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By:
mouse muldoon
When: 26 Jun 18 18:16
Pumpkinheed very protective.
By:
Deltâ
When: 26 Jun 18 18:18
thought she had a spell at Cox's
By:
domino14
When: 26 Jun 18 18:18
Life's too comfortable at Daddy's. No get up and go, had a stint at Hannon's turned down loads of rides cause she wouldn't travel. Doesn't matter how talented you are, if you haven't got the hunger you'll never make it in this game. Was stupid her old man giving her a job this year, should have sent her up north and taught her to graft, he can't farm out the chances like O'Brien can for his kids !
By:
domino14
When: 26 Jun 18 18:21
My friends have 8 with O'Meara and one with Griffiths. She was offer to ride one in an apprentice race for O'Meara up at Beverley last year, and then another for David in the seller. The one in the seller had no chance but we expected the one in the apprentice to win. Her agent booked her and rung David at 11.30am saying she didn't want to travel to Beverley for one ride with a chance, as Richard takes half her fee and she would get like £50 after deductions and that wouldn't cover her petrol. We ended up getting a replacement rider and the horse in the seller ran well and the horse in the last won.

Gotta have drive in this game.
By:
hologon
When: 26 Jun 18 18:23
I thought she was based in the north last season
By:
mouse muldoon
When: 26 Jun 18 18:23
Fair enough if it's just a hobby for her, I doubt she'll be going hungry.
By:
ima_mazed66
When: 26 Jun 18 18:26
Hannon's probably wasn't the best yard to go to if wanting to get rides, considering others have left there due to the competition for rides.

I suppose you can half understand not wanting to travel for maybe just the one ride too on a horses the rest of the jockeys in the yard have overlooked, which will probably sum up its chances too.
By:
sparrow
When: 26 Jun 18 18:27
She would learn plenty of bad habits in the north. That much is guaranteed.
By:
domino14
When: 26 Jun 18 18:33
@ima

When you're an apprentice you take whatever rides you can get. In the early 90s when I started riding, I would have driven to Ayr to ride a 100/1 shot in a maiden . You can't turn down rides, you have to make contacts and build up relations to get rides.
By:
Oldgit1
When: 26 Jun 18 18:39
Sparrow: Fallon started in the north.
By:
sparrow
When: 26 Jun 18 18:49
Oldgit, My case rests.
By:
mouse muldoon
When: 26 Jun 18 18:51
Grin
By:
stewarts rise
When: 26 Jun 18 19:00
Is it because she's like royalty now!
By:
grayhawk
When: 26 Jun 18 19:19
hologon
hologon 26 Jun 18 18:23 Joined: 20 Dec 05 | Topic/replies: 2,806 | Blogger: hologon's blog
I thought she was based in the north last season

I thought she had a stint in the north as well hologon....dunno who held her licence mind
By:
Deltâ
When: 26 Jun 18 20:04
Licence has been held by

Hannon
Nicholls
Nicholls


last three starts of season


ridden quite a few [as below] for up norf', not sure if based there?


Alan Swinbank    3    23    13    1    4    2    £15,296    -4.50
Ben Haslam    2    21    10    2    2    2    £9,324    -8.20
Clive Cox    1    18    6    3    2    4    £8,726    -11.50
Brian Ellison    1    16    6    0    4    0    £9,169    -5.00
Ron Hodges    1    10    10    1    2    2    £10,414    -3.00
Oliver Greenall    1    9    11    1    3    2    £6,456    -5.25
Tony Carroll    0    7    0    0    4    0    £1,543    -7.00
Michael Easterby    0    7    0    2    1    1    £4,042    -7.00
By:
grayhawk
When: 26 Jun 18 20:07
Knew you'd be on the case Delta Grin .....ta
By:
domino14
When: 26 Jun 18 20:16
Never been based up north but Ben Haslam used her a lot in her first season and so did Alan Swinbank. Sadly when she moved to Hannon she expected the world to be given to her and it wasn't so went running back to daddy. She was offered a job with Brian Ellison but turned it down.

Delta for your info Clive Cox trains in Lambourn, Ron Hodges in Somerset and Tony Carroll is Evesham way, none of those three are up north, unless you live in Watford lol.
By:
Deltâ
When: 26 Jun 18 20:31
it was a RP c+p of a selection that included norf ones dom'

hth
By:
impossible123
When: 26 Jun 18 20:33
Ben Haslem, did he not use to train Glen Na Smole? I made money off that handicapper in big races.
By:
mouse muldoon
When: 26 Jun 18 20:34
Lambourn is N Berkshire
By:
domino14
When: 26 Jun 18 20:36
@impossible

His Dad, Patrick may have trained that horse, Ben however would struggle to train Ivy up a wall.
By:
impossible123
When: 26 Jun 18 20:36
Could she not have gone to the Easterbys' up Yorkshire?
By:
knot in wood
When: 26 Jun 18 20:39
you got him on the ropes domino, i'm ready 2 throw in the towel any minute.
By:
mouse muldoon
When: 26 Jun 18 20:41
Yes but only 1 of those 3 is N of Watford.
By:
lead on
When: 26 Jun 18 21:03
As stewarts rise hinted she must be getting plenty rides of Harry
By:
doorman99
When: 26 Jun 18 21:04
Harry who?
By:
mouse muldoon
When: 26 Jun 18 21:05
a) Findlay
b) Ramsden
c) Cobden
By:
domino14
When: 26 Jun 18 21:10
@Lead On

Don't think she's with Harry Cobden.
By:
doorman99
When: 26 Jun 18 21:11
Oh, wonderboy Cobden, yawn. 2 over rated brats together then.
By:
mouse muldoon
When: 26 Jun 18 21:11
well it aint a or b
By:
lewisham ranger
When: 26 Jun 18 21:11
probably because trainer's are worried their wives will get jealous Love
By:
lead on
When: 26 Jun 18 21:17
Harry Prince
By:
lead on
When: 26 Jun 18 21:20
just being silly...more importantly is the Naas 6.00 the one you were alluding to a couple of weeks ago,domino?
By:
domino14
When: 26 Jun 18 21:21
She dates Harry Derham as far as I know, or she was very recently.
By:
domino14
When: 26 Jun 18 21:23
@Lead On

No, but the horse does have an entry this week, amongst many others from the yard in the same race ....
By:
lead on
When: 26 Jun 18 21:23
Cheers
By:
ima_mazed66
When: 27 Jun 18 01:35
I understand that domino14 but prize money hasn't really kept up with expenses these days and a lot of youngsters fall by the wayside especially after losing their claim and not getting the chances, when having to ride off levels against more experienced jockeys or they can no longer offer weight off the horse's back like the next batch of apprentices.

It then isn't really financially viable for them to go to Scotland or the northern courses for maybe one ride when going up from Lambourn or Newmarket, especially when you work out what the hourly rate would be from leaving home to getting back home with all of the travelling involved, including you would imagine often having to do the driving themselves and what it takes out of you.

Plus her Dad can still offer her rides and maybe she travels to the courses with him or the stable representative at no financial cost to her.
By:
domino14
When: 27 Jun 18 06:00
@Ima

The question was why she doesn't get more rides, not is it financially viable to ride horse at a meeting up north when you're based down south.

The fact is when a trainer is told an apprentice doesn't want to travel to ride horses for you, it will put you off using them, when you're an apprentice building contacts is the only way to lose your claim.

Megan will never lose her claim just riding for her Dad, he simply doesn't have the number of flat horses that will provide her winners and so on.

The fact is she doesn't get many rides as she isn't hungry enough, when you're an apprentice it's not about making money, it's about riding winners and getting contacts to help you. When you ride for a yard as an apprentice your trainer takes half your riding fee, but they have to pay for half your tack, and also half your traveling expenses as well. However most trainers are quick to have their 50% and would rarely give you a penny towards your tack and transport despite their agreement to do so. I can't remember ever being given petrol money or tack off Barry for the whole time I was his apprentice, but I often shared rides to the track, or if I knew I was riding up north I would travel up the day before (if I wasn't riding) and ride out for a nrothern yard to build new contacts before going racing. Early in my career it was still 24 hour decs, so you have less planning time than riders now, but you always sort of had an idea where you were going to be riding.

It's a shame Megan doesn't appear to be really hungry to build links in the industry as she's actually a very decent rider and excellent value for her claim.
By:
impossible123
When: 27 Jun 18 08:56
'domino', is Harry Derham not trainer Nicholl's nephew ie Megan's cousin? Or have I got the wrong end of the stick?

No grounding is better than away from her dad's establishment to build up her determination, resolution and constitution; best way to develop and progress away from home, as my dad always reminded us of when little.
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