EMISSAIRE (FR) and 4th NOTWHATIAM (IRE). The rider, the trainer, the trainer’s representative, a member of Racecourse Management, the Raceday Assistant and the Clerk of the Scales were interviewed. Hughes was suspended for 3 days as he had failed to draw the correct weight. James Ewart was fined £750 as the cause of the weight loss could not be established.

At a subsequent enquiry it turned out that Hughes had weighed out correctly but when the horse was saddled the weight cloth was mistakenly left off. James Ewart's wife was eventually found responsible after she owned up and had tried to cover up the mistake by placing it on the walkway on the way back to the winners enclosure Security footage shows her removing the weight cloth from under a horse blanket and placing it on the horse walkway.
By:
Willie Shafter.
When: 03 Jul 20 23:00
if it was deliberate how do you guarantee you win the race?
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