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IRISH STEWARDS REPORT INTO 6.40
IRISH STEWARDS REPORT INTO 6.40
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I was a trained driver, Stu - although I was left wondering afterwards. I dislike much of what goes on in racing where it is bent and will lay into it where I see that but I genuinely don't believe it to be the case here. The guy had a brain fart for whatever reason.
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More fun to say the ride was bent imo.
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"interrogated" Posy? What are we talking here? A spot of water-boarding? Make them watch a whole afternoon of Luke Harvey?........Too harsh! Your suggestion would've seemed to be the logical follow-up.
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Going the side of the fence he did think it's far more likely the shout came from behind on horseback from a voice he recognised.
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I might hold some right wing views however even I wouldn't inflict an afternoon watching Luke Harvey on anyone. A spot of water boarding to get to the truth would be quite acceptable however Luke Harvey would be a breach of human rights.
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It would be fine to say move on, if the incident was something avoided in future - no way of knowing that with weak explanations and enquiries. That's why there is a very valid reason to keep on the issue.
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Essentially bob, the next time a jock does this, will it be ok to say he 'heard something'?
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I was using the "Royal we" there, Stu, although I will say that I suspect we'll be having exactly the same conversation in a year's time, whether you choose to 'keep on the issue' or not.
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A simple solution would be some form of statement from an official source, to clarify this in future cases - i.e. 'hearing someone yell from the trackside will not be considered an excuse for creating carnage and pulling up your horse'...simples?
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Heard roaring coming from irelands premier N.H festival crowd approaching the last.
Not sure what he was expecting or why he would be spooked that for someone of his experience in that type of race. Converting a roaring from the left into it means dont jump the last takes some fathoming but the brain takes you to some bizzare places and decisions in the heat of battle when the adrenalins pumping. |
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Seems like you don't believe his explanation stu. So, what do you think really happened, and what was Townend's motivation for not winning?
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While I'm on, my cousin in Puncestown has lost his lion. Give us a shout if you see (or hear) it.
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Mikael, to be honest I'm as sure as everyone else - no one seems clear, even the stewards. But, that doesn't mean we should just 'move on' with such a ridiculous explanation as 'heard a yell' either, and accept that as though it's nothing unusual. Seems to be what the enquiry/others are suggesting with a 'sweep it all under the carpet now...'
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Converting a roaring from the left into it means dont jump the last takes some fathoming
Exactly the point - to win a top class race with one jump too. |
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If he was trying NOT to win the race he made a pretty poor job of it leaving himself in front with one to jump
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So there was someone on the grassy knoll away to the left who was shooting?
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* shouting
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look at the video - you will see fence man pointing at the carnage (ie look at that), he then turns and points at hat man (you caused that mate) ... there's a heated interaction for about 7 seconds and fence man walks away ...
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townend should have ignored him, but whatever he shouted sowed the seeds of doubt in his mind, also made him look round (one second after on video) and when he did the seeds turned into huge trees and he panicked when he saw the others on the opposite side of the track.
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Ok thanks Hulk - there's more to this than we know at the moment!!
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Interesting to see the Elliott group on the inside of the last fence. Nobody at the gap on the outside today....
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@hulk23 -- townend should have ignored him, but whatever he shouted sowed the seeds of doubt in his mind, also made him look round (one second after on video) and when he did the seeds turned into huge trees and he panicked when he saw the others on the opposite side of the track.
That sounds about right. It may be that Townend was not concentrating and had entered a trance-like state (and we're getting dangerously close to Mick Fitz's motorway analogy here) and was "woken up" by the shout because if he had been fully aware, it would have been obvious that there could be nothing wrong with the fence: it was not dolled off; there were no arrows; he was in front so nothing could have fallen within the past few seconds. |
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Even if the Stewards can't be bothered to interview the two characters in question surely at least one of the racing hacks would have spoken to them by now. Egan gives the impression that he can't be bothered with a proper enquiry and just wants to move on.
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As he received a 21 day ban just for dangerous riding, does that mean he would have received no punishment at all if he had not interfered with any other horse and had just gone around the fence?
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Good comments from Alan Sweetman in the RP today, the local stewards should have referred it the Racing Authority for a full investigation.
Hard to argue with that given the seriousness of the incident with horses and jockeys put at risk, connections and punters left out of pocket, viewers watching one of the showcase meetings of Irish racing left wondering wtf? An investigation to establish who exactly was doing the alleged shouting. Did the other jockeys hear the same thing? Did the local stewards think to ask them? An investigation to establish why the public were treated like mushrooms and kept in the dark for hours, and what measures can be taken in future to ensure the public that fund the sport are not treated like f*cking idiots. |