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took 73 of me for horse winning how can this be right when weiged in
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but nothing when you see what it cost sixtwosix
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Just got back from Sandown, thre were people running around rearching for their lost tickets and others trying to find discarded tickets to claim other people's money, a sad end to an otherwise excellent days racing
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Alices, who the **** is Alices?
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another total embarrassing farcical episode from the people who run british racing...race should have taken no more than 3 minutes to be declared void..the bha cudnt run a pi$$ up.
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Race 7 - 3:35pm
THE BETFAIR LONDON NATIONAL HANDICAP STEEPLE CHASE (CLASS 2) The middle railway fence to be omitted for this race due to being damaged in the previous race. An enquiry was held to consider why Neil Mulholland was running CAROLE’S DESTRIER here at Sandown on going described as Soft, Good to Soft in places, having declared the gelding a non-runner at Sandown on 10 November 2019 on ground with the same official description. The trainer stated that the owner wished to run on this occasion as they were running out of opportunities for the gelding. Hugh Nugent, the rider of HOUBLON DES OBEAUX (FR), had fallen rounding the final bend on the first circuit. After viewing a recording of the incident, it was found that no other horse or rider was involved and the incident was caused by the gelding sustaining an injury. An enquiry was held to consider the circumstances surrounding the deployment of the yellow ‘stop race’ flag shortly after rounding the final bend on the final circuit. The Clerk of the Course, the Head Groundsman, Jamie Moore, the rider of STEP BACK (IRE), Daryl Jacob, the rider of DRAGON D’ESTRUVAL (FR), Adam Wedge, the rider of SHARP RESPONSE (IRE), Stan Sheppard, the rider of CONINGSBY, Harry Skelton, the rider of GET ON THE YAGER, James Davies, the rider of DARK FLAME (IRE), and Philip Donovan, the rider of DOING FINE (IRE), were interviewed and shown recordings of the incident. Being a 7lb claiming conditional, Donovan was represented in the enquiry by the trainer. All seven riders were suspended for 10 days for failing to pull up after the ‘stop race’ flag had been deployed and, in light of this ‘stop race’ flag being deployed the Stewards declared the race void. |
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https://www.attheraces.com/news/2019/December/08/
riders-set-to-appeal-bans-from-sandown-voided-race |
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an unsuccessful appeal presumably increases the ban to 15 days ...
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frivolous appeals
they've all seen the flag, that's why they've all gone around the fence they either didn't know what the yellow flag meant or chose to ignore it so either way its a ban they should count themselves lucky to have only got 10 days imo because the jockeys had no idea what was on the other side of the fence, so carrying on past the yellow flag constitutes dangerous riding |
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Agree totally ^
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the world is ran by fcukwits...plenty are in this forum.
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Lads were all bets on this race declared void.
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FROM THE HELP DESK 10 MINUTES AGO
Thank you. From what I can see, the horse did run, however, it was pulled up. The bet would stand here, unfortunately. ME....the race was declared void, all money back on the race. Helpdesk.....To be honest, we are not aware of this. The results can be found here: https://sportinglife.com/racing/results FFS |
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so they're actually fleecing people by keeping their money on a void race and hoping nobody asks for it back ... somebody call the cops
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BHA to revise procedure for announcing void races after Sandown chaos
Stewards conduct a lengthy inquiry into the voided London National at Sandown on Saturday Stewards conduct a lengthy inquiry into the voided London National at Sandown on Saturday Mark Cranham 1 of 1 By Jonathan Harding 8:00PM, DEC 8 2019 The BHA is set to revise the system for announcing void races after a chaotic running of the London National led to confusion in the Sandown betting ring on Saturday. Punters and bookmakers were forced to wait for the conclusion of a lengthy stewards' inquiry – more than half an hour after the race had finished – for an official announcement that the race had been declared void. One leading bookmaker described the delay as "ludicrous" and the BHA said it was ready to bring forward the announcement of a voided race before addressing the other elements of the stewards' inquiry. A BHA spokesman said on Sunday: "An inquiry was immediately announced by the stewards, and then the jockeys involved and the clerk of the course were spoken to before announcing a decision, in line with procedures. "In future we will take a look at these procedures to separate out the void race part of the inquiry from the other elements in order that we can inform racegoers, broadcasters and the betting public as to the outcome of the race more quickly.” Officials voided the race due to the veterinary team attending on-track to Houblon Des Obeaux, who suffered a fatal heart attack on the final bend of Sandown's chase course just after the Pond fence. Venetia Williams pays tribute to Houblon Des Obeaux Mulholland blasts officials over void race fiasco Seven jockeys were handed ten-day suspensions for continuing to race despite the stop-race yellow flag being waved by the third-last fence. That was the only indication to racegoers that the race had been voided, with commentary of the race continuing as normal. Under the rules, all bets were voided, with punters entitled to a refund on their stakes provided they still had their betting tickets, but due to the delay many racegoers had already discarded them. Paddy Power were one of several firms to pay out as a goodwill gesture, and spokesman Paul Binfield said: “We very much believe the stewards’ inquiry should be conducted after they have determined the race is void. The yellow flag used to denote a void race is waved to the riders in Sandown's London National on Saturday The yellow flag used to denote a void race is waved to the riders in Sandown's London National on Saturday "As soon as that yellow flag is raised it’s a void race and that should be announced straight away. Otherwise there’s a chance we could have paid out and then have to try to claim that money back. "On this occasion we paid out on the ‘winner’ after the eventual announcement and it cost us six figures on ‘a race’ that would otherwise have been a winning one." Coral spokesman Dave Stevens said: "While the incident that led to the race being voided was tragic for connections, it seems ludicrous that it took so long to make an announcement. "A more immediate decision would certainly help avoid the confusion we saw with settlement of bets on course and off, as many punters will discard losing betting slips straight away as a matter of habit. “Online refunds of losing bets can be made easily enough, but in shops it’s a less simple process. In no way are we disputing the decision to void the race, just the time it took to make it public." Betfair spokesman Barry Orr added: "From a betting perspective, the quicker confusion and doubt is removed the better it is for punters, and the industry at large. "It’s a no-brainer that once the decision to void was confirmed, it should be announced immediately. It would fill that vacuum of uncertainty and let everyone move on from the incident." Sandown 'Hoover' a threat to punters reclaiming slips Punters hoping to claim money back on discarded betting tickets for Saturday's void race at Sandown will have to hope that the track's 'Hoover' did not clean up their wagers. Online bettors will have had no worries getting their stakes back but, according to a Tote employee at the track on Saturday, a man nicknamed The Hoover searches for discarded slips hoping they contain unclaimed winnings. Saturday's London National would have been ideal for The Hoover. As it was the last race, many punters would have left the course immediately after the horses passed the finishing line. The employee said that despite being fully aware of what he is doing they have no choice but to pay The Hoover. On-course Tote punters who discarded their tickets can write to Totepool with details of their bets to request a refund – assuming The Hoover did not find their ticket. Discarded betting tickets that were placed with on-course bookmakers and were not brought to the attention of the betting ring manager on Saturday will be unable to be reclaimed. |
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Yet another f-up from the nincompoops that run British racing!
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suppose some children run out on the course while a race was in progress,and a yellow flag was raised for the jockey's to stop.?
All the jockey's should be banned from riding for 6 months."they don't know the rules of racing. |
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Thank you for that. We have just raised this to our Traders so that they will be able to advise. We will update you here soon. |
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What they should do is to get all of the jockeys who failed to stop riding after the yellow flag was displayed on Saturday. Put them in a classroom with 5yo pupils and ask the question...what must you do if a yellow flag is raised during a race?.
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Race 7 - 3:35pm
THE BETFAIR LONDON NATIONAL HANDICAP STEEPLE CHASE (CLASS 2) The middle railway fence to be omitted for this race due to being damaged in the previous race. An enquiry was held to consider why Neil Mulholland was running CAROLE’S DESTRIER here at Sandown on going described as Soft, Good to Soft in places, having declared the gelding a non-runner at Sandown on 10 November 2019 on ground with the same official description. The trainer stated that the owner wished to run on this occasion as they were running out of opportunities for the gelding. Hugh Nugent, the rider of HOUBLON DES OBEAUX (FR), had fallen rounding the final bend on the first circuit. After viewing a recording of the incident, it was found that no other horse or rider was involved and the incident was caused by the gelding sustaining an injury. An enquiry was held to consider the circumstances surrounding the deployment of the yellow ‘stop race’ flag shortly after rounding the final bend on the final circuit. The Clerk of the Course, the Head Groundsman, Jamie Moore, the rider of STEP BACK (IRE), Daryl Jacob, the rider of DRAGON D’ESTRUVAL (FR), Adam Wedge, the rider of SHARP RESPONSE (IRE), Stan Sheppard, the rider of CONINGSBY, Harry Skelton, the rider of GET ON THE YAGER, James Davies, the rider of DARK FLAME (IRE), and Philip Donovan, the rider of DOING FINE (IRE), were interviewed and shown recordings of the incident. Being a 7lb claiming conditional, Donovan was represented in the enquiry by the trainer. All seven riders were suspended for 10 days for failing to pull up after the ‘stop race’ flag had been deployed and, in light of this ‘stop race’ flag being deployed the Stewards declared the race void. Still no joy from "the traders at Betfair" who didn't realise the race was declared VOID. ffs you couldn't make this stuff up |
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actually I am the ass-h0le here, my bet was in the 3.15 race
 .apologies to all the help desk |
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don't confuse 'trader' with some clued up city type earning mega money. trader around here is some school-leaver who messed up the interview for mcdonalds, £8.43 an hour and not got a fkng clue.
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still think everyone is missing the point ,tragic though it is ,the screens going round an injured horse does happen sometimes ,but it very rarely means the race being stopped and declared void,a horse fell and was killed at the first fence in the Grand National this year or last ,should they have stopped the race and called it void?The yellow flag should not have been waved in my opinion .
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Looks like the "Hoover" cleaned up.
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Agree snowy, although it might have helped if the flag man had waved the flag instead of pointing it in the direction of the fence to
be avoided. He could also have been in a much more prominent position. Had he been clearly visible and waving the flag vigorously the jocks would have pulled up imo. |
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exactly roggrain ,he was pointing the flag as if to say ,"go that way " and the commentator said ,"they are being waved round the screens"
and will omit the pond fence. |