Calling the Dixon brothers

9's {365}

Curious as there was 0 liquidity on here when the likes of me tried to back it and you won't be backing it @ around 4's tomorrow #bookmakerbettinggravyprivileges

Sep 11, 2018 -- 2:30PM, Deltâ wrote:

9's {365}

My guess would've been the industry top price 10's,could've had a £ on @ 10s with 356 but wasn't worth the effort signing in.

Martin,Chris are any of you there? Has Mick got on?

Hope there's no thoughts of withdrawal we're watching

Any updates will the betting peasants hear of this mega gamble on Coral TV (don't know anyone who watches).
Are you lot still advertising racing software with the supposed edge over 99% of punters?
The only edge you lot have is you can somehow bet with bookmakers when non clueless punters not involved in horse racing can bet fcuk all that is your edge and if you still can't win you should give up,if you can win how the fcuk are you getting bets on #gravytrainbettingpriviliges #onlyindustrywhereequalitymeansfcukall

There appears to have been a falling out - and I don't mean between Denzil and the Dixon bruvs - Walkman (1.50 Don), moved from Coley to Mick Applegel, but still in the same ownership.

Quite impressive the amount of ground he made up to win at Salisbury and the form is working out. He looks like he's a got about him physically and looks open to progress, but, not proven on the ground, but will be interested to see how he goes here, and interesting to note that Mick also had him entered for the Listed race on Friday.

very easy winner.

cant be better....paid to talk about racing and getting bets on without issue...GL to them

dixons celebrating like they won plenty.

embarrassing for meehan. must have 2 stone in hand

race was over as the horse lorry pulled out at Micks this morning...

thats 2 boats of gravieeey EACH for the chips tonight

to be fair they are pundits not journalists. It's the journalists who shd be doing more over bookmakers refusing bets. And these two seem pretty shrewd i doubt any bookies are letting them get too much on.

I would imagine firms are more than happy to lay them a fair bet to get the mark...

Good luck to them...they seem to buy well

was thinking the same grayhawk...

Sep 12, 2018 -- 11:25AM, TheFear wrote:

to be fair they are pundits not journalists. It's the journalists who shd be doing more over bookmakers refusing bets. And these two seem pretty shrewd i doubt any bookies are letting them get too much on.

cmon saaheq

denzil just run it past us what evidence you have that people in the industry get thousands on for not speaking out?

CD was interviewed on ATR the other day and he said they [the horse watchers] bet their horse that won but the morning money was nothing to do with them as they cant get on

most people can satisfy their staking requirements on here close to the off, which they did it seems

exactly. If they could get what they want on they'd be putting on for some other shrewdies too. If all media types could get what they want on they'd link up with pro punters/insiders and wipe the firms out.

Sep 19, 2018 -- 5:13AM, TheFear wrote:

denzil just run it past us what evidence you have that people in the industry get thousands on for not speaking out?

Who said anything about getting 1000's on?
Common sense tells anybody that those in the game who bet ARE being accommodated by bookmakers,do you think they are all betting on Betfair at race time as wondersobright seems to think without any protest about missing prices on horses they've paid lots of money for to buy and keep?
Are they all working for betting entities without any discouragement from not being able to take a price for their horse and are the rest betting on the track?
Haway it's fantasy island stuff look at the likes of Mick Easterby,Sir Mark Prescott or any old time trainer or owner that likes a bet are they really betting on exchanges at racetime?
Birchy's column was always littered with aftertimed bets of several £100s on horses that collapsed in price,does anybody think the likes of him would be getting bets on win or lose when everyone not in the game who isn't clueless gets pennies early at best.

Sep 19, 2018 -- 6:19AM, TheFear wrote:

exactly. If they could get what they want on they'd be putting on for some other shrewdies too. If all media types could get what they want on they'd link up with pro punters/insiders and wipe the firms out.

So your opinion is they all bet at racetime on exchanges/track and aren't accommodated by bookmakers unless they are losers?
Everyone knows that's bolox just look at the David Evans case,who's moving all these markets daily and why when nobody can bet?

How can alot of these survive in the game without being able to bet with bookmakers that is complete fiction.
Why is there no outcry from within the game especially where money is involved?

So your opinion is they all bet at racetime on exchanges/track and aren't accommodated by bookmakers unless they are losers

nobody said anything about all

this is a thread about the dixons & in particular saaheq

Sep 19, 2018 -- 6:52AM, wondersobright wrote:

So your opinion is they all bet at racetime on exchanges/track and aren't accommodated by bookmakers unless they are losersnobody said anything about allthis is a thread about the dixons & in particular saaheq

Was talking to the fear with that particular reply,as far as the Dixons go I saw that interview with Weaver and laughed,how many times in the past have we heard Chris Dixon in particular say 'I backed him/her @ insert price but isn't much value now' countless is the answer.
At the same time I'm sitting at home thinking I can get best part of f all with bookmakers and these are the experts so how is this possible?
Who are all the tipsters some who will receive comparatively large wages tipping for? Do they not bet themselves? Why would anyone like the Dixons who racing seems to be their life not distance themselves from a duplicitous industry like the betting industry as they still could exist working as pundits and betting on exchanges,instead they work for the industry who won't take their bets no problems no negatives just take a wage that is hard to believe.

you might be overrating how shrewd media types are, most of them, including the ones who give it the big un on twitter etc, are hopeless punters.

What Chris Dixon said after the race is absolutely corect.

Sep 19, 2018 -- 7:34AM, TheFear wrote:

you might be overrating how shrewd media types are, most of them, including the ones who give it the big un on twitter etc, are hopeless punters.

agree 100%...hopeless [small staking] punters

yes wonder, and thank you barton

So those that profess to be professional punters or long term winners and are involved in horse racing whether it be owner,trainer,media,tipster don't get bets on with bookmakers unless they are clueless that's the majority conclusion.
That has to be the biggest pile of horse shyte I've ever heard if that was the case there'd be uproar amongst owners and trainers who fork out vast sums to keep their horses and in some trainers' cases survive the game but can't bet decent sums to recoup any expense.
I've said this before my uncle kept telling me about his acquaintance Phil Williams who had £15,000 @ various prices 66s mainly on his horse Son Of Flicka to win a million at Cheltenham,some of which was in shop.
I told him I visited a few shops backing the horse and online because bookmakers don't take bets and since I'm not worth £100 million he thought I was billy bulls hitting until proven otherwise which I did.
FWIW betting on horse racing has been my income for more than 10 years and I started with buttons at very small stakes and have had accounts restricted/closed plus knockbacks in shops most of that time so stake size has less to do with this issue than what who you are does in my experience,in fact when I still had a normal job and was betting on greyhounds there were limits almost instantly.

Can't speak for anyone else but the facts regarding the owners getting bets on Saaheq are correct.
It's a very different market getting bets on the Cheltenham Festival than it is a run of the mill handicap at Doncaster in midweek.

Don't think Mr Williams gets knocked back the rest of time either that was part of the reason of not being believed initially.
On another note was buying a car about a month ago the conversation got onto betting because he asked what I did the guy told me about Northern owners he knew who regularly got 4 figure bets on with bookmakers and he presumed they were winning with it though couldn't be sure.
He then told me of his grandad who recently died who was a William Hill VIP for years having 25k on Man Utd to win the league,paid trips to Cheltenham,Ascot,Saint Andrews etc. would regularly bet 4 figures on everyday racing obviously this guy had money and was a serial loser which the guy said as much early in the conversation.
Though left his entire family good lumps 13 grandchildren £200K each plus he got bought a 65K Audi and others got presents too money no issue.
That case backs up the take anything off deep pocketed losers and nothing off moderate staked potential winners attitude.