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White men CAN'T PUNT!!!! Just think about it?
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willie was that you who layed Ran Rite at 360 2 out?
yes..wrong colours..nck down and lay 360  |
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lucky
 i was so shocked at the price  |
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On the nail Steve,no helping though,all Neil Diamond..........Users!!!!!!!
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*340 button
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if i clicked after 1f i'd lay the price on screen..and i dont click 340 nr the line..pointless.
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As HH has said above, click earlier when horses don't look completely beat.
If you don't get fully matched then, you'll have a point. Why do you expect people to be backing horses which you think are totally beat hence your 340 & 1000 buttons? |
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Wesdag 25 Jun 20 13:13
As HH has said above, click earlier when horses don't look completely beat. That's blasphemy but perhaps needs must if it's getting harder to buy money these days! |
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Theres certainly a case for it.
Ive said many times the vine withers first at the ends. Drop the odds and get involved more, accept you will have losers but at least you aint sitting clipping bits from markets more and more. |
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wes i'll educate you as you seem relatively clueless..if you think you can lay horses when they are 'totally beat' then i suggest you have a go yourself.
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willie, how much are you trying to lay?
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£25, £50, £100?
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what prices foe each
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sweeping markets when you know you are on the fastest pics has its merits....but nobody can tell me there aint ppl using faster pics than RTV transmission right now.
Just got to get trickier and scrap it out in the trenches. |
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How much are you trying to lay & at what prices (roughly) ?
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gray give ya heed a shake man..its not faster pic people you are simply playing a robot.
Horse Racing > : 6f Nov Stks > Darvel Showing 1 - 20 of 36 Bets Selection Odds Stake (£) Liability (£) Bid type Placed Matched (GMT) Profit/loss (£) Darvel 95 1.00 Lay 25-Jun-20 13:17 25-Jun-20 13:17 1.00 Darvel 60 0.04 Lay 25-Jun-20 13:17 25-Jun-20 13:17 0.04 Darvel 48 2.00 Lay 25-Jun-20 13:17 25-Jun-20 13:17 2.00 Darvel 50 2.00 Lay 25-Jun-20 13:17 25-Jun-20 13:17 2.00 Darvel 270 0.85 Lay 25-Jun-20 13:17 25-Jun-20 13:17 0.85 Darvel 170 0.29 Lay 25-Jun-20 13:17 25-Jun-20 13:17 0.29 Darvel 48 0.20 Lay 25-Jun-20 13:17 25-Jun-20 13:17 0.20 Darvel 80 1.75 Lay 25-Jun-20 13:17 25-Jun-20 13:17 1.75 Darvel 130 0.50 Lay 25-Jun-20 13:17 25-Jun-20 13:17 0.50 Darvel 170 0.50 Lay 25-Jun-20 13:17 25-Jun-20 13:17 0.50 Darvel 210 0.50 Lay 25-Jun-20 13:17 25-Jun-20 13:17 0.50 Darvel 290 0.01 Lay 25-Jun-20 13:17 25-Jun-20 13:17 0.01 Darvel 290 0.01 Lay 25-Jun-20 13:17 25-Jun-20 13:17 0.01 Darvel 290 0.02 Lay 25-Jun-20 13:17 25-Jun-20 13:17 0.02 Darvel 290 0.06 Lay 25-Jun-20 13:17 25-Jun-20 13:17 0.06 Darvel 290 0.08 Lay 25-Jun-20 13:17 25-Jun-20 13:17 0.08 Darvel 290 0.09 Lay 25-Jun-20 13:17 25-Jun-20 13:17 0.09 Darvel 290 0.13 Lay 25-Jun-20 13:17 25-Jun-20 13:17 0.13 Darvel 70 0.20 Lay 25-Jun-20 13:17 25-Jun-20 13:17 0.20 Darvel 170 0.13 Lay 25-Jun-20 13:17 25-Jun-20 13:17 0.13 Darvel 290 0.41 Lay 25-Jun-20 13:17 25-Jun-20 13:17 0.41 Darvel 140 0.01 Lay 25-Jun-20 13:17 25-Jun-20 13:17 0.01 Darvel 95 0.50 Lay 25-Jun-20 13:17 25-Jun-20 13:17 0.50 Darvel 55 0.12 Lay 25-Jun-20 13:17 25-Jun-20 13:17 0.12 Darvel 90 0.44 Lay 25-Jun-20 13:17 25-Jun-20 13:17 0.44 Darvel 290 3.65 Lay 25-Jun-20 13:17 25-Jun-20 13:17 3.65 Darvel 290 7.00 Lay 25-Jun-20 13:17 25-Jun-20 13:17 7.00 Darvel 55 0.50 Lay 25-Jun-20 13:17 25-Jun-20 13:17 0.50 Darvel 100 0.50 Lay 25-Jun-20 13:17 25-Jun-20 13:17 0.50 Darvel 250 0.25 Lay 25-Jun-20 13:17 25-Jun-20 13:17 0.25 Darvel 100 0.01 Lay 25-Jun-20 13:17 25-Jun-20 13:17 0.01 Darvel 150 0.01 Lay 25-Jun-20 13:17 25-Jun-20 13:17 0.01 Darvel 200 0.01 Lay 25-Jun-20 13:17 25-Jun-20 13:17 0.01 Darvel 250 0.01 Lay 25-Jun-20 13:17 25-Jun-20 13:17 0.01 Darvel 48 0.72 Lay 25-Jun-20 13:17 25-Jun-20 13:17 0.72 Darvel 190 0.50 Lay 25-Jun-20 13:17 25-Jun-20 13:17 0.50 |
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the columns i use mainly are 95/£50 290/£25 990/£8..as ive just changed them.
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But its that way because you arnt actually winning anyone's money betting the selection you are laying.
Those fractioned odds are just how bf's crossmatcher presents the equivilent odds of the other selections, its spread out because bf attempt to make the market look full....like somebody with a combover...its just theres no money in the market when you click |
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Seems to be the case.
Need to get stuck in much lower down. How about try a 10/£50 button? |
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Willie Shafter. • June 25, 2020 2:09 PM BST
gray give ya heed a shake man..its not faster pic people you are simply playing a robot. No point you or the other track players going back to Newcastle then? |
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The bot has got the lot now
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its spread out because bf attempt to make the market look full
hurrah...correct..bot money..not real. |
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How about try a 10/£50 button?
pmsl..then you'd have to lay something a hd down 3 out. |
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yes, but you have to offer up crumbs to entice ppl in.
Like I said if you have an angle that means you can catch ppl who genuinely think it has a chance but they dont know it hasnt then you gunna collect If you havnt that option then you have to rough it out on the inside |
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That's where the liquidity is - requires decent race reading though.
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you watch the market..you see a hoss trading at say 20-30 ish..you click 290..its specifically designed to give you 2 bob at ev price up until you hit the overide..then it norm takes whats left..as apparent above.
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If it is all the bot now and not to do with speeds or anyone ahead of you
will you now be cancelling your box at newcastle? |
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Surely cannot say on one hand it's nout to do with speeds, it's the bot then pay thousands to get a speed advantage at the track
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there is still money at the front of the market for seconds until someone takes it..you cant do that behind people.
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horrah, so it is down to speeds then
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Wesdag 25 Jun 20 14:21
That's where the liquidity is - requires decent race reading though. |
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Not the case?
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100% theres some with faster pics at rtv tracks
Betfair should be all over this getting the .5 lv up and running pronto so it's far fairer for most if not all |
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james i'll educate you as you cant seem to grasp it..the bot is triggered by people trying to bet what looks the likely winner..thats why ev price vanishes in an instant when something looks the winner.
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of course theres always people with faster pics..thats why as a backer without it them you're a million.
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No, you cant seem to grasp it.
I'm well aware what the bot does. What you don't seem to get is that when you are behind some who are clicking around 1 second before you, the bot is matching them and you are left with the crumbs. Remove they people in front of you , you click before them you get matched better even by the bot, the bot gives them crumbs. If not the case then surely you wouldnt be going back to the track, paying thousands for that 1 to 1.5 seconds |
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Ws, wes is right, theres money in the markets, just not much dumb money to snatch
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Everyone was getting matched better 1st week after lockdown because they hadnt got their fast pics set up yet, it took them a week or 2 to get
a set up going. Now on rtv they are a good bit in front and are smashing into everything which is causing it to be hard getting matched late on I get the bot plays its part but on a level playing field the bot isnt a problem |