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Racing to returm May 1st.
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Hello are you factoring in what affect depression would have on the system.
Rightly or wrongly that people will die from it with your plan? (yes I know we are only sat at home allowed all of our luxuries) |
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effect.
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imagine what fighting in ww2 must have been like? in trenches for yrs,some in sub zero temps..would drive you insane
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imagine what fighting in ww2 must have been like? in trenches for yrs,some in sub zero temps..would drive you insane
Do you think they sat in the trenches wondering when death would come or wondering if horse racing would be back by May 1st like some of the DC's on here ? |
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swad there is no easy soloution and nobody will be free from the negative effects of the sacrifices
i just think the other option will cause depression that lasts a lifetime for UK , with this soloution i know things will eventually get better and i can look back knowing i did right things for the right reasons |
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ear ear..
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hello :-)12 Apr 20 12:41Joined: 09 Sep 09 | Topic/replies: 15,159 | Blogger: hello :-)'s blog
21 dead NHS tho you prob don't believe that either 1,500,000 people work in the nhs. Many are being exposed to this deadly virus far more intensely than most in this country. What is 21 as part of 1.5 million as a %? It is 0.000014% And these people are at most risk according to popular opinion! This is worth killing an economy over? Get a grip |
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very silly stats tbh and also wrong to trivialise any NHS deaths tbh
but go back to your calculator and figure out the percentage of deaths in relation to those who deal directly with covid , not all do |
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0.0014%
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obviously you can bet from your armchair if sport returns but unmtill there,s a vaccine that's proven to work cant see people queuing up to go to ,mass gatherings,football,racing,pubs, leisure shoppinbg,holidays eating out etc and even those that do will be wearing masks,gloves etc and be the self styled/appointed corona police to anyone who isn't doing the same,
we,ll get work,school,visiting family up and running again but feel the rest will be a slow return |
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Purposefully tried not to follow the news.
You'll have to explain to me something to me. So why would we be in full lockdown with any purpose for longer than a month? Theoretically the day before lockdown the virus was still spreading? - Think thats a fact. Lockdown is announced and is it also a fact you can carry the virus for 14 days MAX before showing any effect of having it? So theoretically if it takes you 14 days to feel symptoms MAX? Is it also a fact theoretically after 15 days if you haven't shown symptoms you either haven't got it or the effects were that mild you didnt notice? .... Say you become ill after 14 days...what is the max period you can take to perish or beat the virus? IE is it possible to have the virus for 17 odd days and still be unwell? So theoretically if after 17 days thats 1 month...making it pointless to use a lockdown for more than a 30 day period? |
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12 million(ish) children in the uk..12 million(ish) over 65's..thats leaves 40 million others of which 1.5 mill work for nhs..
which equates to 1 in ev 26 people are employed by the nhs? i think i know of 2. |
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hello :-)12 Apr 20 13:58Joined: 09 Sep 09 |og
very silly stats tbh and also wrong to trivialise any NHS deaths you call them silly stats and you accuse me of trivialising death? the stats are an indicator of what is going on you on the other hand see someone gasping for air on the 'telly' and that is all that's needed to go into full panic mode. carry on. I can't educate pork |
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very easy to sit there saying not that many NHS are dying tbh fire you have that luxury
im going to listen to the ones who actually are in the frontline tho if thats ok |
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don't take my word tho ask boris
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Willie Shafter.12 Apr 20 14:02Joined: 15 Jul 04 | Topic/replies: 36,131 | Blogger: Willie Shafter.'s blog
12 million(ish) children in the uk..12 million(ish) over 65's..thats leaves 40 million others of which 1.5 mill work for nhs.. which equates to 1 in ev 26 people are employed by the nhs? i think i know of 2. Good for you Willy  |
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which equates to 1 in ev 26 people are employed by the nhs?
walofs  |
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There are. I counted 'em.
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im ruling you out of the debate fire
your cavalier attitude towards death isn't clever or moral tbh |
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i konkerr wiv hello..
is it me you're looking for.. |
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You are ruling me out, lol
How will i sleep? You have limited intelligence and overflowing emotion A waste of time |
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Not you Willy, you can count to 2
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indeed , how will you sleep
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Andrew.in.Sweden
Date Joined: 22 Apr 19 Add contact | Send message 12 Apr 20 14:01Joined: 22 Apr 19 | Topic/replies: 1,977 | Blogger: Andrew.in.Sweden's blog 0.0014% apologies |
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how we sposed to tek any notice of of f&i
cant do simple maths  |
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https://www.nuffieldtrust.org.uk/resource/the-nhs-workforce-in-numbers#1-what-kinds-of-staff-make-up-the-nhs-workforce
"The NHS in England employs 1.5 million people. It is the country’s biggest employer and one of the largest employers globally." |
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Fire and Ice is one of the few who actually seems to get it.
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21/1500000 =0.000014
need then to x 100 = bingo  |
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10,000 deaths now
Well done 'no' backers I backed yes and done my money. Serves me right for being optimistic  |
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Willy, you can't google 'number of staff in nhs' seemingly!
Silly Willy  |
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google says madeleine mccann was abducted...
google walofs. |
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use bing then
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icey..why dont you lump on 1.04 no to retrieve losses?
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Purposefully tried not to follow the news.
You'll have to explain to me something to me. So why would we be in full lockdown with any purpose for longer than a month? Theoretically the day before lockdown the virus was still spreading? - Think thats a fact. Lockdown is announced and is it also a fact you can carry the virus for 14 days MAX before showing any effect of having it? So theoretically if it takes you 14 days to feel symptoms MAX? Is it also a fact theoretically after 15 days if you haven't shown symptoms you either haven't got it or the effects were that mild you didnt notice? .... Say you become ill after 14 days...what is the max period you can take to perish or beat the virus? IE is it possible to have the virus for 17 odd days and still be unwell? So theoretically if after 17 days thats 1 month...making it pointless to use a lockdown for more than a 30 day period? |
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My presumption is that the lockdown is to reduce (not eliminate) transmission and the consequential hospital take up. When the numbers requiring hospitalisation reduce then the argument for the easing of lockdown becomes more clear. However, there is every chance that the cycle will recommence unless we've learnt how to live safely in this new world.
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I agree that the same amount of people are going to die whichever way they did it, but, with the herd immunity approach, there would be another bunch of people that would die from the virus that would have survived if the staff hadn't been over-run.
At the moment it is plateauing simply because the virus is running out of victims due to the lock down, once the lock down is released it will have a new stream of people to infect, but this is unavoidable, all we can do is enable the stream of infected be funneled through the hospitals at a manageable rate and if and when they die let it be down to the fact that everything was able to be done to save them and not because the staff were completely knocked over by it. |
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the pies has got to the crust of the problem.
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out future over next few months,wks till vaccine will be about keeping infections under NHS capacity
apps and testing may make that easier possibly |
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ben96 12 Apr 20 16:58
Apr 12, 2020 -- 4:35PM, ItsMeSwaddle wrote: ' ............Is it also a fact theoretically after 15 days if you haven't shown symptoms you either haven't got it or the effects were that mild you didnt notice?....Say you become ill after 14 days...what is the max period you can take to perish or beat the virus?IE is it possible to have the virus for 17 odd days and still be unwell?So theoretically if after 17 days thats 1 month...making it pointless to use a lockdown for more than a 30 day period? ------------------- This is what I cant understand the lockdown should now be having more of an affect than it is. -------------- Not YET - ben96 Deaths reported today - are actually from up to a few days AGO - as Post-Mortems can, and are, involved in many cases. Somebody reported as a Death today = Died 3 or 4 days ago They could/would have been in hospital for a week/10 days/a fortnight - - previous to hospital admission, more than likely, had a minimum, of a rough week to 10 days at home (as in the Prime Minister, classic case) - - been infected from a low of 5 days up to around 14 days BEFORE that period - - so people reported as a DEATH TODAY - would have actually BEEN INFECTED around a minimum 30 to 40 days ago. Less than that time-span will be the Exception, rather than the Rule. The Lockdown has only been in place for 20 days, tomorrow. |