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Willie Shafter.
06 Jul 18 15:33
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mind boggling..stopped it numerous times in slo mo before and after line and not once did i have the winner as the winner yet its won 9 inches.

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By:
mouse muldoon
When: 06 Jul 18 15:39
Diane?
By:
scaredmoney
When: 06 Jul 18 15:40
Russ ?
By:
carrot1960
When: 06 Jul 18 15:42
I backed the winner and actually thought it had got up but could not believe the photo betting GrinGrinGrin
By:
tomhunt
When: 06 Jul 18 15:50
have to agree shafty, filed in the carlisle photo folder
By:
mouse muldoon
When: 06 Jul 18 15:51
Belinda?
By:
Willie Shafter.
When: 06 Jul 18 15:53
i thought winner had won live..stopped many times in slo mo and could get it close to winning..
By:
alun2005
When: 06 Jul 18 15:53
Frankie?
By:
Biscar Two from a mile back
When: 06 Jul 18 15:57
I wondered the same nowhere does it look so clear cut.
By:
tomhunt
When: 06 Jul 18 15:58
belinda was fit but just something about wiedlin for me
By:
Willie Shafter.
When: 06 Jul 18 15:58
same as carlisle that day..totally out of sync.
By:
grayhawk
When: 06 Jul 18 16:05
Missed the race....what was the photo betting?
By:
Willie Shafter.
When: 06 Jul 18 16:05
nothing like what it looked...


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By:
jamesdean
When: 06 Jul 18 16:11
1.04 to 1.2 the runner up in photo
By:
grayhawk
When: 06 Jul 18 16:14
Cheers James....i've dodged a bullet cos i'd just froze it on ATR site and would have deffo backed the far side

Just doesn't look the same race Willie Shocked

Newton Abbot logged for future reference..
By:
grayhawk
When: 06 Jul 18 16:16
I'd pause it about 6 inches further forward than you Willie and it still looks far side for me...
By:
grayhawk
When: 06 Jul 18 16:16
* paused it
By:
mouse muldoon
When: 06 Jul 18 16:19
What you want is a lad bang on the line facetiming it.
By:
Zsa_Zsa_Gabors_Leg
When: 06 Jul 18 16:20
9" = average size jordy peenus
By:
RacingLuck
When: 06 Jul 18 16:24
ur still is before the line willie as the jocks arms ain't stretched out like the official photo
By:
howard
When: 06 Jul 18 16:39
that's what I thought RL.
By:
howard
When: 06 Jul 18 16:43
If you were standing on the line rather than the tv camera angle ( which looks forward to the line and therefore makes it look like the horses are nearer the line than they are ) you would see that this still is before the line.
By:
broadsword
When: 06 Jul 18 16:52
could well be 2ft before line that still
By:
Willie Shafter.
When: 06 Jul 18 16:57
RacingLuck    06 Jul 18 16:24 
ur still is before the line willie as the jocks arms ain't stretched out like the official photo

thats becos the arns are a yard behind when the head goes over the mirror ..Crazy
By:
Willie Shafter.
When: 06 Jul 18 17:01
you cannot stop it anywhere and make the winner a clear winner.


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By:
Dr Crippen
When: 06 Jul 18 17:13
Still before the line, the winners legs on the photo.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 06 Jul 18 17:14
It would certainly have caught me out.
By:
Willie Shafter.
When: 06 Jul 18 17:14
bollox
By:
RacingLuck
When: 06 Jul 18 17:18
im just shocked at the prices as that still i cant tell who won
By:
Willie Shafter.
When: 06 Jul 18 17:20
exactly..yet one has won easily.
By:
cardenden
When: 06 Jul 18 17:27
wullie  done loads today,,  but hey , he only shows his p/l  when he winsLaughLaugh
By:
Willie Shafter.
When: 06 Jul 18 17:27
-0.07
By:
bettinghelp
When: 06 Jul 18 17:29
If you cover the line on the grass with your finger (17:01 post) and look only at the lollipops, you can deffo make a case for the winner.
By:
cardenden
When: 06 Jul 18 17:32
bettinghelp,,can you help wullie please  ,,  hes skint after today
By:
howard
When: 07 Jul 18 09:57
missed the race out in the abbot racing review on atr this morningCry
By:
Willie Shafter.
When: 07 Jul 18 10:07
watch on atr site.
By:
chavman
When: 07 Jul 18 10:47
willie is costelloe
By:
wondersobright
When: 07 Jul 18 12:15
looking at the image in WS jul 6th 5.01pm post, I would say the heads were past the line

but judged by the official print that is where the line is Plain

looks like a case of being fooled by a 2D image of a 3D situation as it looks like far side has definately won to me from the TV angle
another "carlisle esque" foater
By:
RacingLuck
When: 07 Jul 18 12:28
i don't understand how you can call the far side a definite winner Laugh when i think its virtually impossible to call with angle given Excited
By:
Escapee
When: 07 Jul 18 12:46
Willie,

Can you post a still where the position  of the horse's legs match that of the official photo.

That should give an idea of the angle and perspective differences.
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