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Keith Stone
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Timmy McCarthy
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Pitman mother and son
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Three from the North: Vicky Haigh and Mark Campion, who both may still hold licenses and Bob Woodhouse (now works for Tatts) who trained my best ever pointer.
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Mrs Reavely and son
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Andrew in sweden i can remember Peter having big punts on miami banker,tachyon park and frimley park.
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Dunlop Green Flash!
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Pat Rohan
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Sawley House Stables 06 May 19 12:36
Three from the North: Vicky Haigh trainer in France now ... |
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Ferdy Murphy ?
something happened in England & he went abroad similar time to Howard Johnson think |
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Raymond Shiels (nap)
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Yes. Controversy seemed to follow her.
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Yes. Controversy seemed to follow her.
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Ferdy training in France too.
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Con Crossley who trained in the Tarporley area
The Robinson chap who trained Slalom who was in everylist of horses to follow at one time Mike O'Neil - think he was a constructor then set up training in Lydiate(not far from Aintree). Trained Ayr Gold Cup winner Joveworth with a young Jimmy Fortune aboard. Captain Wilson - father of Geraldine Rees. Had Julie Bowker riding for him who is the mum of the young Fallon Michael Albina- had the Fustouk horses in including Silver Hawk in 1982. Was only about twenty at the time. |
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handtorofe 06 May 19 12:45
Andrew in sweden i can remember Peter having big punts on miami banker, tachyon park and frimley park. Handtorofe, I remember Frimley Prk (sprinter) but not the other two. I left the UK in 1984 and they were born in '84 nd '86 (no internet on those days). I checked out TP and noticed FP was the sire. I better not mention any more punts i had in that era, it will end up as a 'This is Your Life' with Delta as Eamonn Andrews.  |
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Derek Hdyn Jones horses always seemed to win when they were gambled, cant remember any though.
John White trained Shikari's Son, always ran well at Brighton and won quite a few Ron Boss There was one trainer over 20 years ago I followed every time he had a 2yo gambled, most seemed to win and use to run a lot at salisbury, sadly he passed on then his wife took over the stable, nor can i remember his name (it will come to me later)but i think trained near there, Andover maybe think the stable might have had a handicapper called pit stop |
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Friends had one with DHJ, Kristi's Girl, or Kirsti's Girl, something like that. Won at a nice price at Chester, and yes, I was on!
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Sue Wilton, David Loder
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Sue Wilton, David Loder
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Sue Wilton, David Loder
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Most of the trainers I had any contact with are long since retired, and I suspect most (if not all) have now passed away.
Before I moved to Somerset in '83, had connections to Jean French, who trained near me (Luddesdown/Meopham?), and her daughters (who I actually knew better) used to ride her horses. Remember Royal And Ancient winning at 50/1 in a small field in an evening race at Towcester, in the days before the shops were open for such meetings. Tom, and Pat Palmer, near Detling, will never forget the day they had a 33/1 winner at Lingfield, Hello Luna iirc? Through them, got to know Lucy King/Gibbons who won most hunter chases at Fakenham back then for 2 trainers, one was Libby (Elizabeth) Lees, cannot remember other. Clonmellon, and Mr Mellors being the highlights of those. After moving to Somerset, was in part ownership ventures with 2 trainers, David Tucker, who barely trained a winner, and just vanished from trace. The other was shrewder, John Baker. |
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john traynor
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Lucky Luciano - Finmental , Mentalasanythin and Saddam The Log , to name but three . How on earth can anyone fail to remember such brilliantly named thoroughbreds ?
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'This is Your Life' with "Delta as Eamonn Andrews"
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Many moons ago had a horse with Chris Murry/Nicola Howarth (newmarket), often wonder where they ended up, being Newmarket it was the money (or lack of it that got him in the end) but he knew horses ok.
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I think Reynard failed to mention Derek Haydon Jones' best horse. Smart sprinter Annie Edge, who later became the mother of champion miler Selkirk, amongst others
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Thanks , Mr Sawley . I wasn't aware that Annie Edge was trained by Derek Hayden Jones .
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Delta as Eamonn Andrews.in.Sweden
just getting the red book |
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Even better ! ...
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just getting the red book
Eamonn Andrews one minute .......... Chairman Mao the next  |
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Shirley at the w/e too
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Eddie Reavey was the trainer i couldnt remember and the DHJ horses mentioned are there well now, especially Anne Edge
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kennythebetboy: Isn't Penny Ffitch-Heyes John's step-daughter, rather than his wife? For all Penny's wins on Manhattan Boy, I still think getting Hettinger to somehow clear the first five fences in the Grand National was her greatest feat. Of course, the inevitable happened at the next (Becher's), but still ...
stephaniebot: Is "David Tucker" DC Tucker, who used to train at Frome? I always had it in my head that he was "Donald Tucker", but I could well be wrong. There's also a Devon breeder, DR Tucker, known as Richard Tucker, who held a licence for a long time, but with few successes. One exception was at an evening meeting at Newton Abbot in May 1992, with a gelding called Deccan Prince, in the selling handicap hurdle. The whisper, according to Eddie Fremantle, was that the man behind the horse was none other than CJ Hill, the legendary butcher of Barnstaple. The nag had run for Tucker on the Flat in 1998, managing a third in a Bath seller. It was then tailed off several times over hurdles, listed as being trained by Ron Hodges. It disappeared for a couple of years, before being "held up behind, some hdwy, nvr pl to challenge" in a maiden hurdle at Newton Abbot, once more listed as being trained by DR Tucker. Next time out it sluiced up in the above-mentioned Newton Abbot seller, SP 7/1 (opened at least 14/1 - I managed to get a £500/£35). The first horse listed as trained by DR Tucker to have won a race for what seemed like years. God knows how much actual part he had played in the success though. The horse was tailed off and pulled up in two subsequent starts and never seen again. Quite a few job horses seemed to move back and forth between CJ Hill and Ron Hodges at that time. The sprinting mare Beatle Song was one example. Beatle Song's first trainer was actually Ian Balding, trainer of Selkirk, mentioned above, who was out of Derek Haydn Jones's mare Annie Edge. I remember saying to Eddie once: "What happened to Haydn Jones? You get a mare like Annie Edge, who takes you to the top, yet you spend the rest of your career fiddling horse's handicap marks to get them into 0-60s." "Not much different from what happened to Ian Balding then," came the reply. |
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* The nag had run for Tucker on the Flat in 1988
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Yes, DR Tucker (Richard) was the one I was in an ownership syndicate with
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Stephanie,
Did John Baker appear on the racecard as R J Baker? I owned a horse that got done a neck in an amateur riders race at Salisbury in June 2002, by one of his called Hattington, ridden by the well named Mr Sharkey! Hattington ran in the colours of Mick Channon and when he won again in July, I believe he was the last winner sent out by Mr Baker. One of my own to add to the list, David Wilson, who trained in Epsom until the mid 90's, after being assistant to John Sutcliffe. One of his best horses was Gamblers Dream, who won the Crocker Bulteel Hcp on King George day at Ascot. I know he went on to work with Gary Moore and he's still around, as I talked to him at the Newmarket sales last October. |
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Btw, in the Directory of the Turf 1988, there are entries in the trainers section for a David Richard Tucker based in Cullompton, Devon - and a Donald Charles Tucker based in Frome. They were born 17 years apart, DC in 1932, DR in 1949, so seems unlikely they were closely related.
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Going back to Annie Edge, good as she was, I think it was a surprise when she made 330k gns at the end of her 3 year old career in 1983. Reputedly to race in the US, not sure if she ever did?. I assume the buyer was George Strawbridge. Given she got Selkirk and a couple of other decent animals, hard to argue that he paid too much.
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