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By:
salmon spray
When: 25 Apr 18 10:45
Has he actually said that to anybody but the stewards ? If he said it to them why wasn't it in THEIR statement ?
By:
gerard
When: 25 Apr 18 10:48
It is in the latest statement.
By:
adamski
When: 25 Apr 18 10:48
If, as has been suggested Townend heard a shout to miss the fence surely the stewards and Townend would want to investigate this. Could it have been a jockey behind him who Townend doesn't want to get in trouble? Think a jockey missed a fence out here a few years ago due to another jockey shouting to him to go round it. Maybe a "professional foul" in horse racing if it comes off.
By:
elise
When: 25 Apr 18 10:50
the closest comment is from robbie power who posted on twitter about human error
By:
MJK
When: 25 Apr 18 10:51
If it is the case that he recognized the voice I'm sure he'll get his 'revenge' at some stage on the track. The working theory last night was that it was a spectator at the hedge, who is connected to another stable. Pure conjecture at this stage of course.
By:
elise
When: 25 Apr 18 10:51
as in pt making an error, he did not say that he got a call to bypass the fence
By:
hulk23
When: 25 Apr 18 10:57
so all i need to do is lay whatever jumps the second last in front and then get my mate who's down at the last to shout at the jockey to go round it .... ?
By:
stu
When: 25 Apr 18 10:58
Surely no professional jock at this level is supposed to go round a fence (especially the last one) based on a 'shout' in any case! ConfusedCrazy
By:
cloone river
When: 25 Apr 18 11:07
Further to the enquiry into an incident approaching the last fence involving Al Boum Photo (FR), ridden by Paul Townend and Finian’s Oscar, ridden by R.M. Power, the following is a summary of the evidence given by both riders.  The summary will be appended to the enquiry report.

In his evidence, R.M. Power outlined what occurred. He said that he was coming to win his race before the last and was carried out. He described the incident as unfortunate and said he had no idea why it happened. He said he was not aware of any reason which would indicate that the fence was being bypassed.

In his evidence, Paul Townend said that he was riding with his head down between the last two fences and heard roaring on his left which caught his attention. He thought he had to bypass the fence but didn’t know which side to bypass on. He panicked and commenced his move to bypass the fence on the right side but then realised there was nothing on the fence to indicate a bypass was needed and tried to correct his actions but it was too late. He accepted in hindsight that there were no bypass procedures in place. He said he made a genuine mistake and apologised for what occurred.
By:
elise
When: 25 Apr 18 11:07
Paul Townend says confusion over whether he needed to bypass the last fence is what caused the collision that took out both Al Boum Photo and Finian's Oscar in a frantic finale to the Growise Champion Novice Steeplechase at Punchestown yesterday.
By:
elise
When: 25 Apr 18 11:08
The statement says: 'In his evidence, Paul Townend said that he was riding with his head down between the last two fences and head roaring on his left which caught his attention.
"He thought he had to bypass the fence but didn't know which side to bypass on. He panicked and commenced his move to bypass the fence on the right side but then realised there was nothing on the fence to indicate a bypass was needed and tried to correct his actions but it was too late.
"He accepted in hindsight that there were no bypass procedures in place. He said he made a genuine mistake and apologised for what occurred."
Townend has also apologised to fans in a statement released to the Racing Post.
"I thought I head a shout and that the last fence was being bypassed. It was a split-second reaction. I wish to apologise to connections and punters. I'd like to leave this
By:
elise
When: 25 Apr 18 11:08
behind me and move on with today's rides."
By:
MJK
When: 25 Apr 18 11:18
Hearing the shouting on his left indicates then that it was the spectator(s) standing at the hedge it seems.
By:
Ramruma
When: 25 Apr 18 11:23
Townend said it was a split-second reaction but what was a split-second reaction? He slowed and had a good look round. Was that before the shout or in response to it?

Did any other jockey *or spectator* hear a shout? Was one picked up on the RTE microphones?
By:
salmon spray
When: 25 Apr 18 11:25
It's all very weird. I honestly can't see it as being bnt but you have to wonder if Townend is really up to the job. It all sounds both confused and bizarre.
By:
elise
When: 25 Apr 18 11:28
no one seems to have said anything ram, robbie power made comments above that pointed to jockey error rather than a third party
By:
hulk23
When: 25 Apr 18 11:34
heard 'roaring' from his left. 

so the only thing on his left was one guy with a bobble hat next to the hedge (who later came onto the track to try and collect the riderless Monalee) and another guy standing next to him on the fence.  after hat man comes back fence guy can be seen pointing at Townend and they appear to be having a heated debate about something - bit of finger pointing from fence man to hat man before fence man walks away ....
By:
MJK
When: 25 Apr 18 11:36

Apr 25, 2018 -- 11:23AM, Ramruma wrote:


Townend said it was a split-second reaction but what was a split-second reaction? He slowed and had a good look round. Was that before the shout or in response to it? Did any other jockey *or spectator* hear a shout? Was one picked up on the RTE microphones?


If he'd looked round and saw the others to his left instead of right he in all probability would have kept riding. Seeing them on his right confirmed what he thought was the fence being bypassed.

By:
MJK
When: 25 Apr 18 11:37

Apr 25, 2018 -- 11:34AM, hulk23 wrote:


heard 'roaring' from his left.  so the only thing on his left was one guy with a bobble hat next to the hedge (who later came onto the track to try and collect the riderless Monalee) and another guy standing next to him on the fence.  after hat man comes back fence guy can be seen pointing at Townend and they appear to be having a heated debate about something - bit of finger pointing from fence man to hat man before fence man walks away ....


Pretty sure one of the fellas at the hedge was from a certain other stable

By:
MJK
When: 25 Apr 18 11:39
Btw think Robbie is being a bit extreme with his 'coming to win the race' comment!
By:
hulk23
When: 25 Apr 18 11:41
that's automatic speak in a stewards ...
By:
hulk23
When: 25 Apr 18 11:49
link to video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGJqcJJ38hI

watch at 6:36, Townend is normal.  At this point hat man leans forward as if he is trying to propel his voice. 
at 6:37 Townend looks round, based presumably on what he has just heard from hat man.

now go back to 4:29 - 4:39 and watch fence man's reaction when hat man comes back over.  that looks like an argument between the 2 of them.  presumably based on what fence man had heard.
By:
stu
When: 25 Apr 18 12:06
I'd repeat what I said earlier, it doesn't matter if he thought he heard a 'shout', I'm pretty sure that's not the specified method of telling jocks to go round a jump!
By:
cloone river
When: 25 Apr 18 12:06
Thats were the shouting probably came from hulk.
By:
cloone river
When: 25 Apr 18 12:08
Willy will have ear plugs in Paul today so he wont hear any shouting.
By:
hulk23
When: 25 Apr 18 12:11
i'd be wanting to speak to hat man and, especially, fence man.  particularly if hat man has connections to a yard, which he may well do as i can't see a member of the public jumping onto the track to try to capture a loose horse.
By:
fronter
When: 25 Apr 18 12:17
Which one are you calling hat man - fence man? Hulk
By:
Virgin
When: 25 Apr 18 12:19
Cheers Hulk Wink

That rear view on the youtube clip @ 6.30 shows he's realised his error and is trying to get back on course (imo)
By:
stu
When: 25 Apr 18 12:23
So can we take it they have now changed the rules for ommitting fences then: 'Jockeys, if you here some geezer yelling at the trackside then please omit the next fence...'Laugh
By:
stu
When: 25 Apr 18 12:23
*hear
By:
Honest Bob
When: 25 Apr 18 12:32
Fair play to the Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board for not letting it drag on any further than it already has and the conspiracy theories to grow ever louder - which they would've done. It's happened, the explanation makes sense and lessons have been learned. We move on.
By:
TheAnorak
When: 25 Apr 18 12:32
Presumably if they were supposed to bypass the last, it would be to the left anyway - i.e the gap between the fence and the stands - otherwise that plastic rail wouldn't be in place where Townened went. And the jockeys are supposed to know which side to go and have studied the map in the weighng room, at least those are the regulations over here.
By:
stu
When: 25 Apr 18 12:33
If I was riding that race in that exact position, not exactly sure how I'd tell difference between a 'GO ON!' and a 'GO ROUND' that's for sure WinkWink
By:
stu
When: 25 Apr 18 12:34
explanation makes sense Laugh
By:
Honest Bob
When: 25 Apr 18 12:35
It was either that or a very bad suicide attempt.
By:
stu
When: 25 Apr 18 12:36
It 'makes sense' he decided to act based on some bloke yelling next to the track Bob??
By:
posy
When: 25 Apr 18 12:40
The two guys standing at the gate are key witnesses and must be easily identifiable and should be interrogated as to what they heard.
By:
Honest Bob
When: 25 Apr 18 12:42
I'm no jockey but I have certainly acted instinctively (and badly with hindsight) at times during my life. Driving is one example, having gone the wrong way and attempting a desperate and dangerous maneouvre to get back on track. In my opinion something definitely panicked him and kicked him into fight or flight mode. I'm not making excuses for him but prolonging the PM certainly won't achieve anything.
By:
stu
When: 25 Apr 18 12:45
That would be a valid excuse for someone completely untrained as a jockey bob - not the case here.
By:
sofiakenny
When: 25 Apr 18 12:45
I agree with posy.
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