First 5 Fav's Stop at a Winner

Good Luck - an interesting concept

Good luck happysandwich

great story Happy. good luck although as you well know this is likely to end in tears!

as expected. fav backers f@cked up the @ss as always

should have just stuck with Poppy

^^^^
Thanks to you 4

Certainly was a double whammy today.
When I did it in the early 70’s there was no mobiles, computers or Exchanges. If you wanted a horse to lose in them days it would have to be doped and you would have to have been connected to bookmakers in some way to make money.

Betfair was the best thing to have happened to the horses welfare.

Friday 14th Sept
Chester 1st race 4/6 W £6.66
Doncaster 4th race 2/1 W £90 - That’s £80@2/1 = £160 less £70 loss 3 previous races.
Listowel 1st race 3/1 W£30
Salisbury 2nd race 1/8 Lost £7.50 - That’s £20@1/8 = £2.50 less £10 loss on 1st race.
Sandown 1st race 9/4 W £22.50

Profit on Day = £141.66

Saturday 15th Sept
Chester  Lost £310
Chelmsford 2nd race 9/4 W £35.00
Listowel Lost £310
Doncaster 2nd race 5/2 W £40.00
Bath 2nd race 2/1 W £30.00
Musselburgh 1st race 10/11 W £9.09
Leopardstown 3rd race 6/5 W £18.00
Lingfield 3rd race 8/11 Lost £0.90

Loss on Day = £487.01

Sunday 16th September
Ffos Las
Currah
Bath

Profit/Loss on Day =

Monday 17th September
Hexham
Brighton
Worcester
Galway
Kempton

Profit/Loss on Day =

Tuesday 18th September
Yarmouth
Lingfield
Redcar
Galway
Kempton

Profit/Loss on Day =

Wednesday 19th September
Sandown
Beverley
Yarmouth
Naas
Kelso

Profit/Loss on Day =

Thursday 20th September
Yarmouth
Ayr
Pontefract
Clonmel
Chelmsford

Profit/Loss on Day =

Friday 21st September
Newbury
Ayr
Newton Abbot
Newcastle

Profit/Loss on Day =

Profit/Loss on Week =

Days betting finished on the second race at each meeting.

Why can't every day be like that.

Friday 14th Sept
Chester 1st race 4/6 W £6.66
Doncaster 4th race 2/1 W £90 - That’s £80@2/1 = £160 less £70 loss 3 previous races.
Listowel 1st race 3/1 W£30
Salisbury 2nd race 1/8 Lost £7.50 - That’s £20@1/8 = £2.50 less £10 loss on 1st race.
Sandown 1st race 9/4 W £22.50

Profit on Day = £141.66

Saturday 15th Sept
Chester  Lost £310
Chelmsford 2nd race 9/4 W £35.00
Listowel Lost £310
Doncaster 2nd race 5/2 W £40.00
Bath 2nd race 2/1 W £30.00
Musselburgh 1st race 10/11 W £9.09
Leopardstown 3rd race 6/5 W £18.00
Lingfield 3rd race 8/11 Lost £0.90

Loss on Day = £487.01

Sunday 16th September
Ffos Las 2nd race 5/4 W £15.00
Currah 2nd race 11/8 W £17.50
Bath 2nd race 5/4 W £15.00

Profit on Day = £47.50

Monday 17th September
Hexham
Brighton
Worcester
Galway
Kempton

Profit/Loss on Day =

Tuesday 18th September
Yarmouth
Lingfield
Redcar
Galway
Kempton

Profit/Loss on Day =

Wednesday 19th September
Sandown
Beverley
Yarmouth
Naas
Kelso

Profit/Loss on Day =

Thursday 20th September
Yarmouth
Ayr
Pontefract
Clonmel
Chelmsford

Profit/Loss on Day =

Friday 21st September
Newbury
Ayr
Newton Abbot
Newcastle

Profit/Loss on Day =

Loss on Week = -£297.85

hs assume you're backing 'unnamed favourite' rather than trying to identify favourite ?

2nd race winner at bath was 3/1 and wasnt the fav

another losing day for fav backers

i make it a £58 loss on the day happy

sorry...make that a £58 loss at bath

Sunday 16th September
Ffos Las 2nd race 5/4 W £15.00
Currah 2nd race 11/8 W £17.50
Bath 2nd race 5/4 W £15.00

Profit on Day = £47.50

bath didn't have winning fav till 5th race so would of been £160 @4/7 = 91.42 - £150 (previous stakes)= -£58.58

loss on day = £26.08

Do Bookies still take stop at a winner bets or are you placing them race by race.

He is paper trading Oldgit.

@BornToWin

He is paper trading Oldgit.

Saw that and thought you was talking to me.

@posy
assume you're backing 'unnamed favourite' rather than trying to identify favourite ?

Yes, 'unnamed favourite', I’m only paper trading it for fun and have no intention of doing it for real money. I did it in the early 70’s before the Exchanges and mobile phones. Used betting shops and had accounts with independent bookies.
Too long a story to explain everything, especially how I was betting in 100’s. I go back before betting shops when it was ‘bookies runners’ which was illegal.

This is an example of what I would write on a betting slip in a shop but if I was staying in the shop I would put the bets on individually as required. Bookies were completely different in those days.

Stop at a Winner
If jt or co Fav lowest race card number applies.

£10 win Fav Bath 2.10
£20 win Fav Bath 2.45
£40 win Fav Bath 3.55
£80 win Fav Bath 4.30
£160 win Fav Bath 5.05

Stake £310

@Charlton2005
@warhan

What would I do without you two keeping an eye on me ?

These are the correct figures that I will update after tomorrow's racing.

Sunday 16th September
Ffos Las 2nd race 5/4 W £15.00
Currah 2nd race 11/8 W £17.50
Bath 5th race 4/7 Lost £58.58

Loss on Day = £26.08

Don't look if you're squeamish.

Friday 14th Sept
Chester 1st race 4/6 W £6.66
Doncaster 4th race 2/1 W £90 - That’s £80@2/1 = £160 less £70 loss 3 previous races.
Listowel 1st race 3/1 W£30
Salisbury 2nd race 1/8 Lost £7.50 - That’s £20@1/8 = £2.50 less £10 loss on 1st race.
Sandown 1st race 9/4 W £22.50

Profit on Day = £141.66

Saturday 15th Sept
Chester  Lost £310
Chelmsford 2nd race 9/4 W £35.00
Listowel Lost £310
Doncaster 2nd race 5/2 W £40.00
Bath 2nd race 2/1 W £30.00
Musselburgh 1st race 10/11 W £9.09
Leopardstown 3rd race 6/5 W £18.00
Lingfield 3rd race 8/11 Lost £0.90

Loss on Day = £487.01

Sunday 16th September
Ffos Las 2nd race 5/4 W £15.00
Currah 2nd race 11/8 W £17.50
Bath 5th race 4/7 Lost £58.58

Loss on Day = £26.08

Monday 17th September
Hexham 3rd race 13/8 W £35.00
Brighton 2nd race 13/8 W £22.50
Worcester 1st race 4/1 W £40.00
Galway Lost £310
Kempton 3rd race 2/7 Lost £18.52

Loss on Day = £231.02

Tuesday 18th September
Yarmouth
Lingfield
Redcar
Galway
Kempton

Profit/Loss on Day =

Wednesday 19th September
Sandown
Beverley
Yarmouth
Naas
Kelso

Profit/Loss on Day =

Thursday 20th September
Yarmouth
Ayr
Pontefract
Clonmel
Chelmsford

Profit/Loss on Day =

Friday 21st September
Newbury
Ayr
Newton Abbot
Newcastle

Profit/Loss on Day =

Loss on Week = -£602.45

Looks like you should stop at the Irish Sea

send me a fiver and i'll start laying the irish favs - you'll never be minus £310 again ...

@madhatters
@hulk23

It’s only an exercise but certainly an eye opener with 3 meetings in 3 days without a favourite winning. I’ll continue until Friday and then let it go off the page.

Maybe one of you two could do a chart like mine on Laying or backing at Irish meets, just for a bit of interest over the course of a week ?

Wudn't touch it with your bread sarnie
As an exercise 8 days wudn't be much of a sample
My personal is to leave Ire to those who know or think they do
Maybe top class meets
Enuff this side to blow your brains

e.g 30% win
e.g 5 x 6 races today for simplicity = 30
Approx 10 faves to win
But ... they could have all been at 2 meetings
Wallop
Simples
GL looking for the Coronation chicken or Fool's Gold Loaf
Consists of a single warmed, hollowed-out loaf of bread filled with one jar of creamy peanut butter, one jar of grape jelly, and a pound of bacon. In 1976, Elvis Presley and some of his friends flew to Colorado to consume them. - Wiki

nox says he doesnt believe it

needs tweaking

Pure pony

Jog round the block ......if u want an excercise

Freddy

I’ve been jogging on the spot ever since I started typing this thread and now have the best looking calf muscles on the forum.

can i stop laying the irish favs ?  have you won enough ...

Friday 14th Sept
Chester 1st race 4/6 W £6.66
Doncaster 4th race 2/1 W £90 - That’s £80@2/1 = £160 less £70 loss 3 previous races.
Listowel 1st race 3/1 W£30
Salisbury 2nd race 1/8 Lost £7.50 - That’s £20@1/8 = £2.50 less £10 loss on 1st race.
Sandown 1st race 9/4 W £22.50

Profit on Day = £141.66

Saturday 15th Sept
Chester  Lost £310
Chelmsford 2nd race 9/4 W £35.00
Listowel Lost £310
Doncaster 2nd race 5/2 W £40.00
Bath 2nd race 2/1 W £30.00
Musselburgh 1st race 10/11 W £9.09
Leopardstown 3rd race 6/5 W £18.00
Lingfield 3rd race 8/11 Lost £0.90

Loss on Day = £487.01

Sunday 16th September
Ffos Las 2nd race 5/4 W £15.00
Currah 2nd race 11/8 W £17.50
Bath 5th race 4/7 Lost £58.58

Loss on Day = £26.08

Monday 17th September
Hexham 3rd race 13/8 W £35.00
Brighton 2nd race 13/8 W £22.50
Worcester 1st race 4/1 W £40.00
Galway Lost £310
Kempton 3rd race 2/7 Lost £18.52

Loss on Day = £231.02

Tuesday 18th September
Yarmouth 1st race 1/2 W £5.00
Lingfield 1st race 6/4 W £15.00
Redcar 3rd race 7/2 W £110.00
Galway 1st race 8/15 W £5.33
Kempton 4th race 13/8 W £60.00

Profit on Day = £195.33

Wednesday 19th September
Sandown
Beverley
Yarmouth
Naas
Kelso

Profit/Loss on Day =

Thursday 20th September
Yarmouth
Ayr
Pontefract
Clonmel
Chelmsford

Profit/Loss on Day =

Friday 21st September
Newbury
Ayr
Newton Abbot
Newcastle

Profit/Loss on Day =

Loss on Week = -£407.12

Only two more day's - then I'll leave you all alone.

Friday 14th Sept
Chester 1st race 4/6 Won £6.66
Doncaster 4th race 2/1 Won £90 - That’s £80@2/1 = £160 less £70 loss 3 previous races.
Listowel 1st race 3/1 Won £30
Salisbury 2nd race 1/8 Lost £7.50 - That’s £20@1/8 = £2.50 less £10 loss on 1st race.
Sandown 1st race 9/4 Won £22.50

Profit on Day = £141.66

Saturday 15th Sept
Chester  Lost £310
Chelmsford 2nd race 9/4 Won £35.00
Listowel Lost £310
Doncaster 2nd race 5/2 Won £40.00
Bath 2nd race 2/1 Won £30.00
Musselburgh 1st race 10/11 Won £9.09
Leopardstown 3rd race 6/5 Won £18.00
Lingfield 3rd race 8/11 Lost £0.90

Loss on Day = £487.01

Sunday 16th September
Ffos Las 2nd race 5/4 Won £15.00
Currah 2nd race 11/8 Won £17.50
Bath 5th race 4/7 Lost £58.58

Loss on Day = £26.08

Monday 17th September
Hexham 3rd race 13/8 Won £35.00
Brighton 2nd race 13/8 Won £22.50
Worcester 1st race 4/1 Won £40.00
Galway Lost £310
Kempton 3rd race 2/7 Lost £18.52

Loss on Day = £231.02

Tuesday 18th September
Yarmouth 1st race 1/2 Won £5.00
Lingfield 1st race 6/4 Won £15.00
Redcar 3rd race 7/2 Won £110.00
Galway 1st race 8/15 Won £5.33
Kempton 4th race 13/8 Won £60.00

Profit on Day = £195.33

Wednesday 19th September
Sandown 1st race 7/4 Won £17.50
Beverley 4th race 11/4 Won £150.00
Yarmouth 2nd race 2/1 Won £30.00
Naas 4th race 4/7 Lost £24.29
Kelso 1st race 6/4 Won £15.00

Profit on Day = £188.21

Thursday 20th September
Yarmouth
Ayr
Pontefract
Clonmel
Chelmsford

Profit/Loss on Day =

Friday 21st September
Newbury
Ayr
Newton Abbot
Newcastle

Profit/Loss on Day =

Loss on Week = -£218.91

Crawling your way back happysandwich, keep going

Andrew,

Might break even by Friday – fingers crossed.

Having 3 losing meetings in one week I don’t remember that happening back in the day.

Only £218.91 down on the week after those 3 lost £930 ain’t  too bad.

Hope you might keep going another week hs and as someone mentioned earlier perhaps exclude Ireland.

"Having 3 losing meetings in one week I don’t remember that happening back in the day."



Happy - You started 14th Sept, so I did a very quick check for the preceding 8 days on the BBC Results
Page which just shows the Race Winners :-

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/horse-racing/uk-ireland/results/2018-09-06

That shows there were 5 Meetings (listed below) which did not have a Fav win in the first 5 Races :-
     
6th Sept - Haydock
7th Sept - Newcastle
8th Sept - Navan
9th Sept - Fontwell
10th Sept -
11th Sept - Worcester
12th Sept -
13th Sept -

Including your Results, that means there have been 8 meetings between 6th-19th Sept, that have not had
a fav winner (first 5 Races), for a loss of £2480 across 14 days. You aren't picking up enough on the
winners to cover those losses.

6th Sept is as far back as the BBC Site goes, and I can't be bothered to check back any further on any
other Site, but it doesn't look promising.

Mice-elf and-eye

Thanks for taking the time doing that, it’s an eye opener for me. (forgive the pun). It just confirms my gut feeling that being able to Lay horses has had an impact on results.

When I did it back then there were only 2 or 3 meetings a day and I would avoid meetings where there were big fields because big price Favs are too risky to rely on. The other type of meeting I avoided was small fields where there were 2 or 3 odds on Favs, a 4/7 in the 4th is a waste of time and money.

What got me thinking back then was looking at the previous days results in the paper and trying to find the common denominator or what have all those Winners got in common.  It wasn’t the Trainer, Jockey or race distance.

The answer was nothing really, except at every meeting there was at least one that had the word FAV after it’s name. Then I did a check like you did and it seemed too good to be true.

So the next day there were two meetings and I decided I would give it a try by doubling up starting with a tenner. Can’t remember the two meetings but the start would have been 2.00 and 2.15 so £10 on both Favs and both got beaten.

Then it was £20 on the 2.30 and it won at 5/2 – no more bets at that meeting.

Then £20 on the 2.45 it lost so £40 on the 3.15 and it came in at 11/4 no more bets at that meeting

I’d made £120 on the day.


To be continued …….

I won’t post any more results on this thread after Friday, instead if you cut & paste the meetings below into “Word” you can fill in the results yourselves with your own Do’s & Don’ts list and maybe different stakes.

This is just an example you could make your own list before Saturday and maybe share it. :-

1. No Irish meetings.
2. Ignore meetings where 2 of the first 5 Favs are likely to be 4/1 or bigger.
3. Ignore meetings where 2 of the first 5 Favs are likely to be Odds on.
4. Stipulate whether in the case of jt or co Favs race card number is highest or lowest for the selection.
5. First 4 races only – Stake = £20, £40, £80 & £160 = £300
6. ………..

Saturday 22nd Sept
Ayr
Chelmsford
Newbury
Catterick
Newmarket
Wolverhampton
Gowran Park (IRE)

Profit/Loss on Day = £

Sunday 23rd Sept
Hamilton
Uttoxeter
Plumpton
Navan (IRE)

Profit/Loss on Day = £

Monday 24th Sept
Hamilton
Kempton
Leicester
Newcastle
Faityhouse (IRE)

Profit/Loss on Day = £

Tuesday 25th Sept
Lingfield
Beverley
Warwick
Chelmsford

Profit/Loss on Day = £

Wednesday 26th Sept
Goodwood
Perth
Redcar
Wolverhampton

Profit/Loss on Day = £

Thursday 27th Sept
Kempton
Newmarket
Perth
Pontefract

Profit/Loss on Day = £

Friday 28th Sept
Haydock
Newcastle
Newmarket
Worcester

Profit/Loss on Day =

Saturday 29th Sept
Chelmsford
Chester
Haydock Park
Market Rasen
Newmarket
Ripon

Profit/Loss on Day = £

Profit/Loss on Week = £

The Irish meeting on Monday 24th is at Fairyhouse (IRE) NOT Faityhouse (IRE).

about another 200 lost today?

I concur.  And as your all aware some Lay betters / traders use this information as part of their strategy. A fine example today, with only two favourites winning out of seven races at Yarmouth, and similarly  the preceding two days !!!

Sorry about that Charlton2005 I was busy and almost forgot about looking at my thread, nothing sinister.
£146.25 loss to be exact.

I spent all that time making the above template of next weeks meetings and not one person has told me they have cut and pasted it. Sad.



Friday 14th Sept
Chester 1st race 4/6 Won £6.66
Doncaster 4th race 2/1 Won £90 - That’s £80@2/1 = £160 less £70 loss 3 previous races.
Listowel 1st race 3/1 Won £30
Salisbury 2nd race 1/8 Lost £7.50 - That’s £20@1/8 = £2.50 less £10 loss on 1st race.
Sandown 1st race 9/4 Won £22.50

Profit on Day = £141.66

Saturday 15th Sept
Chester  Lost £310
Chelmsford 2nd race 9/4 Won £35.00
Listowel Lost £310
Doncaster 2nd race 5/2 Won £40.00
Bath 2nd race 2/1 Won £30.00
Musselburgh 1st race 10/11 Won £9.09
Leopardstown 3rd race 6/5 Won £18.00
Lingfield 3rd race 8/11 Lost £0.90

Loss on Day = £487.01

Sunday 16th September
Ffos Las 2nd race 5/4 Won £15.00
Currah 2nd race 11/8 Won £17.50
Bath 5th race 4/7 Lost £58.58

Loss on Day = £26.08

Monday 17th September
Hexham 3rd race 13/8 Won £35.00
Brighton 2nd race 13/8 Won £22.50
Worcester 1st race 4/1 Won £40.00
Galway Lost £310
Kempton 3rd race 2/7 Lost £18.52

Loss on Day = £231.02

Tuesday 18th September
Yarmouth 1st race 1/2 Won £5.00
Lingfield 1st race 6/4 Won £15.00
Redcar 3rd race 7/2 Won £110.00
Galway 1st race 8/15 Won £5.33
Kempton 4th race 13/8 Won £60.00

Profit on Day = £195.33

Wednesday 19th September
Sandown 1st race 7/4 Won £17.50
Beverley 4th race 11/4 Won £150.00
Yarmouth 2nd race 2/1 Won £30.00
Naas 4th race 4/7 Lost £24.29
Kelso 1st race 6/4 Won £15.00

Profit on Day = £188.21

Thursday 20th September
Yarmouth 3rd race 13/8 Won £35.00
Ayr Lost £310
Pontefract 2nd race 11/4 Won £45.00
Clonmel 1st race 11/4 Won £27.50
Chelmsford 1st race 13/8 Won £16.25

Loss on Day = -£146.25

Friday 21st September
Newbury
Ayr
Newton Abbot
Newcastle

Profit/Loss on Day =

Loss on Week = -£365.16

September and the start of Autumn probably not the best time to begin this system as horses start to go in their coat and fields get bigger as trainers are desperate to get runs into horses who have been kept away from the racecourse due to firm ground. I think the ideal time to have run this would have been between May and August.

@posy

You could be right there, when I first done it it was in the middle of summer and horses were probably running more to form.

Your reasoning would certainly indicate why there are more false favourites at the moment.

Thanks for the heads up and Good luck today.

The last meeting of the week, Dundalk, done me up causing a £364.02 loss overall.

Those who said leave Irish racing alone were proved correct.


Friday 14th Sept
Chester 1st race 4/6 Won £6.66
Doncaster 4th race 2/1 Won £90 - That’s £80@2/1 = £160 less £70 loss 3 previous races.
Listowel 1st race 3/1 Won £30
Salisbury 2nd race 1/8 Lost £7.50 - That’s £20@1/8 = £2.50 less £10 loss on 1st race.
Sandown 1st race 9/4 Won £22.50

Profit on Day = £141.66

Saturday 15th Sept
Chester  Lost £310
Chelmsford 2nd race 9/4 Won £35.00
Listowel Lost £310
Doncaster 2nd race 5/2 Won £40.00
Bath 2nd race 2/1 Won £30.00
Musselburgh 1st race 10/11 Won £9.09
Leopardstown 3rd race 6/5 Won £18.00
Lingfield 3rd race 8/11 Lost £0.90

Loss on Day = £487.01

Sunday 16th September
Ffos Las 2nd race 5/4 Won £15.00
Currah 2nd race 11/8 Won £17.50
Bath 5th race 4/7 Lost £58.58

Loss on Day = £26.08

Monday 17th September
Hexham 3rd race 13/8 Won £35.00
Brighton 2nd race 13/8 Won £22.50
Worcester 1st race 4/1 Won £40.00
Galway Lost £310
Kempton 3rd race 2/7 Lost £18.52

Loss on Day = £231.02

Tuesday 18th September
Yarmouth 1st race 1/2 Won £5.00
Lingfield 1st race 6/4 Won £15.00
Redcar 3rd race 7/2 Won £110.00
Galway 1st race 8/15 Won £5.33
Kempton 4th race 13/8 Won £60.00

Profit on Day = £195.33

Wednesday 19th September
Sandown 1st race 7/4 Won £17.50
Beverley 4th race 11/4 Won £150.00
Yarmouth 2nd race 2/1 Won £30.00
Naas 4th race 4/7 Lost £24.29
Kelso 1st race 6/4 Won £15.00

Profit on Day = £188.21

Thursday 20th September
Yarmouth 3rd race 13/8 Won £35.00
Ayr Lost £310
Pontefract 2nd race 11/4 Won £45.00
Clonmel 1st race 11/4 Won £27.50
Chelmsford 1st race 13/8 Won £16.25

Loss on Day = -£146.25

Friday 21st September
Newbury 2nd race 9/4 Won £35.00
Ayr 1st race 13/8 Won £16.25
Newton Abbot 4th race 4/1 Won £250.00
Newcastle 1st race 13/8 Won £16.25
Ballinrobe 2nd race 2/11 Lost £6.36
Dundalk Lost £310

Profit on Day = £1.14

Loss on Week = -£364.02

Maybe try not doing odds on, or doing them by time of race rather than meetings, or both.

I wonder how you would fare doing 2nd favs?

you're heading for £160 on the fav for the Ayr Gold Cup.

one race to make or break your week ...

Happysandwich,

What posy stated makes sense, form is generally more reliable in the summer months June-August and one week is far too short to test any system anyway.

I have to be honest i'm not sure there is viable system that will make it pay over the long term, and in yours, you are relying on bookmakers pricing and they don't always get it right.

I think today is a typical example in the Ayr Gold Cup with Son Of Rest. I appreciate it's a large liability to return your £364.02 loss to O, but it's completely under-priced (it will probably hose up now i've stated that).

Good luck.

Andrew,

I’m not suggesting anyone do it as it is but copy & paste next weeks template that I’ve put up into Word.

See 20 Sep 18 14:12 post.

Then tweek and publish it with their own list of variations at the top of the page  on their own thread.

Would be interesting if a couple done it, if only for comparison.

And something better to do other than gambling.

Laying Son Of Rest to win is not gambling

Back by public demand for one day only.

The 5th race Favourite at Wolverhampton was Andrew's Lay bet for today, so I Layed it for £100.

And that my friends is how the cookie crumbles.

Saturday 22nd Sept
Ayr 1st race 5/6 Won £8.33
Chelmsford 3rd race 8/13 Lost £5.38
Newbury 5th race 11/4 Won £290.00
Catterick 3rd Race 5/2 Won £70.00
Newmarket 4th Race 7/2 Won £280.00
Gowran Park (IRE) 1st race 4/6 Won £6.66
Wolverhampton Lost £310

Profit  = £339.61

"Laying Son Of Rest to win is not gambling"

Did it lose?

hosed up, won 4L

@eldar

I didn’t bet on anything on this thread it was just an exercise.

Read what I wrote on my first post and in the early 70’s today’s profit at £100 a point would have been £6,212.80.
Putting that kind of money into prospective a new Range Rover cost £2,500.

If you don’t believe me try paper trading it yourself using the template above. Instead of 5 races take a risk and double up  for 4 and maybe be a little more selective with your choice of race.

With a bit luck you can build up your stakes and bet in hundreds like I did.
Today's results, although exceptional, prove it can be done. I know because I did it.

Ayr should have been  :-

Ayr 4th Race Won 9/2 Won £290.00
Not
Ayr 1st race 5/6 Won £8.33

Daily Profit  = £621.28

Happysandwich,

WD, you've recovered well.

eldar    22 Sep 18 22:56

"Laying Son Of Rest to win is not gambling"

Did it lose?

Elder, no it didn't, but a 5/1 became a 5/2 lay so any losses would have at least been reduced. I didn't fancy it at all (even for a first 3 place) and thought it was a false favourite.

I did state it was well handicapped and would love the ground, but i simply called it wrong.

In mitigation i didn't lay it and backed the winner at 40/44 + the place at 5.2 if you look at my lay thread

WD

eldar,

I have to confess i was very lucky with the winner.

I noticed a AYR GC thread with selections and took about 3-4 minutes looking through a few outsiders before posting mine. If the thread hadn't been up, i wouldn't have back it.