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stridingedge
22 Feb 20 19:24
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Q and A’s regarding the competition format and rules.

How many selections must be made?

Over the month entrants must make 1 selection on at least 25 days.Anyone can join in at any time as long as this criteria can be met, so for the January comp, the 7th would be the latest possible time to join in.

The calculation for no shows which cannot be exceeded is Days Of The Month - 25
So for January 31-25 = 6 possible days when an entrant can refrain from offering a selection

Void runners will not be viewed in the same way.Whilst Substitutes can be offered along with the primary selection on any given day following all the usual rules, a failure to have offered up a substitute to replace a void runner will not be used as a strike in the same way as a No Show.So in theory for a month, an entrant may still be accepted for posting less than 25 selections so long as the no show limit is not exceeded.

Can I change my selection once it’s been posted.?

You can only change your selection IF it is either deemed void OR it is nonsensical, ie a horse that doesn’t exist given in error. If sub(s) have been offered they will be used instead.If no sub has been offered and the selection deemed void you can post another selection so long as it’s BEFORE the 15 min before first race time limit.

What criteria do selections need to satisfy?

Selections must be of odds no greater than 6.0 in any UK or IRE race under rules win or STANDARD place markets on Betfair.

Are win and place markets settled in the same way?

Win markets allow for a choice between an early price to be taken or BFSP, whereas place markets will ALWAYS be settled at BFSP.The reason for the difference being the sluggish liquidity difference between those markets and thus the credibility of early prices.

When must selections be posted? (please read this carefully)

A selections thread for the following days racing will usually be posted between 6-7pm, in the event I am not around at this time the selections thread may be put up sooner.Anyone who needs to post a selection sooner than the next days thread being active can message me and I will make sure their entry along with any substitutes is posted on that day’s selections thread.

The competition will have 2 phases for the selections process.
Phase 1 will be from the time the selections thread is posted until 8am the following day (race day).

In this phase there is an opportunity primarily for those that are not around on race day to still be able to take part.Selections given during this time will be settled at BFSP unless a bet meeting the competition liability (current bank / 20) is posted on the selections thread to show it was feasible. The reason for this request at this stage is the volatility and slackness of the market and subsequent ?? over the credibility of an early price taken.

Eg the starting liability in the comp is £50 so a qualifying bet at the stated price must be posted for a minimum of that liability to be settled as such.

Selections posted with prices that aren’t verified in the above fashion will still be allowed but settled at BFSP so long as they still satisfy the price limit of max odds 6.0.

Entrants are more than welcome to offer up to 2 substitutes to back up their primary entry in the event of that runner being deemed void.If 2 substitutes are offered they will replace the void selection in the order they are posted. In the unfortunate event the substitute(s) are also deemed void the entrant will be put down as a void selection day.

Eg
16:00 Haydock First Selection
Sub 15:55 Catterick Second Selection
Sub 13:20 Southwell Third Selection

Where 2 Subs are given they will be chosen in order posted rather than time of races.

Phase 2 will be from 8am until t-15mins of the FIRST RACE OF THE DAY (so if the first race of the day is 12:00 ALL ENTRIES FOR THE DAY must be in by no later than 11:45am.Any Entries past this time will not be allowed!

In this phase of the market, Entrants can take an early price (no posted bet required) as last price matched when posting or leave their selection to be settled at BFSP.Note again that place market selections will always be settled at BFSP at whatever phase of the markets.

How are selections staked and returns calculated?

Selections are staked to a fixed 5% liability of an entrant’s current bank with a 2% commission rate which recently has become widely available on Betfair.

Where a price has been taken this will be used in settlement even if the BFSP returns greater than the permitted 6.0 max limit.
If deductions occur in the market after this price was taken, the taken price will be adjusted accordingly and so will the relevant staking for that selection to stay at the 5% liability of current bank.

Where a price has not been taken settlement will as in phase 1 of the market be at BFSP.

Where can the current standings be seen and who wins the comp?

The days results will be posted on the days selections thread on this forum, the overall standings will be over on the Your Comps forum.The winner will be the entrant with the biggest bank at the end of the month.
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Report stridingedge February 22, 2020 7:25 PM GMT
I'm not around tomorrow at all, perhaps not even for scores at all. If I do get round to posting them will be after 11pm.

If someone could open a fred for Mondays selections to go in (tomorrow afternoon/evening) that would be great. Cool
Report stridingedge February 22, 2020 7:26 PM GMT
If I don't post scores late tomorrow they will be up early Monday.

Cheers.
Report bustino February 22, 2020 8:05 PM GMT
Enjoy ur day Strid

3.10 Naas   - Mt Leinster Pl Lay

4.10 Naas   - Pure Genius PL Lay Reserve

Gd luck with ur sels and hope u have a gd day Stride
Report madhatter February 22, 2020 8:16 PM GMT
Articulum [place] - 2.10 Naas please se
Report stridingedge February 22, 2020 8:19 PM GMT
If someone could get around to copying and pasting the deductions if/when they occur from the markets tomorrow that would be great.

Usually I settle on these but without them I don't know anywhere to access them after the markets are gone. Without the betfair % and time of withdrawal I will have to use the industry deductions.

Tar Bustino and GL all tomorrow.
Report madhatters February 22, 2020 8:22 PM GMT
Echo Watt 2.20 Font
Ambitious PL lay - out and about seeing as only Ire & bumps
3 hotshots tempting at Font but my names not Airman Grin
Report 11kv February 22, 2020 10:15 PM GMT
14.00 Wolves Surf Walk

sub:17.10 Naas Stattler

Ta
Report uptheboro February 22, 2020 10:18 PM GMT
Jetaway Joey - 5.20 Fontwell

Cheers Striding
Report happysandwich February 22, 2020 10:41 PM GMT
Stridingedge,

Leave it to me to put Mondays thread up on Sunday Afternoon.

I’ll Put this heading up and copy the rules like I did last time.

Lay Naps Comp February 2020 - Monday 24rd Feb
Report angeleyz February 22, 2020 11:27 PM GMT
cadmium - 2.10 naas place lay

ty striding
Report hello :-) February 23, 2020 12:31 AM GMT
irish roe 15 30 wolves cheers striding
Report invicta February 23, 2020 1:18 AM GMT
Longhouse Sale  3.00 Wolverhampton

thanks  striding.
Report SontaranStratagem February 23, 2020 2:17 AM GMT
Echo Watt 2:20 Fontwell

Cheers SE
Report exactaman February 23, 2020 7:51 AM GMT
2.50 Fontwell | Grand Sancy |

Many Thx Striding.
Report sonofshinner February 23, 2020 7:57 AM GMT
Echo Watt @2.08 Font 2.20..cheers stride..
Report Celeric February 23, 2020 9:50 AM GMT
Fontwell 5.20 itsnotwhatyouthink @ 3.9

sub 4.00 wolves Mandalayan
Report happysandwich February 23, 2020 10:16 AM GMT
Fontwell 3.50 Black Gerry
Sub :
Naas 4.10 Port Stanley

Thanks Stride.
Report Airman February 23, 2020 10:25 AM GMT
Wolv 15:30  Irish Roe - Many thanks SE, good luck all in final week.
Report east end boy February 23, 2020 10:36 AM GMT
4.50 Font Bob And Co
Report china castle February 23, 2020 11:29 AM GMT
Corrany - 3.00 Wolves  Place

Thanks
Report PENLLWYN February 23, 2020 11:35 AM GMT
Font 3.20 Thomas Darby place
Report smirnoff2therescue February 23, 2020 11:57 AM GMT
Longhouse Sale - 3.00 Wolves 3.5

Going for the nap hand today CryCryCry
Report Lucky Luciano February 23, 2020 12:07 PM GMT
Monsieur Lecoq place 3.20 Font
Res Jetaway Joey 5.20 Font
Tks striding
GL all
Report Movewiththetimes February 23, 2020 12:10 PM GMT
Andy Dufresne 2.16 Naas 15-10 Thanks SE.
Report rob22 February 23, 2020 12:13 PM GMT
Articulum 2.10 Naas 3.55
Thanks Striding/Happy
Report OilyWragg February 23, 2020 12:14 PM GMT
4.40 Naas Lost Oscar, place market. Thank you.
Report Aquarius February 23, 2020 12:25 PM GMT
William Henry - 3.20 Fontwell (place)
Report Andrew.in.Sweden February 23, 2020 12:30 PM GMT
4.50 Fontwell - Bob And Co

Good luck all

This should be the one that results in me leap frogging Happysandwich Laugh
Report stewarts rise February 23, 2020 12:35 PM GMT
Striding Edge, which is the place market in the 3.30 Wolver please, clicking on the place market comes up 3 to be placed, clicking on the 3 place market comes up as 2 to be placed, which market counts for the comp please, 6 runners.
Report stewarts rise February 23, 2020 12:42 PM GMT
Notice he's out all day, anyone know how many places for comp, if no one is sure i'll leave the race alone, thanks.
Report flatcap February 23, 2020 12:44 PM GMT
3.30W Hatcher 2.82 LPM
Thanks Striding enjoy your day off
Report flatcap February 23, 2020 12:46 PM GMT
I would presume it's 3 place's as originally 8 runners
Report pumphol. February 23, 2020 12:46 PM GMT
Red Force One - 5.00 Wolver

Thanks
Report stewarts rise February 23, 2020 12:51 PM GMT
Thanks Flatcap, looks like an anomaly as only 6 horses listed in 3 place market, where they are betting on 2 places only, better leave it.
Report GLASGOWCALLING February 23, 2020 12:58 PM GMT
Frenchy Du Large. - 5-20 Fontwell.

Thanks Striding.
Report The Management February 23, 2020 1:05 PM GMT
Stewarts - my understanding is that SE needs to be able to find a price for place selections AFTER the race and the only prices that he has easy access to are the BF "place" SP's. So the permitted market for the lay comp is the one labelled "place".

In the 15:30 race today this market ("place") would involve 3 places in a 6 runner race.
Report stewarts rise February 23, 2020 1:17 PM GMT
Thanks Management, thought that was probably the case,cheers.
Report dukeofpuke February 23, 2020 1:17 PM GMT
2.00 Wolves Merry Yarn
Report stewarts rise February 23, 2020 1:19 PM GMT
Canyon City- 4.00 Wolver-2 place market.

Thanks SE.
Report The Management February 23, 2020 1:31 PM GMT
14:10 Naas: Cadmium (Place Lay)

Thanks
Report FOYLESWAR February 23, 2020 1:32 PM GMT
andy dufresne 15.10 naas @ 2.14
Report flushgordon1 February 23, 2020 1:33 PM GMT
Bob and Co Font 4.50
Report flushgordon1 February 23, 2020 1:33 PM GMT
@ 2.14
Report Deplasterer February 23, 2020 1:34 PM GMT
2.00 Wolves, Merry Yarn, place lay.

Ta SE.
Report happysandwich February 23, 2020 1:54 PM GMT
NO MORE BETS


Cut off time was 1.45pm

… and all eyes will now be on Fontwell 3.50 Black Gerry to put the pressure on Andrew. Laugh
Report 11kv February 23, 2020 3:06 PM GMT
15.10 Naas nr Exit Poll 3.3%, Sun 23 Feb 10:37 (GMT)
Report 11kv February 23, 2020 5:43 PM GMT
^ soz wrong thread Cry
Report Andrew.in.Sweden February 23, 2020 6:34 PM GMT
Happysandwich

WD with Black Gerry.

I was robbed by a jockey that was hopeless in a finish Wink
Report stridingedge February 24, 2020 8:05 AM GMT


    Entrant        Selection        Race        Odds        BFSP        Re        su        lt        Stake        RaceP&L   
                                                                               
    11kv        Surf Walk        14:00 Wolv        2.73        2.73        5        /        13        25.85        25.33   
    Airman        Irish Roe        15:30 Wolv        1.85        1.85        4        /        6        64.07        62.78   
    Andrew.in.Sweden        Bob And Co        16:50 Font        2.18        2.18        1        /        4        43.12        -50.89   
    angeleyz        Cadmium (p)        14:10 Naas        2.30        2.30        4        /        5        30.27        29.67   
    Aquarius        William Henry (p)        15:20 Font        2.77        2.77        1        /        5        27.22        -48.17   
    Bustino        Mt Leinster (p)        15:10 Naas        1.46        1.46        4        /        9        124.22        121.74   
    cardenden        No Selection                                                                   
    Celeric        Itsnotwhatyouthink        17:20 Font        3.90        3.00        2        /        7        18.57        18.20   
    Cheify        No Selection                                                                   
    china castle        Corrany (p)        15:00 Wolv        2.33        2.33        2        /        6        40.15        -53.40   
    Deplasterer        Merry Yarn (p)        14:00 Wolv        2.10        2.10        8        /        13        35.33        34.62   
    dukeofpuke        Merry Yarn        14:00 Wolv        5.10        5.10        8        /        13        12.95        12.69   
    east end boy        Bob And Co        16:50 Font        2.18        2.18        1        /        4        49.12        -57.96   
    exactaman        Grand Sancy        14:50 Font        1.21        1.21        1        /        3        138.57        -29.10   
    Flatcap        Hatcher        15:30 Wolv        2.82        4.16        1        /        6        32.60        -59.32   
    flushgordon1        Bob And Co        16:50 Font        2.14        2.18        1        /        4        56.12        -63.98   
    FOYLESWAR        Andy Dufresne        15:10 Naas        2.14        2.30        3        /        9        42.54        41.69   
    GLASGOWCALLING        Frenchy Du Large        17:20 Font        3.96        3.96        3        /        7        15.03        14.73   
    happysandwich        Black Gerry        15:50 Font        2.47        2.47        2        /        5        35.16        34.46   
    Hello:-)        Irish Roe        15:30 Wolv        1.85        1.85        4        /        6        46.77        45.83   
    hong kong fooey        No Selection                                                                   
    Invicta        Longhouse Sale        15:00 Wolv        3.05        3.05        5        /        6        20.98        20.56   
    Lucky Luciano        Monsieur Lecoq (p)        15:20 Font        2.50        2.50        5        /        5        30.29        29.69   
    madhatter        Articulum (p)        14:10 Naas        2.04        2.04        2        /        5        61.26        -63.72   
    madhatters        Echo Watt (p)        14:20 Font        1.22        1.22        1        /        8        197.74        -43.50   
    MinnieLAI        No Selection                                                                   
    Movewiththetimes        Andy Dufresne        15:10 Naas        2.16        2.30        3        /        9        54.09        53.01   
    OilyWragg        Lost Oscar (p)        16:40 Naas        5.32        5.32        10        /        22        11.04        10.82   
    PENLLWYN        Thomas Darby (p)        15:20 Font        1.42        1.42        3        /        5        96.75        94.82   
    posy        No Selection                                                                   
    pumphol        Red Force One        17:00 Wolv        2.39        2.39        3        /        11        32.54        31.89   
    rob22        Articulum        14:10 Naas        3.55        3.60        2        /        5        19.41        19.02   
    smirnoff2therescue        Longhouse Sale        15:00 Wolv        3.50        3.05        5        /        6        19.54        19.15   
    sonofshinner        Echo Watt        14:20 Font        2.02        2.02        1        /        8        36.22        -36.95   
    SontaranStratagem        Echo Watt        14:20 Font        2.02        2.02        1        /        8        43.69        -44.57   
    stewarts rise        Canyon City (p)        16:00 Wolv        2.86        2.86        3        /        7        26.93        26.39   
    stridingedge        No Selection                                                                   
    The Management        Cadmium (p)        14:10 Naas        2.30        2.30        4        /        5        31.45        30.82   
    The Norfolk Mafia        No Selection                                                                   
    uptheboro        Jetaway Joey        17:20 Font        3.16        3.16        1        /        7        21.45        -46.34   




Thread Total £180.01
Month Total -£904.53



Thank You Happysandwich for helping out yesterday.
Report stridingedge February 24, 2020 8:21 AM GMT
Table is up
Cheers All.
Report east end boy February 24, 2020 9:57 AM GMT
7.00 Wolv Reeves ( Place )
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