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themightymac
04 May 18 23:27
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First Saturday in May means one thing to racing fans worldwide - it's KENTUCKY DERBY DAY. Can Mendelssohn make history and land the Run For The Roses?

I hope Aidan is successful in this brave attempt to land arguably the toughest thoroughbred race in the world and go one better than the ever popular Clive Brittain.

As Irvin S Cobb famously said, "Until you go to Kentucky and see the Derby with your own eyes, you ain't never been nowhere and ain't never seen nothing"!

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By:
acey deucy
When: 04 May 18 23:55
Listen....And Listen Good...Mendelson excuse the spelling, wont be in the first two...Not saying he wont run a brave race but he cant Win This...He Will Be Broken.Cool
By:
themightymac
When: 05 May 18 01:33
It's a hard task indeed. Hope you are wrong though.
By:
woodmanchester
When: 05 May 18 08:12
Backed him anyway. Looked exceptional recently
By:
Mat22
When: 05 May 18 08:54
Mendelssohn From Gate 14 with plenty of pace up front already wont have it as easy as in Dubai.
Justify better draw n Bob Baffert sounded pretty excited about this unbeaten colt on American T.V.
They reckon one of the best fields in many a year with plenty of good horses in it and a very open Derrrrby
My money on Magic Mike to shine on the big stage.
By:
Andrew in Sweden
When: 05 May 18 08:54
If there was a market on here i would be laying Mendelssohn. Half decent i agree, but a very tall order to win over there, and is under priced in my opinion.
By:
themightymac
When: 05 May 18 12:34
Agree Andrew. It will take an exceptional horse to win from that draw. I couldn`t bet it at such a low price but I hope he wins and I`ll shout it home. Be interesting to see what price it starts on the Pari Mutuel. Mind you, UK bookies will have their runners at Churchill Downs to manipulate the price. I wouldn`t think for one minute that the Yanks would be interested in betting it.
By:
elise
When: 05 May 18 12:50
bolt d'oro & justify obvious but likely to be overbet

audible & good magic should run well, best rag may be vino rossi, not sure as yet but maybe go good magic at decent odds
By:
elise
When: 05 May 18 12:54
just to add daq have loaded the full card, just no money there right now
By:
EastLower Gooner
When: 05 May 18 15:06
Will be backing Audible ew.

Just prefer his experience, class and tactical speed over the unproven potential of Justify and Mendelssohn.

He’s just a tougher horse than those two and quited like his manoeuvrability and tactical speed in both his Gulfstream wins.

Put it this way...while the other two could be superstars I just feel that right now today Audible will be able answer all the questions and challenges a Kentucky Derby can through up.

By:
WindsorWizard
When: 05 May 18 15:41
Menelssohn for me, broke course record at Meydan where there has been countless top horses putting their best efforts in. Ryan has 2 lengths on any jockey if he wants to really win and who doesn't want to land the Kentucky. Typical of O'brien wanting the big double on the day, he's just won the 2000 Guineas.
By:
salmon spray
When: 05 May 18 15:51
Ryan isn't two lengths better than US jockeys on dirt.
Ffs.
By:
salmon spray
When: 05 May 18 15:57
A lot of possible winners but I think Audible has as good a chance as anything. And I'd rather have Castellano than Moore in that race.
By:
EastLower Gooner
When: 05 May 18 17:59
Saw that My Boy Jack’s prices crashed Stateside..now 5-1 from 30-1.

UK bookies haven’t picked up on this yet.

...

Had a small bet on Solomini as well...looks the spitting image of his old man. Plan all along was to drop him out and make 1 run so stall 17 isn’t bad. More than happy to have Flavien Prat on board. Top class jockey.
By:
onlooker
When: 05 May 18 18:18
MUDDY Track
By:
salmon spray
When: 05 May 18 18:19
They will seal it if it gets worse. Then it becomes very quick.
By:
elise
When: 05 May 18 18:31
i saw that as well elg, has been some write ups for it as well
By:
elise
When: 05 May 18 18:35
flameaway and enticed another couple that should handle conditions
By:
Stow_judge
When: 05 May 18 18:40
Mendelssohn is a 6/1 poke on their tote. Who takes bets on their tote?
By:
elise
When: 05 May 18 18:43
i'll give you that on daq if you stick it up
By:
michael59
When: 05 May 18 18:47
who allowed you to call this an OFFICIAL THREAD  ?
By:
Andrew in Sweden
When: 05 May 18 18:55
Menelssohn for me, broke course record at Meydan where there has been countless top horses putting their best efforts in. Ryan has 2 lengths on any jockey if he wants to really win

The tapeta track at Meydan was replaced by dirt about 3 years ago, so breaking the track record there isn't significant. It's impacted by weather and humidity, and also how often it's harrowed and levelled. Favours 'speed' runners and the day Mendelssohn won, the track was riding very fast, in fact, of the 8 races, 6 were won in better than standard times.

RM stole it from the front that day, and although it looked visually impressive (and it was) he was gifted the race, that was not a particularly strong field. It will not be a case of deja vu this evening (it will probably hose up now i've stated that Wink)

As for RM being 2 lengths better than any other jockey, that's nonsense, great though he is.
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Stow_judge
When: 05 May 18 18:58
tried to add some dough to daq, but paypal asked for a card to be registered from the same country ???, so  did not bother with that. debit card was then not accepted. Used it earlier & several pounds in my account, so will not be using that site in a hurry. Was not looking forward to the id rigmarole, having suffered that with the sun mob earlier. Funny how it's no questions asked with depositing! Thanks anyway elise!
By:
elise
When: 05 May 18 18:59
np  stow,
By:
salmon spray
When: 05 May 18 18:59
I had similar problems with them 10 years ago. haven't used them since and won't.
By:
Stow_judge
When: 05 May 18 19:11
365 have pools, but the kd market shows the whole field at 1-2, which I think makes for an overound of 1333%, which seems a little high Silly
By:
Stow_judge
When: 05 May 18 19:13
ss, it's not always the fault of the firm. I bank with Lloyds and they are ultra careful with security.
By:
Andrew in Sweden
When: 05 May 18 19:13
LOL
By:
Andrew in Sweden
When: 05 May 18 19:13
LOL to 19.11 post
By:
elise
When: 05 May 18 19:23
mendelssohn is pretty much the only horse they have wanted to back on daq so far
By:
RozelKid
When: 05 May 18 19:53
It will be a special achievement if OBrien and Moore wins the big one - O Brien is the worlds best Trainer ...but this would be  really special if he could pull it off and be possibly one of his most biggest achievements out of all the races he has won.

Im going to chuck a few quid ew on Somomini 33/1 & Enticed 40/1
By:
Biffo2010
When: 05 May 18 20:09
What times this race at..Why no market on betfair
By:
mice_elf_and_eye
When: 05 May 18 20:10
elise 05 May 18 18:43 Joined: 04 Jan 03 | Topic/replies: 23,547 | Blogger: elise's blog
i'll give you that on daq if you stick it up


Smarkets is the place to be if you want to lay Mendelssohn - you can currently lay Mendelssohn for £1,592 at 6.0,
and there is £315 available to back at 5.90

For comparison, on daq you can lay £109 at 6.2 and back for £63 at 5.8

Daq has £10,224 matched in total on the race, Smarkets has £57,110 traded in total.
By:
elise
When: 05 May 18 20:15
ty mice, i am aware and i only offered that to stow because he's been around along time, i was laying at mid 5s earlier
By:
differentdrum
When: 05 May 18 21:22
Horrible conditions to run your top race in. Bookmakers must be rubbing their hands as race now akin to a lottery.

Terrible start for Moore. Never sighted on his first mount (on turf) and will probably need a search party for Seahenge as the horse looks increasingly like a rogue with each run.
By:
elise
When: 05 May 18 21:44
the tractors are out, still raining tho
By:
Bogley1.
When: 05 May 18 21:46
Someone help me out here please ?   ...   Can't find the race on the Sportsbook or Exchange to have a bet on it !
By:
the orginal hushwing
When: 05 May 18 21:51
not on betfair bogley, they not paid for churchill downs or some gibberish
By:
RozelKid
When: 05 May 18 21:52
Mendelssohn is 7/1 over there -as low as 9/4 over here
By:
RothmanMike
When: 05 May 18 22:00
Lot of newbies on here tonight - BETFAIR HAVE NEVER COVERED THE BIG RACES IN AMERICA SINCE FOREVER.
Where you guys been for 10 years.
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