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Not on my daily bets but I've put £500 on this at 2/1 this morning.
As a brother to a horse I've done my spuds on a couple of times in Mori, there is a risk the family could be a bit flash on the gallops but he was so weak as a 2yo no one could believe Sir Michael even ran him, so the result was not a surprise.
He scored a wind score 2 when scoped and had his wind done and since then the horse has just progressed rapidly.
His work companion Sextent made an impressive win at Newbury on Saturday and this looks a weaker contest.
In his most recent gallop he was asked by Ryan Moore to stride out with Hidden Depths (80 rated horse, ran to 75 on Saturday at Newbury) and he was sent 7L clear under Moore. The gallop was to test his wind and Ryan didn't hear any noise at all.
He only needs to run to 80 to win this, and he is more than capable of doing that. He needs top of the ground and he could be a very nice horse.
Ignore his debut run and he is plenty fit enough and would have run in June, but for a breathing issue.
Yard confidence is high and Moore is expected to bring this home in front.
Good luck if you play.
As a brother to a horse I've done my spuds on a couple of times in Mori, there is a risk the family could be a bit flash on the gallops but he was so weak as a 2yo no one could believe Sir Michael even ran him, so the result was not a surprise.
He scored a wind score 2 when scoped and had his wind done and since then the horse has just progressed rapidly.
His work companion Sextent made an impressive win at Newbury on Saturday and this looks a weaker contest.
In his most recent gallop he was asked by Ryan Moore to stride out with Hidden Depths (80 rated horse, ran to 75 on Saturday at Newbury) and he was sent 7L clear under Moore. The gallop was to test his wind and Ryan didn't hear any noise at all.
He only needs to run to 80 to win this, and he is more than capable of doing that. He needs top of the ground and he could be a very nice horse.
Ignore his debut run and he is plenty fit enough and would have run in June, but for a breathing issue.
Yard confidence is high and Moore is expected to bring this home in front.
Good luck if you play.
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Aug 20, 2018 -- 5:04PM, Deltâ wrote:
Andrews lay
not yet,, but could well be
0- Clean Wind
1 - Minor ailment, doesn't need op, but can be operated
2 - Definite overhang of skin blocking the larynx, best advised to hobday and tie back
3 - Secondary overhnag, likely will grow back even if operated, advised to hobay and tie back, but likely will grow back in same place, tubing may be advisable.
4 - Can't breathe full stop, soft pallet looks beyond repair and even tubing not guaranteed success as wind pipe too narrow, prognosis, horse unlikely to ever be able to race to true potential, or breathe properly under exertion.
You'll be amazed how many trainers send horses who have had a wind test and scored 3 or 4, to DBS Doncaster or Ascot Tatts where horses are sold as scene and can't be returned on failing a wind test.
1 - Minor ailment, doesn't need op, but can be operated
2 - Definite overhang of skin blocking the larynx, best advised to hobday and tie back
3 - Secondary overhnag, likely will grow back even if operated, advised to hobay and tie back, but likely will grow back in same place, tubing may be advisable.
4 - Can't breathe full stop, soft pallet looks beyond repair and even tubing not guaranteed success as wind pipe too narrow, prognosis, horse unlikely to ever be able to race to true potential, or breathe properly under exertion.
You'll be amazed how many trainers send horses who have had a wind test and scored 3 or 4, to DBS Doncaster or Ascot Tatts where horses are sold as scene and can't be returned on failing a wind test.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_cqRwBoJvA
"Ignore his debut run and he is plenty fit enough and would have run in June, but for a breathing issue."
He had his wind surgery in May, so a little worried he still had a breathing issue in June!!!
He had his wind surgery in May, so a little worried he still had a breathing issue in June!!!
Trysty, what don't you understand from what I have put?
The horse was in full work and expected to be running in June, but for them discovering a breathing ailment and operating. The ailment only reared it's head when he was starting his serious work (late April/early May), and they operated, and then he had 3/4 weeks on the easy list whilst recovering, and was gradually brought along again.
I never stated above he had a breathing issue in June, I stated he would have been running in June, but for his breathing ailment being discovered.
try reading what I put, rather than trying to twist my words Thank You.
The horse was in full work and expected to be running in June, but for them discovering a breathing ailment and operating. The ailment only reared it's head when he was starting his serious work (late April/early May), and they operated, and then he had 3/4 weeks on the easy list whilst recovering, and was gradually brought along again.
I never stated above he had a breathing issue in June, I stated he would have been running in June, but for his breathing ailment being discovered.
try reading what I put, rather than trying to twist my words Thank You.
....."but for a breathing issue" is not the same as "but for the breathing issue". So unfortunately your English was not correct as "a" did not imply the breathing issue already discovered. Thank You.
dom ,this better win,, if i doesnt , this thread will be full of shoit in no time
place lay for me at 1/3 because probably it wins 5L as stated by Dom or it just destined for the glue factory.
The breathing issue wasn't discovered when he was being aimed at a June return !!! It was discovered when the work was stepped up, Jesus Wept. There is nothing wrong with my initial post, you have just tried to be clever, mixing my words.
The Cox horse ran to a solid 82 last time out. Midi could run 2nd to it and run a perfectly acceptable return after such an absence and there are a couple of nicely bred newcomers. However Midi has been showing enough at home to suggest he can take care of this level of opposition, he would only be future glue if he was hopelessly tailed off, which is definitely not expected.
wasn't getting beat once he bagged the golden highway .. good call
Nice winner, not for me, but thanks for sharing the info.
Well done Dom, pleased for you.
I and Andrew saved £100 each by not Laying it.
So it was a Win/Win all round.
Good Luck
I and Andrew saved £100 each by not Laying it.
So it was a Win/Win all round.
Good Luck
Domino.....I respect your insight , but " future glue" is a vile phrase to describe a beautiful animal....think on.
@Richgit
It was in response to the person who said was destined for the glue factory, I was only replying to their stupid suggestion.
It was in response to the person who said was destined for the glue factory, I was only replying to their stupid suggestion.
well done dom! good call and thanks for putting up details that many not privy too !
Domino....ok, fair enough.
But the "dark side" is best left unmentioned I reckon.
But the "dark side" is best left unmentioned I reckon.
Daddy Domi's Daily Diary? 
few more of these and even Shafty might subscribe..
few more of these and even Shafty might subscribe..
Pretty sick at the moment. The 3 forum heavyweights (OP, AiS + Mart) going at it.
Agree with the comment about giving them time to see what happens. Hope toxic posters, such a Irish, steer clear.
Agree with the comment about giving them time to see what happens. Hope toxic posters, such a Irish, steer clear.
Good tip Dom I backed Kiirby who looked like he was coming with a winning run then decided not to bother riding incase he only just got beat. About time we got value for money with jockeys. Too many taking the ferking crap out of us.
The 2nd was beaten fair and square in my opinion. Having the rail is a big advantage at Windsor and so is getting first run, anyone who has ridden will know what I mean about first run, as your horse is in top stride and going forward, it's very hard to get by a horse that is going forward when it already has first run on you, unless you are on a horse which is far superior. Kirby wasn't. Had he made his move the same time as Ryan, he may have given the winner more of a race, but I think the result would have still been the same with Moore on the rail.
Aug 21, 2018 -- 12:35AM, ProSniper wrote:
Daddy Domi's Daily Diary? few more of these and even Shafty might subscribe..
Diddy Dom's Dilly Dilly Daily Diary?
Lmao willie. You make a good point about the rail Dom but at one point Kiirby gets level and then just gives up but agree would still have lost. Back to the same old wanting to see more effort lol,
Lmao willie. You make a good point about the rail Dom but at one point Kiirby gets level and then just gives up but agree would still have lost. Back to the same old wanting to see more effort lol,
Diddy Dom's Dilly Dilly Daily Diary? .. Looks like mousey needs more convincing 
.. another £500 fantasy bet with Ricardo. And any hope for Shafty was just about extinguished I think..
.. another £500 fantasy bet with Ricardo. And any hope for Shafty was just about extinguished I think..
Just a bit of fun with alliteration.
@davethehat
Not convinced the second ever got upsides Dave. The camera angle at Windsor can be very deceptive until it straightens up late on. I doubt the 2nd ever got any closer to the winner than it did at the line.
Not convinced the second ever got upsides Dave. The camera angle at Windsor can be very deceptive until it straightens up late on. I doubt the 2nd ever got any closer to the winner than it did at the line.
I know it's a dodgy angle Dom lol. There is a point imo about furlong out where he seems to be levelish and going better and did go 1.5 in running so one or two others must have felt the same lol. But Gud winner all the same
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