KENTUCKY DERBY - OFFICIAL THREAD

just to add daq have loaded the full card, just no money there right now

Will be backing Audible ew.

Just prefer his experience, class and tactical speed over the unproven potential of Justify and Mendelssohn.

He’s just a tougher horse than those two and quited like his manoeuvrability and tactical speed in both his Gulfstream wins.

Put it this way...while the other two could be superstars I just feel that right now today Audible will be able answer all the questions and challenges a Kentucky Derby can through up.

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Menelssohn for me, broke course record at Meydan where there has been countless top horses putting their best efforts in. Ryan has 2 lengths on any jockey if he wants to really win and who doesn't want to land the Kentucky. Typical of O'brien wanting the big double on the day, he's just won the 2000 Guineas.

Ryan isn't two lengths better than US jockeys on dirt.
Ffs.

A lot of possible winners but I think Audible has as good a chance as anything. And I'd rather have Castellano than Moore in that race.

Saw that My Boy Jack’s prices crashed Stateside..now 5-1 from 30-1.

UK bookies haven’t picked up on this yet.

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Had a small bet on Solomini as well...looks the spitting image of his old man. Plan all along was to drop him out and make 1 run so stall 17 isn’t bad. More than happy to have Flavien Prat on board. Top class jockey.

MUDDY Track

They will seal it if it gets worse. Then it becomes very quick.

i saw that as well elg, has been some write ups for it as well

flameaway and enticed another couple that should handle conditions

Mendelssohn is a 6/1 poke on their tote. Who takes bets on their tote?

i'll give you that on daq if you stick it up

who allowed you to call this an OFFICIAL THREAD  ?

Menelssohn for me, broke course record at Meydan where there has been countless top horses putting their best efforts in. Ryan has 2 lengths on any jockey if he wants to really win

The tapeta track at Meydan was replaced by dirt about 3 years ago, so breaking the track record there isn't significant. It's impacted by weather and humidity, and also how often it's harrowed and levelled. Favours 'speed' runners and the day Mendelssohn won, the track was riding very fast, in fact, of the 8 races, 6 were won in better than standard times.

RM stole it from the front that day, and although it looked visually impressive (and it was) he was gifted the race, that was not a particularly strong field. It will not be a case of deja vu this evening (it will probably hose up now i've stated that )

As for RM being 2 lengths better than any other jockey, that's nonsense, great though he is.

tried to add some dough to daq, but paypal asked for a card to be registered from the same country ???, so  did not bother with that. debit card was then not accepted. Used it earlier & several pounds in my account, so will not be using that site in a hurry. Was not looking forward to the id rigmarole, having suffered that with the sun mob earlier. Funny how it's no questions asked with depositing! Thanks anyway elise!

np  stow,

I had similar problems with them 10 years ago. haven't used them since and won't.

365 have pools, but the kd market shows the whole field at 1-2, which I think makes for an overound of 1333%, which seems a little high

ss, it's not always the fault of the firm. I bank with Lloyds and they are ultra careful with security.

LOL

LOL to 19.11 post

mendelssohn is pretty much the only horse they have wanted to back on daq so far

It will be a special achievement if OBrien and Moore wins the big one - O Brien is the worlds best Trainer ...but this would be  really special if he could pull it off and be possibly one of his most biggest achievements out of all the races he has won.

Im going to chuck a few quid ew on Somomini 33/1 & Enticed 40/1

What times this race at..Why no market on betfair

elise 05 May 18 18:43 Joined: 04 Jan 03 | Topic/replies: 23,547 | Blogger: elise's blog
i'll give you that on daq if you stick it up

Smarkets is the place to be if you want to lay Mendelssohn - you can currently lay Mendelssohn for £1,592 at 6.0,
and there is £315 available to back at 5.90

For comparison, on daq you can lay £109 at 6.2 and back for £63 at 5.8

Daq has £10,224 matched in total on the race, Smarkets has £57,110 traded in total.

ty mice, i am aware and i only offered that to stow because he's been around along time, i was laying at mid 5s earlier

Horrible conditions to run your top race in. Bookmakers must be rubbing their hands as race now akin to a lottery.

Terrible start for Moore. Never sighted on his first mount (on turf) and will probably need a search party for Seahenge as the horse looks increasingly like a rogue with each run.

the tractors are out, still raining tho

Someone help me out here please ?   ...   Can't find the race on the Sportsbook or Exchange to have a bet on it !

not on betfair bogley, they not paid for churchill downs or some gibberish

Mendelssohn is 7/1 over there -as low as 9/4 over here

Lot of newbies on here tonight - BETFAIR HAVE NEVER COVERED THE BIG RACES IN AMERICA SINCE FOREVER.
Where you guys been for 10 years.

Where can we watch the derby for free?

The last time i seen conditions like that George Washington was standing on 3 legs up to his hocks in muck.

Horrible and dreadful to watch racing like that.

Where can we watch the derby for free?

step ladder, central ave, louisville, kentucky

ATR

Thanks mike.

For anybody without ATR or kodi I believe there is free coverage on https://www.vipleague.lc/sports/horse-racing.html#collapse571218

Big Race, Big Occasion, Big Watch, but personally I couldn`t get seriously involved betting as when it comes to USA racing



but I`ve had a cheeky score on the unbeaten Magnum Moon despite it`s terrible draw.

No duck in the name,so forget about that one

This is going to be fun.
Much as I am a tradiotionalist I do think 20 is too many round any US course.

themightymac    05 May 18 22:59 
Big Race, Big Occasion, Big Watch, but personally I couldn`t get seriously involved betting as when it comes to USA racing






Despite all that you have the cheek to start a thread and call it "The Official Kentucky Derby Thread"

That's a bit grumpy sparrow   

Me grumpy salmon

feck off you old tosse*s

If Ryan can get this one home,most prob will go down as is best ride ever

Go back to trolling on football kenny 

A rather aggressive young man appears.

Over 60 imo.

Fancy Audible, all depends if it takes to the slop though! Good luck one and all.

If I had to back I would go for Audible,but it's a difficult race to ride at the best of times and if there is a rails bias it may well depend on which of about 7 or 8 horses gets out best.

A pity we can't have an interest on here and I'm not opening an account elsewhere just for the odd race. I would have had a place bet on Bolt D'Oro.

What a f)*&ing pantomime this is.

"Oh no it isn't"

The race or the thread ?

Godolphins Enticed thrown into this "cauldron" on its debut? 1pt win 3 pts place

the bloody race lol

My boy Jack e/w

All on purple if anyone interested

Bolt d'oro 4.6 to place

i like the look of yours S

SS

6.0 to place lay

Lol

justify 2.04.2

Justified support for the favourite

what a horrid race for mend/moore

1-2 for Winstar?

Perfect ride by the old man.
Jose didn't do much wrong in 2nd.Didn't see any evidence of Moore's 2L advantage     

Won easy

Got excited when Audible made his move but winner was long gone

Where did Moore finish?  I never noticed his horse at all.

Just glad I’m not sitting here wondering why I backed a European horse in the KD.

another one for Jesus, why's this interloper Baffert claiming all the credit?

good magic & audible both went ok, not sure how good a race that was, time's not that fast

last, eased right down

"My  Lord and saviour" -  had sod all to do with it.

Like the equally detestatable Drama Queens at the Oscars - and all that type of tosh.

Mendelssohn never going well,beaten at halfway and eased. Non-event really.

Why did connections of Mendelssohn bother? Moore was hopeless (again)!

Winner unbeaten so it might be interesting to see how far he can go.

Mendelssohn was badly baulked in the first furlong and was always fighting a losing battle after that !

sparrow    05 May 18 23:58 
Where did Moore finish?  I never noticed his horse at all.

Last I think. Rough race for Ryans mount for sure.

May 6, 2018 -- 12:00AM, onlooker wrote:

"My  Lord and saviour" -  had sod all to do with it.Like the equally detestatable Drama Queens at the Oscars - and all that type of tosh.

Blimey, let the man have his moment. Maybe it works for him hey?

Now there is another one at it.   

Sparrow, I don't follow American racing on a daily basis and therefore know nothing about current form and horses, but I do know more about the history of this great race and all other major sporting events than most on here.

Someone had to start a thread, nowt cheeky about that.

I've been to the Kentucky Derby and See the horse in the photo next to my name, I saw it winning the triple crown, and not many can say that. Greatest horse ever, ok.

where did good magic come ?

^ One of the Owners - Not you Wesdag.

Well done winners.

David Fishwick Minibus Sales   

another one for Jesus, why's this interloper Baffert claiming all the credit?
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they are all god people because they are all redneck Trump supporters (nap)

A bit ott but hey, if it makes them content and happy, it's no big deal.

impossible123    06 May 18 00:01 
Why did connections of Mendelssohn bother? Moore was hopeless (again)!

I'm sure months of planning didn't include tonights "conditions".

Role on Pimlico in a fortnight. Will be interesting to see how he does there. With the races coming up so quickly, it takes a real Champion to win the Triple Crown.

Poor old Ryan must have been praying to a higher authority than jesus as he was taking a hiding from either side in the early push for places......someone calling him "hopeless"??

Where will they go with M now?

That was a BEAST of a performance from the winner.

It sure was.

I do not understand why Moore seems to allow himself to get his mount into a non-winning and awkward position (regularly) in America at the off eg Seventh Heaven, Happily and yesterday Mendelssohn just to name 3 I I can remember. He needs to be more alert and better prepared at the gate eg plan and anticipate better.

It looks like the only way that Mendleson could 'run a race' - let alone win - was by leading, as at Meydan.

Not saying it could have with such tactics - and immaterial to me, as I will not bet on American racing.

However - from that DRAW it obviously had NO chance of doing the above.

Furthermore  - Mendleson was completely knocked sideways, TWICE inside the first furlong - in a real rough-house of a start - and then running on that sloppy sh!te surface was a complete 'no'no' for the horse.

Moore is too used to the British way of dawdling out of the gate. You can do that on turf in the US but not in a good-class field on dirt unless you're on a world-beater and Mendelssohn isn't Secretariat.

It was very difficult last night but I would say the above is a reasonable summary. He isn't very often on the front end over here so he doesn't get that much practice at forcing the pace. 

Early days but given his mounts he hasn't made the greatest of starts to the season. Was it just a handicap winner at the Craven meeting?

another fav walk over.