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Thanks Longbridge. I am not fishing at all.
Considering the jockey has weighed out at a particular weight - hands the saddle over to the trainer, assistant trainer or trainer's representative, my question was pretty much in the vein that someone must have knowledge or be responsible for the sudden disappearance of said lead or weight-cloth? (assuming it hasn't fallen off during the race) |
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Horse Racing: -£17,019.16 Total P&L: -£17,019.16
Horse Racing Showing 1 - 20 of 35 markets Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£) Horse Racing / Wolv 3rd Jul : 6f Hcap 03-Jul-20 18:30 03-Jul-20 18:36 31.04 Horse Racing / Ham 3rd Jul : 1m5f Hcap 03-Jul-20 18:20 03-Jul-20 18:24 22.06 Horse Racing / Navan 3rd Jul : 1m2f Hcap 03-Jul-20 18:10 03-Jul-20 18:15 32.05 Horse Racing / Wolv 3rd Jul : 7f Hcap 03-Jul-20 18:00 03-Jul-20 18:04 14.84 Horse Racing / Ham 3rd Jul : 1m Hcap 03-Jul-20 17:50 03-Jul-20 17:54 8.64 Horse Racing / Navan 3rd Jul : 5f Hcap 03-Jul-20 17:40 03-Jul-20 17:43 7.84 Horse Racing / Wolv 3rd Jul : 7f Mdn Stks 03-Jul-20 17:30 03-Jul-20 17:36 201.91 Horse Racing / Ham 3rd Jul : 1m Hcap 03-Jul-20 17:20 03-Jul-20 17:23 -17,719.44 Horse Racing / Wolv 3rd Jul : 1m Nov Stks 03-Jul-20 17:00 03-Jul-20 17:14 13.73 Horse Racing / Navan 3rd Jul : 6f Mdn 03-Jul-20 17:10 03-Jul-20 17:12 32.34 Horse Racing / Ham 3rd Jul : 1m Hcap 03-Jul-20 16:50 03-Jul-20 16:55 21.74 Horse Racing / Navan 3rd Jul : 6f Mdn 03-Jul-20 16:40 03-Jul-20 16:42 15.68 Horse Racing / Ham 3rd Jul : 6f Hcap 03-Jul-20 16:15 03-Jul-20 16:19 13.88 Horse Racing / Hayd 3rd Jul : 1m3f Hcap 03-Jul-20 16:00 03-Jul-20 16:05 2.35 Horse Racing / Chep 3rd Jul : 1m4f Hcap 03-Jul-20 15:50 03-Jul-20 15:53 8.23 Horse Racing / Ham 3rd Jul : 6f Nov Stks 03-Jul-20 15:40 03-Jul-20 15:43 37.05 Horse Racing / Hayd 3rd Jul : 7f Hcap 03-Jul-20 15:30 03-Jul-20 15:32 7.84 Horse Racing / Chep 3rd Jul : 2m Hcap 03-Jul-20 15:20 03-Jul-20 15:24 10.98 Horse Racing / Ham 3rd Jul : 6f Nov Stks 03-Jul-20 15:10 03-Jul-20 15:14 35.30 Horse Racing / Hayd 3rd Jul : 7f Nov Stks 03-Jul-20 15:00 03-Jul-20 15:04 21.02 |
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ffs
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ul there willie
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1.2 a willy wind up, 4's true
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apart from that did you enjoy your afternoon?
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a 3 day ban is an utter disgrace!!!!! (
given the same jockey failed to weighed in the other day) there have a few too many incidents with weigh in properly of late |
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Hand those gold medals back please WS
 Only kidding, sickner that one, nasty way to lose |
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if you did lose
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was it the 340 & 1000 button responsible?
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*or
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Horse Racing: £919.16 Total P&L: £919.16
Horse Racing Showing 1 - 20 of 35 markets Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£) Horse Racing / Wolv 3rd Jul : 6f Hcap 03-Jul-20 18:30 03-Jul-20 18:36 31.04 Horse Racing / Ham 3rd Jul : 1m5f Hcap 03-Jul-20 18:20 03-Jul-20 18:24 22.06 Horse Racing / Navan 3rd Jul : 1m2f Hcap 03-Jul-20 18:10 03-Jul-20 18:15 32.05 Horse Racing / Wolv 3rd Jul : 7f Hcap 03-Jul-20 18:00 03-Jul-20 18:04 14.84 Horse Racing / Ham 3rd Jul : 1m Hcap 03-Jul-20 17:50 03-Jul-20 17:54 8.64 Horse Racing / Navan 3rd Jul : 5f Hcap 03-Jul-20 17:40 03-Jul-20 17:43 7.84 Horse Racing / Wolv 3rd Jul : 7f Mdn Stks 03-Jul-20 17:30 03-Jul-20 17:36 201.91 Horse Racing / Ham 3rd Jul : 1m Hcap 03-Jul-20 17:20 03-Jul-20 17:23 19.44 Horse Racing / Wolv 3rd Jul : 1m Nov Stks 03-Jul-20 17:00 03-Jul-20 17:14 13.73 Horse Racing / Navan 3rd Jul : 6f Mdn 03-Jul-20 17:10 03-Jul-20 17:12 32.34 Horse Racing / Ham 3rd Jul : 1m Hcap 03-Jul-20 16:50 03-Jul-20 16:55 21.74 Horse Racing / Navan 3rd Jul : 6f Mdn 03-Jul-20 16:40 03-Jul-20 16:42 15.68 Horse Racing / Ham 3rd Jul : 6f Hcap 03-Jul-20 16:15 03-Jul-20 16:19 13.88 Horse Racing / Hayd 3rd Jul : 1m3f Hcap 03-Jul-20 16:00 03-Jul-20 16:05 2.35 Horse Racing / Chep 3rd Jul : 1m4f Hcap 03-Jul-20 15:50 03-Jul-20 15:53 8.23 Horse Racing / Ham 3rd Jul : 6f Nov Stks 03-Jul-20 15:40 03-Jul-20 15:43 37.05 Horse Racing / Hayd 3rd Jul : 7f Hcap 03-Jul-20 15:30 03-Jul-20 15:32 7.84 Horse Racing / Chep 3rd Jul : 2m Hcap 03-Jul-20 15:20 03-Jul-20 15:24 10.98 Horse Racing / Ham 3rd Jul : 6f Nov Stks 03-Jul-20 15:10 03-Jul-20 15:14 35.30 Horse Racing / Hayd 3rd Jul : 7f Nov Stks 03-Jul-20 15:00 03-Jul-20 15:04 21.02 Horse Racing > Ham 3rd Jul : 1m Hcap Showing 1 - 2 of 2 Selections Selection Odds Stake(£) Bid type Placed Profit/loss(£) Highest Mountain * 303.29 14.93 Lay 14.93 Storm Ahead 321.08 4.91 Lay 03-Jul-20 17:23 4.91 *Average odds: On Off Back subtotal: 0.00 Lay subtotal: 19.84 Market subtotal: 19.84 Commission @ 2.02%: 0.40 Net Market Total: 19.44 no flies on jd..  |
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we are waiting on rl now
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@whistlejacket
"my question was pretty much in the vein that someone must have knowledge or be responsible for the sudden disappearance of said lead or weight-cloth? " Responsible but not necessarily deliberately culpable - there have been all kinds of things in the past - mixing up the weights for two runners from the same stable, leaving the weight-cloth behind in the rush to saddle - none of it should happen but I wouldn't assume conspiracy over ****-up when it does. |
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I rather feel inclined towards Dave1357's line of questioning.
Anyhow, all history now, though perhaps not very amusing for those who had backed the horse or those who might have "layed" the promoted winner |
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Weighing in light lends itself to an avenue of corruption, for those inclined that way
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incredible how often its the winner.
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I don't think it's acceptable to conclude that 'the cause of the weight loss could not be established' in the immediate aftermath of the race, without proper and full investigation
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another way to get 1 beat
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If the Stewards don't put the jockey and connections through some serious pain for this, others in the Industry will look on and see easy £££ signs
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It is about time draconian fines in the £10k upwards bracket are dished out for occurrences like this, as they do in Asia or other jurisdictions. The racecourse, on raceday, is a trainer's place of work (or their appointed representative) If a trainer (or representative) can be so negligent or carefree to let this happen - either by design or accident - then they should face a pretty severe fine. Once, 2 or 3 of them have been hit with substantial fines, you will suddenly see it will most likely not happen again.
Weights from a weight cloth don't just simply disappear and are nowhere to be found on a racecourse with vetted attendees. Pity the poor owners (assuming they are seriously cheesed off) they have just been done out of over 6.5K on a horse that hasn't won any prize money since August 2019. |
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Will be referred and unless the trainer or jockey can explain,BIG penalties will follow.As to the conspiracy of getting a horse kicked out...........grow up FFS,the most ludicrous conspiracy theory since Lee Harvey Oswald and the Friggin Big Indian?
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Can't make accusations WRT this incident, but your view of the world is naive Mr Toby
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Explain Big Cat.............I can cite past experience re-Greg Chung,Oscar et al.Tell me or us your conspiracy theory that includes the deviants escaping punishment and losing any ill gotten gains?
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In other words.......nobody will benefit so where is the sense of intentionally winning and ensuring being kicked out,other than illegal or Asian Markets.........worth the jockeys licence or trainers for a Lifetime ban if proven the case?
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@glentoby if a regular IR player took £50k out of that market BF would be hard pressed to prove anything.
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^^^ Exactly
Although there is such a thing as 'irregular betting pattern'. A risky and criminal act. In the absence of serious deterrent, potentially viable |
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happens 4-5 times a year
just void in running and settle pre race , all the in running is essentially false Disgrace really that betfair dont have this protection for punters built in , its the stuff of comic books |
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void the whole lot imo
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Voiding the IR market (in this exact circumstance), would eliminate ideas of corruption
Personally, I don't think any 2nd placed horse is value when layed at 1000/1 Personally, I wouldn't lay big odds as I'm prone to occasional clicking errors |
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Dave and big cat,explain then how this was all organised and how £50K,traceable btw benefits anyone with the proceeds nailed on to be frozen?
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I've never layed 3 figures (odds) IR and I've never backed less than 1.09 IR
Clicking mistakes (and Stewards) eat into the wisdom of doing so |
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Btw BF "Hard pressed to prove anything"? LOL all BF have to do if called upon is supply the betting details.......no more and no less.
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You called ME naive Big Cat............would you like me to explain how idiots are caught?
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And btw why the conspiracy theories are stupid?
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glentoby, yes 50K would be tricky to sweep under the carpet
But then, how much was traded on Redarna at 'big prices? As I say, I'd be surprised if it hasn't been 'pulled off' in the past. Greed however, would be the enemy (as it always is) |
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@ big cat I specified "regular in running player" specifically to minimise the "irregular betting pattern" scrutiny. It would be pretty easy to invest £1k or £2k in 500+ backs and 1.01 lays to establish a pattern.
As I and others have said every time this happens - why not just void all in running? btw although I know this might be verging on conspiritard - those jocks not bothering to weigh in when down the field - who knows if they were carrying the correct weight? Maybe if they had won, we would have been discussing them as well? |
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Idiots would be caught because it's a criminal act and Betfair are responsible for revealing 'abnormal activity'
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glentoby do you think that there were bets struck on this race in running? Do you think they have all been frozen?
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