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So far I've pencilled in Cartmel in July and maybe Doncaster earlier the same week . And the Ludlow , Worcester and Chepstow in October . But still undecided on the best way to get there , and then travel between said courses and wherever I'm based ( might have to be more than one base ). If I was to fly in October , to get South , should I fly to Birmingham or Bristol ? And where should I base myself ? I was thinking of hiring a car rather than using rail , but any help/suggestions appreciated . I have been shocked at the cost of rail travel when I've been browsing times and prices . I spotted one ticket from Glasgow to Doncaster for £17.50 , but the train 30 minutes later was over £100 . It all seems like a complex farce . I was able to get return travel last year from Glasgow to London Euston for £60 return .
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For Ludlow, Worcester, Chepstow I've stayed at Holiday Inn express in Shrewsbury and also a decent B&B (was on C4 four in a bed show) at Brynmawr in Wales. But there are several options, car rental (ideally with your airline) is best idea and just have to stay off the drink at the course (which for me is never ideal!). For train prices use this site https://new.trainsplit.com/ - you don't have to join up to get the prices, just note their recommended route and it will show you the savings over direct fares.
If Chepstow first or last meeting, then check out flights to Cardiff, if Ludlow or Worcester then Birmingham probably best, but if you don't mind driving you can do the Midlands from Glasgow M74 in about 5 hours easily |
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start of at ludlow wednesday night worcester which is a great city,thursday friday stay in newton abbot cider bar well worth a visit,than saturday night stay in cardiff another great city.
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I haven't been to Worcester or Cardiff for over 25 years , but look forward to travelling to these areas again . I do not relish doing it all by car , I'm totally spoilt by being used to driving on almost empty roads of Perthshire/Angus . I will report back as plans develop , and about what I think of the tracks I visit .
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Well I thought that I'd bump this thread after reading about Brighton Racecourse ( merits and demerits ) . A very bad thing for racegoers has to be late abandonments . my worst experience was a Saturday meeting at Musselburgh . It started snowing when the horses were in the parade ring . By the time the horses were at the start , it was a full blown blizzard . After a bit of hanging about , and wondering what would happen , the meeting was called off without any action taking place . Just one of the downsides of a winter sport conducted outside . But most frustrating .
Talking about strange quirks at courses ; When I attended Tramore races , I thought to myself " there can't be any other courses where you can't see the runners 1.5 to 2 furlongs from home " . That was until I visited Carlisle races a couple of years ago . I hadn't noticed the nature of the course when watching TV coverage , so you really do get the benefit of visiting courses in person . |
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There is a Cartmel meeting a week on Saturday which I'm thinking of attending , so here are a few questions for you experienced Forum Members ; is it possible to travel by rail from Glasgow to Catrmel races on a day return ? How long does it take after the last race at Cartmel to battle trough the narrow lanes/extra traffic etc to Cark and Cartmel station ? If I travel by car , where is best town to stay in , and is it better to leave the car and arrive at the course by public transport ?
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I would avoid the trains in the lakes at the moment MASSIVE PROBLEMS most routes are covered at the moment by busses. if you happen to win a few quid try sharrow bay at poole bridge hope you have a good time. regards Ronnie. |
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the trip i suggested will be different in 2019 chepstow will now race friday/saturday and newton abbot will race on sunday.
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the traffic at cartmel is nowhere near as bad as legend would make you believe ,its always tricky trying to find somewhere to stay around there but i would strongly recommend you avoid grange.
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By train, it will be probably be quicker getting from Glasgow to Cark than the same journey coming home the same day. Maybe stay Sat night and come home Sunday, (or stay for the Monday meeting too) although it will be difficult to find any accommodation
As Ronnie says, there is disruption on the Lakes rail network but you might be okay travelling towards Cark on the Barrow line Sharow Bay a good shout but it's 40 miles north of Cartmel and likely to be choca at this time of year |
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If you have not been to Newmarket it is a must as the HQ of British Racing. With so many other things to fill in your time like the National Stud, the Horseracing Museum and the morning gallops plus all the people you see when out and about.
Accommodation can be a problem there so we have stayed in Cambridge and taken the bus to Newmarket as when we go to York we stay in a Pub/Motel in Thirsk that is opposite the station |
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Without a car how do any of you get to Chepstow. I tried it once many years ago but when getting off the train there from Cardiff it was a very infrequent bus service to the course. Would have got there far too early and would have needed to miss the last race.
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I see that Boyzone , the band , are playing after racing at Cartmel a week on Saturday . I would imagine that could mean the roads around the course are very busy . Probably worse than usual . I will take this into account when planning my day .
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Boyzone are not at cartmel that date they have already played there two weeks ago |
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Gordon63 Joined: 27 Aug 02
Replies: 2198 13 Jul 18 21:01 train - change at Lancaster for Grange-Over-Sands, courtesy bus to races, check racecourse website for departure times, bus stops about 10 min walk from the course which takes you through town centre and passed (or in!) couple of nice pubs car - three hours each way from Edinburgh, closer from Glasgow, leave sharpish after the last and you'll be back on M6 in less than 45 mins and straight up M74 from there, easy peasy...all roads within couple of miles of course are one way, just hope you don't land behind a dreaded caravan! parking - ample in the course or adjacent overspill fields Cartmel - not everyones taste but I love it |
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Thanks for the various contributions to this thread . I now see that I was wrong to think that Boyzone were playing on Saturday 21st July , they've already had their post race gig .
I will be back on this thread after I've sampled the delights of visiting racecourses that I've yet to attend . |
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Well , I did promise to report back . I went to Cartmel races on Saturday 21st . I went from Glasgow central by rail to Lancaster , and got the service to Cark . I returned by same services , later the same day . I found Cartmel village to be pretty and quaint . I didn't realise that it was a " foodie/artisan " type of place . I looked around the village shop , but it wasn't the sort of place you could buy a packet of Quavers and a chomp . The racecourse was very busy , with innumerable picnic tables and chairs gathered around BBQ's . The policy of being permitted to take in your own supplies of food and drink ( alcohol included ) , and the good weather meant that there was a bumper crowd . Which was scattered all around every enclosure and beyond . I found the course layout wasn't the best for viewing the action . The grandstand faces the home straight/winning post , but also has a fair bit of the track behind it . I would have preferred to experience Cartmel on a quieter race day , but I did move about and explored different places/vantage points . I'm pleased to have visited the track and witnessed it in the flesh . TV coverage is no substitute for experiencing the true nature of a racecourse . I lost on the betting front , but survived to punt again .
I enjoyed the views of Morecambe Bay ( largest intertidal sand/mud flats in UK ) , and the superb potted brown Shrimps I ate at the races . I will also remember a drunken fool hitching a ride on the back of Jimmy Moffat's horsebox , with the trainer himself at the wheel , oblivious to the prankster . Thanks again to all forum members who were generous with their knowledge and tips . |
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Cheltenham festival for the first 2 days. Hardly groundbreaking to say so, but there really is nowhere else like it. After those 2 days for me the atmosphere changes and it's not my cup of tea.
My favourite other meet is the York Dante, especially if you get lucky with the weather. Good racing at a stunning course and a proper crowd before the hordes of orange types descend later on in the season. Don't bother going to any York crowd above about 30,000 unless you enjoy never being able to get a drink or to go for a piss. I always try and get to Kelso in December, lovely track and atmosphere. I've particularly enjoyed all of the following, mostly midweek: Chepstow, Ludlow (bags of character!), Warwick, Fontwell Park, Pontefract, Newton Abbot. Beverley is a good one to go to in the car, can get it right up to the track and have a picnic out of your boot with the horses almost touching distance. Fun little experience even if you don't actually see an awful lot! It wasn't bad, but didn't really see the appeal of Hereford when I went for its re-opening day. Won't be going to Redcar, Market Rasen or Brighton again in any sort of hurry. You'd have to pay me a sizeable sum to ever consider going to Newmarket for the 2000 guineas again. Awful. |
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go to goodwood its so nice there ,
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northofperth - my viewing procedure is to stand by the two fences at the top of the hill past the priory and then walk down through the car park to the finishing straight whilst watching on the big screen, not sure if anyone has the distances between the fences but i can't think of two closer together than these two at cartmel
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Goodwood and Fontwell for me.
Definitely not Bath during a hot summer. |
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best meeting to attend for a lot on betfair is gamblers anoymous
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Northofperth I know what Quavers are,but what's a 'chomp' ?
You could have got yourself a nice walking stick at the village shop but expect from where you come from you've already got one. |
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A Chomp is a small caramel chocolate bar, Cadburys I think
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ANY Group ONE Course ..why they have the Best Prize and Attract The Best Horses
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Thank you intheknow...you are well named sir
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Ascot on a quiet friday in the summer or for jumps is by far the best. If you can get there plumpton is a great way to spend a monday afternoon during the winter too. Newbury in the summer is a nightmare, too many lager louts
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southwell,, if you like the beach,,,mind take your pail and spade
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I should also mention that there was a bus service from Cark rail station direct to Cartmel village . It was a short walk through the village to the racecourse . A flat rate of £3.50 for single or return was charged . It certainly helps the racegoer if there is an integrated public transport option . I remember when the racing press used to mention that Kelso's nearest rail connection was Berwick Upon Tweed . It's a taxi journey of 24.5 miles , a bit too long and expensive I'd say . Nowadays Kelso provide a bus link to the new( ish ) Edinburgh to Tweedbank railway line . It's always great to have really convenient transport links ; e.g. the station at Kempton Park .
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Not forgetting that to get from ascot to sandown today you have to get a bus replacement service, which is only in operation for this morning! superb planning there network rail
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The meetings where all the favs win.
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workrider (how is the visit going?) and foxy - just booked another Irish trip so in addition to Laytown/Kilbeggan/Navan in early September, now aiming for Gowran/Tipperary 2 day meeting/Galway/Cork/Thurles in early October, the premise being that one of the Tipperary is a Hamilton reciprocal day and can visit 5 courses for the first time in the same trip (and catching up on Sgt Howie's Irish total!) - accommodation booked in a centralish location but any other local or course advice welcome.
I remember that Cork was called Mallow and Tipperary known as Limerick Junction and based on their geography the older names seem more appropriate, any idea why they changed? over here Edinburgh became Musselburgh but that is the actual location so makes sense |
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Cartmel , one of the 7 wonders of the equestrian field
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zipper • July 25, 2018 10:48 AM BST
ANY Group ONE Course ..why they have the Best Prize and Attract The Best Horses .......... and every p1sshead within a 100 mile radius ! |
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Hello Gordon
Sounds a great trip when at Gowran try a pay a visit to Kilkenny it’s a great town ,not over keen on cork racecourse,thurles will in some ways remind you of kelso I will be amazed if you don’t fall in love with the place. |
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Thought that I'd bump this thread to ask for some more advice from the experienced racegoers on here . I've nothing concrete planned as yet ( just over a month to go ) , but I'm thinking of flying to Birmingham either Tuesday or Wednesday and hiring a car to let me travel around . Aiming to attend Ludlow on the Wed' , Worcester next day . Then I will probably miss Newton Abbot for a day of sightseeing in Bristol or Cardiff on the Friday . Unsure of the longish drive South to N.A. , and might have a drink at Worcester too . Saturday would see me at Chepstow . Fly North on Sunday from Cardiff or Bristol . Any suggestions for things to do/see at races mentioned or elsewhere ? Thanks in advance .
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the drive to newton abbot whilst is quite long it is very straightforward its a smashing racecourse and is well worth the effort ,chepstow is on both saturday and sunday and for me is when we start to see the better quality national hunt racing,
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The distance from Worcester to Newton Abbot is 149.7 miles according to the AA route planner website . Estimated duration 2 hours 29 minutes . I'll probably wait for my chance to visit Newton Abbot , and try to fit it in with other race meetings in the area too .
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Newton abbot has a proper cider bar as far as I know only 2 left in the country .and a very good Indian called eastern eye.
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