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I'd pick Goodwood as my favourite flat course and it has been a lucky track for me in the past but I'm much more a national hunt man and quite happy at Plumpton or Fontwell on a wet and windy Monday afternoon.
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I've never managed to get to go to Newton Abbot foxy but like Cartmel, it's definitely on my bucket list.
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Hexham
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Les Landes Jersey
6 Bookies ALL WITH DIFFERENT ODDS no follow my leader there all have their own opinion... |
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If you change your mind and decide to go to Newton Abbot (a very nice little racecourse) my advice would be to leave your car at say Cheltenham and get a day return train fare.That way you'll be relaxed and have the pleasure of looking out of the window at the sea on the stretch of coastline through Dawlish. The earlier you book trains the cheaper the prices.
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unlike cartmel slippy newton abbot is an excellent viewing track.the friday we are talking about at newton abbot in the 4 years since they restructured the card we have seen such horses as those below run at the fixture.
copper kay, irish cavalier,wonderful charm,taquin du seuil,solar impulse,double ross,native river,ballyoptic,frodon,art mauresque,black corton,old guard,san benedeto,misterton,marias benefit,diego du charmil and beer goggles,not bad for a friday in october. |
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foxy off topic had a good meal at el pic last night !
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hello posy i do plan to go to sandown this winter and el pic will be on the agenda glad to hear its still very good.
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hopefully we might get a tingle creek to come close to the 2003 race if altior and footpad were both to turn up.
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sorry 2004
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Be quite something if the race matches one of the greatest 2 mile chases of all time.
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it was a great day at sandown in a way it was like a football match all 3 had there supporters it certainly brought a crowd in.i cant think of a champion chase that matched it,perhaps pearlyman,dessie and very promising.
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hopefully we might get a tingle creek to come close to the 2003 race if altior and footpad were both to turn up.
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the meeting taking place or the outcome andrew ?
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T.M.Mac mentioned Hexham , when I visited there I was taken with the fact that there is cover from the elements at the parade ring/saddling boxes . I appreciated that greatly , quite unusual I'd imagine . The 3 courses that I think look impressive from TV coverage are ; Newbury , Haydock and Ascot ( from courses I've not been to yet ).
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Just been last 2 days to Haydock. What was I thinking. The most sterile atmosphere I have ever come across on a racecourse. The management have driven this one time great course into oblivion.Crap cards, nothing for the racegoers to get excited about, terrible food choices and sky high prices. A truly shocking experience. My local course and I won't be back.
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agree try my best today was totally void of any atmosphere ,i thought the weather helped yesterday and the card was ok,there is a change of management after saturday so perhaps things will pick up,however it will never go back to those great midweek fixtures they use to have in the winter back in the 80s and 90s.
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They couldn't even arrange a presentation of the prize to the godolphin connections when Huge Future won its race. Embarrassing
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I'm an Ascot member and whilst the new(ish) stand isn't to everyones taste it grows on you . Not as stuffy as you might think and there's a reasonably good view from the cheaper Queen Anne (ground floor) enclosure.Nowadays I don't bother going up to the King Edward enclosure and prefer to watch races on the round course from between the one and two furlong poles.
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totally agree posy about the winter days out at ascot it really is as good as anywhere ,clashes with haydock a lot so i dont get to go as much as i would like to,re the new stand {not that new anymore }its different class how anybody could not enjoy those facilaties on a winter afternoon is beyond me.
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Foxy - are you giving the East Coast a miss this year ?
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probable non runner this year democrat i would say 1/5 no 11/4 yes.
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That's a shame. Let's hope the 11/4 shortens up !
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Go to Goodwood. Stay in Midhurst!
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Thanks for that info on haydock ( try my
Best.) Have been staying in Chester the Past 2yrs and Haydock had been on the Agenda. Out of curiosity I went to Bangor Many moons ago, is that still worth a day out.? Many thanks. |
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Bangor is fantastic glasgow
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i took someone to bangor once . they had only ever been to york ...so i told them it was very similar . it hammered it down , with a bit of fog chucked in .when the lady realised there wasn't even a stand , just a cow patted muddy field she went back to the car all afternoon . ....bangor is for nice days only .
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Thanks for the replys.
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mini-me - "Go to Goodwood. Stay in Midhurst"!
Go to Goodwood. Stay at the Goodwood Hotel! Free shuttle to the course, golf on the doorstep etc etc |
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summary of our irish trip - first time at all three for me
laytown - good family atmosphere, lots of women/children, people from far and near, decent facilities for a once per year event, definitely glad I went, walked the beach early next morning and no sign of there having been racing the day before, must take a lot of work! kilbeggan - the irish racing experts in the group were pleasantly surprised by the facilities, generally good viewing, smallish crowd (lots of space to move around, easy to get served at the bar), thought I had two decent winners (Queeny and Freewheelin Dylan) coming to the last only to get beat by horse on the inside, had a few beers and singalong in Larrigys afterwards (many thanks to Workrider for the lift), stayed at fantastic airb'n'b in Durrow, had a few beers in O'Connors in Tullamore beforehand, first pub I've been to where they had the full days prices on the panel like you find in betting shops... navan - goodish viewing (not for the 5f races unfortunately as amazingly no large screen!!), very well kept track, poorish facilities for a track which gets decent racing, lots of bookies, smallish crowd but still difficult to get served at bar until they brought in additional staff, probably more set up for NH racing |
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hello gordon
interesting read not yet been to kilbeggan or laytown but have been national hunt racing at navan i really liked the racecourse great view by the last fence and from the stands. |
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sounds a good all round trip by the way.
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You want to have seen my car after this Scottish mob had finished with it...
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Totally agree about Ascot, i love it there, a lucky course for me albeit tinged with sadness when Frankel won the Champion and seeing HRC looking so ill.
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I've still not finalised my travel arrangements yet , but I was shocked at how expensive car hire is . On another point , I was thinking how poor some courses are at giving the paying customer useful information ( i.e. the going , full results from away meetings etc ). This year I was at Perth when the oncourse bookies suffered a technical problem , and their screens were frozen for the duration . Also the Tote have a habit of showing away races with no commentary , on a small screen . As soon as the race has finished it will switch to something else . My friend tried to get the results on his mobile , but was swamped with bookies spam . At least at Hamilton , they have a whiteboard where the Hamilton results are recorded . I miss the days when you could keep up to speed with anything you required to know , by visiting the Totesport Credit Club . Sometimes they were a haven from the madness outside , to say nothing of the inclement weather .
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Are you still 11/4 Foxy ?
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Well the transport and accommodation are all now sorted . I'm going to Ludlow , Worcester and Chepstow . Is there anything in particular I should be looking out for ? I mean in the way of places to spectate from or places to visit for food/drink . Or indeed places to avoid ?
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two places in worcester well worth a visit are browns which is by the river opposite the premier inn at the cricket ground food very good there,or the other side of town the dragon inn which sell a great choice of drinks from church end brewery i prefer the one called goats milk,if you like indian food there are plenty around the dragon both places i mention are within walking distance of the racecourse,ludlow has a very good reputation for restaurants i find the place over rated however the church inn is fine and sells hereford pale ale from wye valley brewery which is very good,the viewing from the top of the stands at ludlow is as good a view anywhere in racing also at ludlow unlike many now they still allow you to go by the fences and freely walk around the inside of the course.the card at chepstow will be very good i could not say the same for the town,surprised your not doing newton abbot of the friday thats a great little town and a wonderful racecourse.
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Thanks for the pointers Foxy , much appreciated . I do mean to eventually visit all the UK courses , so Newton Abbot will have to wait . It does sound like someplace I'd enjoy visiting though , probably along with other nearby venues .
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As promised , here is a brief summary of my trip ; Flybe flight from Glasgow to Birmingham on October 9th , train to Worcester where I based myself for 4 nights . Wednesday 10th ; drove to Ludlow races in hired car . It was the warmest October day I'd ever witnessed . Found the layout of pre parade and parade ring being in the centre of the course to be unusual . Along with the winner's enclosure and weighing room . I had a good wander around , and the facilities seemed decent enough . A big screen allowed all racegoers to follow the action with ease . I happened to see a steam train pass the track , and a few minutes later , 2 WW 2 era fighter planes flew past in formation . Quite surreal . It was a weird sensation driving over the matting in place to protect the track , even at the slow speed I travelled at . I noticed the proximity of the rail track meant that space was at a premium , so hence the layout . Also the golf course accommodated within seems to pose no logistical problems . A good racing experience in my book , but why so many security people ? There seemed to be too many for the duties required .
I was able to walk to Worcester racecourse . The first thing that I noticed was that the winning post is not adjacent to the grandstand , that must be pretty unusual .I also noted that because the course was hemmed in by the river , it had a very long and narrow parade ring/pre parade ring . As the horses are walked across the course , and enter the pre parade ring at the end furthest away from the stand . The habit of trying to see the runners as they first appear , and get saddled etc , can cause you to be left "landlocked " . That is the security people open a gateway for the runners to leave the parade ring and access the course prior to racing . This causes a bottle neck for punters heading to the betting ring/stand if they're too slow . The gates are only opened again by security after the last horse leaves the parade ring . Once again , a big screen lets everybody see the action . The course looked to be a bit careworn and basic compared to many others . Nevertheless , I enjoyed the experience . It was a fairly sparse crowd , so I think it might be an endurance if the crowd is overly large . Saturday 13th , I drove to Chepstow races . I thought the layout was good , with the parade ring being positioned in front of the stands , and the natural slopes allowing the big crowd to see from almost any point . Add to that the 2 big screens , and you can see why there was a big crowd . I never did seek out the pre parade ring , and found it slightly problematic to gain access to a disabled toilet ( which a steward helpfully rectified ) . This did not take away from an enjoyable experience . As predicted by other forum members , the standard of racing was a notch or two higher than both Ludlow and Worcester . I enjoyed the trip , although I lost on the betting front overall , and that's another 3 racecourses ticked off the list . The weather was kind to me all three days I went to the races , and that's another bonus . My first trip to Wales since 1986 , and not been in Worcester ( city ) since 1990 . My best piece of advice from the trip is this , always check that your sat' nav' system ( unused for 5/6 years ) is in good working order ! Thanks to all forum members who posted tips and suggestions . |