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stridingedge
22 Feb 20 19:24
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Q and A’s regarding the competition format and rules.

How many selections must be made?

Over the month entrants must make 1 selection on at least 25 days.Anyone can join in at any time as long as this criteria can be met, so for the January comp, the 7th would be the latest possible time to join in.

The calculation for no shows which cannot be exceeded is Days Of The Month - 25
So for January 31-25 = 6 possible days when an entrant can refrain from offering a selection

Void runners will not be viewed in the same way.Whilst Substitutes can be offered along with the primary selection on any given day following all the usual rules, a failure to have offered up a substitute to replace a void runner will not be used as a strike in the same way as a No Show.So in theory for a month, an entrant may still be accepted for posting less than 25 selections so long as the no show limit is not exceeded.

Can I change my selection once it’s been posted.?

You can only change your selection IF it is either deemed void OR it is nonsensical, ie a horse that doesn’t exist given in error. If sub(s) have been offered they will be used instead.If no sub has been offered and the selection deemed void you can post another selection so long as it’s BEFORE the 15 min before first race time limit.

What criteria do selections need to satisfy?

Selections must be of odds no greater than 6.0 in any UK or IRE race under rules win or STANDARD place markets on Betfair.

Are win and place markets settled in the same way?

Win markets allow for a choice between an early price to be taken or BFSP, whereas place markets will ALWAYS be settled at BFSP.The reason for the difference being the sluggish liquidity difference between those markets and thus the credibility of early prices.

When must selections be posted? (please read this carefully)

A selections thread for the following days racing will usually be posted between 6-7pm, in the event I am not around at this time the selections thread may be put up sooner.Anyone who needs to post a selection sooner than the next days thread being active can message me and I will make sure their entry along with any substitutes is posted on that day’s selections thread.

The competition will have 2 phases for the selections process.
Phase 1 will be from the time the selections thread is posted until 8am the following day (race day).

In this phase there is an opportunity primarily for those that are not around on race day to still be able to take part.Selections given during this time will be settled at BFSP unless a bet meeting the competition liability (current bank / 20) is posted on the selections thread to show it was feasible. The reason for this request at this stage is the volatility and slackness of the market and subsequent ?? over the credibility of an early price taken.

Eg the starting liability in the comp is £50 so a qualifying bet at the stated price must be posted for a minimum of that liability to be settled as such.

Selections posted with prices that aren’t verified in the above fashion will still be allowed but settled at BFSP so long as they still satisfy the price limit of max odds 6.0.

Entrants are more than welcome to offer up to 2 substitutes to back up their primary entry in the event of that runner being deemed void.If 2 substitutes are offered they will replace the void selection in the order they are posted. In the unfortunate event the substitute(s) are also deemed void the entrant will be put down as a void selection day.

Eg
16:00 Haydock First Selection
Sub 15:55 Catterick Second Selection
Sub 13:20 Southwell Third Selection

Where 2 Subs are given they will be chosen in order posted rather than time of races.

Phase 2 will be from 8am until t-15mins of the FIRST RACE OF THE DAY (so if the first race of the day is 12:00 ALL ENTRIES FOR THE DAY must be in by no later than 11:45am.Any Entries past this time will not be allowed!

In this phase of the market, Entrants can take an early price (no posted bet required) as last price matched when posting or leave their selection to be settled at BFSP.Note again that place market selections will always be settled at BFSP at whatever phase of the markets.

How are selections staked and returns calculated?

Selections are staked to a fixed 5% liability of an entrant’s current bank with a 2% commission rate which recently has become widely available on Betfair.

Where a price has been taken this will be used in settlement even if the BFSP returns greater than the permitted 6.0 max limit.
If deductions occur in the market after this price was taken, the taken price will be adjusted accordingly and so will the relevant staking for that selection to stay at the 5% liability of current bank.

Where a price has not been taken settlement will as in phase 1 of the market be at BFSP.

Where can the current standings be seen and who wins the comp?

The days results will be posted on the days selections thread on this forum, the overall standings will be over on the Your Comps forum.The winner will be the entrant with the biggest bank at the end of the month.

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By:
stridingedge
When: 22 Feb 20 19:25
I'm not around tomorrow at all, perhaps not even for scores at all. If I do get round to posting them will be after 11pm.

If someone could open a fred for Mondays selections to go in (tomorrow afternoon/evening) that would be great. Cool
By:
stridingedge
When: 22 Feb 20 19:26
If I don't post scores late tomorrow they will be up early Monday.

Cheers.
By:
bustino
When: 22 Feb 20 20:05
Enjoy ur day Strid

3.10 Naas   - Mt Leinster Pl Lay

4.10 Naas   - Pure Genius PL Lay Reserve

Gd luck with ur sels and hope u have a gd day Stride
By:
madhatter
When: 22 Feb 20 20:16
Articulum [place] - 2.10 Naas please se
By:
stridingedge
When: 22 Feb 20 20:19
If someone could get around to copying and pasting the deductions if/when they occur from the markets tomorrow that would be great.

Usually I settle on these but without them I don't know anywhere to access them after the markets are gone. Without the betfair % and time of withdrawal I will have to use the industry deductions.

Tar Bustino and GL all tomorrow.
By:
madhatters
When: 22 Feb 20 20:22
Echo Watt 2.20 Font
Ambitious PL lay - out and about seeing as only Ire & bumps
3 hotshots tempting at Font but my names not Airman Grin
By:
11kv
When: 22 Feb 20 22:15
14.00 Wolves Surf Walk

sub:17.10 Naas Stattler

Ta
By:
uptheboro
When: 22 Feb 20 22:18
Jetaway Joey - 5.20 Fontwell

Cheers Striding
By:
happysandwich
When: 22 Feb 20 22:41
Stridingedge,

Leave it to me to put Mondays thread up on Sunday Afternoon.

I’ll Put this heading up and copy the rules like I did last time.

Lay Naps Comp February 2020 - Monday 24rd Feb
By:
angeleyz
When: 22 Feb 20 23:27
cadmium - 2.10 naas place lay

ty striding
By:
hello :-)
When: 23 Feb 20 00:31
irish roe 15 30 wolves cheers striding
By:
invicta
When: 23 Feb 20 01:18
Longhouse Sale  3.00 Wolverhampton

thanks  striding.
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 23 Feb 20 02:17
Echo Watt 2:20 Fontwell

Cheers SE
By:
exactaman
When: 23 Feb 20 07:51
2.50 Fontwell | Grand Sancy |

Many Thx Striding.
By:
sonofshinner
When: 23 Feb 20 07:57
Echo Watt @2.08 Font 2.20..cheers stride..
By:
Celeric
When: 23 Feb 20 09:50
Fontwell 5.20 itsnotwhatyouthink @ 3.9

sub 4.00 wolves Mandalayan
By:
happysandwich
When: 23 Feb 20 10:16
Fontwell 3.50 Black Gerry
Sub :
Naas 4.10 Port Stanley

Thanks Stride.
By:
Airman
When: 23 Feb 20 10:25
Wolv 15:30  Irish Roe - Many thanks SE, good luck all in final week.
By:
east end boy
When: 23 Feb 20 10:36
4.50 Font Bob And Co
By:
china castle
When: 23 Feb 20 11:29
Corrany - 3.00 Wolves  Place

Thanks
By:
PENLLWYN
When: 23 Feb 20 11:35
Font 3.20 Thomas Darby place
By:
smirnoff2therescue
When: 23 Feb 20 11:57
Longhouse Sale - 3.00 Wolves 3.5

Going for the nap hand today CryCryCry
By:
Lucky Luciano
When: 23 Feb 20 12:07
Monsieur Lecoq place 3.20 Font
Res Jetaway Joey 5.20 Font
Tks striding
GL all
By:
Movewiththetimes
When: 23 Feb 20 12:10
Andy Dufresne 2.16 Naas 15-10 Thanks SE.
By:
rob22
When: 23 Feb 20 12:13
Articulum 2.10 Naas 3.55
Thanks Striding/Happy
By:
OilyWragg
When: 23 Feb 20 12:14
4.40 Naas Lost Oscar, place market. Thank you.
By:
Aquarius
When: 23 Feb 20 12:25
William Henry - 3.20 Fontwell (place)
By:
Andrew.in.Sweden
When: 23 Feb 20 12:30
4.50 Fontwell - Bob And Co

Good luck all

This should be the one that results in me leap frogging Happysandwich Laugh
By:
stewarts rise
When: 23 Feb 20 12:35
Striding Edge, which is the place market in the 3.30 Wolver please, clicking on the place market comes up 3 to be placed, clicking on the 3 place market comes up as 2 to be placed, which market counts for the comp please, 6 runners.
By:
stewarts rise
When: 23 Feb 20 12:42
Notice he's out all day, anyone know how many places for comp, if no one is sure i'll leave the race alone, thanks.
By:
flatcap
When: 23 Feb 20 12:44
3.30W Hatcher 2.82 LPM
Thanks Striding enjoy your day off
By:
flatcap
When: 23 Feb 20 12:46
I would presume it's 3 place's as originally 8 runners
By:
pumphol.
When: 23 Feb 20 12:46
Red Force One - 5.00 Wolver

Thanks
By:
stewarts rise
When: 23 Feb 20 12:51
Thanks Flatcap, looks like an anomaly as only 6 horses listed in 3 place market, where they are betting on 2 places only, better leave it.
By:
GLASGOWCALLING
When: 23 Feb 20 12:58
Frenchy Du Large. - 5-20 Fontwell.

Thanks Striding.
By:
The Management
When: 23 Feb 20 13:05
Stewarts - my understanding is that SE needs to be able to find a price for place selections AFTER the race and the only prices that he has easy access to are the BF "place" SP's. So the permitted market for the lay comp is the one labelled "place".

In the 15:30 race today this market ("place") would involve 3 places in a 6 runner race.
By:
stewarts rise
When: 23 Feb 20 13:17
Thanks Management, thought that was probably the case,cheers.
By:
dukeofpuke
When: 23 Feb 20 13:17
2.00 Wolves Merry Yarn
By:
stewarts rise
When: 23 Feb 20 13:19
Canyon City- 4.00 Wolver-2 place market.

Thanks SE.
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