Fixed Commission Rate

no

Yes, if you can haggle for under 2%

no imo

i thought it might be for small, regular winners. Say you win £200 a day. Push it  bit and still get your £200 even at the higher % on each market.

if you never lose yes

otherwise you have to work out charges/profits for your method

Zodie would know the best way to play it.

it's just a different  way of collecting PC . if after 2/3 months they have collected less than what they would have with the straight 20%-60% , they will up your fixed rate . if they have taken too much , they will lower it

Drop it to one percent and I will be very happy.

it's the psychological aspect i was referring to. Psychologically a small winner may push it a bit more to win a daily total.

Surely if you could get 8-10% it would be worth it? as im already paying 4.4% no matter what

it's just a different  way of collecting PC . if after 2/3 months they have collected less than what they would have with the straight 20%-60% , they will up your fixed rate . if they have taken too much , they will lower it

that is what i was told effectively by 2 guys at betfair . like dave1357 says , there may well be times that you will be better off depending on how you play , but i just got the impression that if you are better off, they will just up the rate

so how much are you winning a day fear? coz clearing 6k a month doesn't sound small to me

betfair should make it 60%  for p/charge,,  get rid of the scum i say

tomh'

80k pa he sayed

didn't he say about 3 times lately that he lost £500 on a saturday, billy big bollox player wouldn't sniff at losing that surely

im a small player if that's aimed at me. Lost a grand yesterday if that makes you feel better

If you traded and were winning relatively little and often then it would be like Christmas everyday. But if you did that they wouldn't offer it in the first place.

john , they would just set the fixed rate percentage appropriate to your figures , so that they are not getting less every month ( on average ) than they would if you was on a straight 40% per week

Aye, I was meaning the sort of 9% figure that's been thrown about. I can't see them offering a 26% fixed rate for example.

9% if you are on 20% PC yes .

i don't quite know the maths behind it , but betfair will not be putting anyone on a fixed rate if it means they will be getting less from you .

i am on 40% and was offered something like 17%-18%

Tell betfair you are an emperor they might sell you some new clothes as well.

Fckin hell, I'm surprised they would offer 18%. That would just p1ss me off if I got offered that. They are better not bothering.

They'll have some profit/turnover/number of bets type formula I'm guessing.

yes john , they go by your past P+Ls and commission generated, PC rate, how much you pay each week/month average etc

watwniir

So what ur saying then is if i got 9% and had no losses after 3 months they would bump it up to a crazy %?

RL , it was explained to me that it is just a different way of taking PC . so i would say yes . if you are on 20% PC and had no losses , they would re-calculate it after 3 months and see how far short they are of what they would have collected at 20% PC , and adjust your fixed rate accordingly .

if betfair would lose out putting you on a fix rate, then it is 1.01 that they wouldn't put you on it .

i have been on betfair about 10 years , and have never had anything from them , no hat , no scarf , not even a letter through the post lol

they give nothing away

So basically its only good for 3 months then go back to normal

i think , if you won and loss in the next 3 months consistently and very similar to the way you did the previous 3/6/12 months, you would be no better off .

someone else may be able to clarify that tbh RL