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Very informative
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This is dodgy
P t is as dodgy as feck always has been This is dodgy |
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Scandalous that nobody sees fit to report what the "evidence" was.
The only logical explanation that I can see is the lone wing in the middle of the hurdles track. If Townend saw that out of the corner of his eye, he might have thought that was the route to the winning post. No excuse, because he's ridden the course on countless occasions, but a possible explanation. Human error no doubt (hopefully!), but to offer no explanation is poor in the extreme. |
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He has ridden 344 times around Punchestown maybe 50% of them chases?
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I initially thought similar re that hurdle wing and part of the last fence sticking outside the left part of last fence rail(on head on) but not sure that really explains the look around.
Very poor no further explanation has come to light so long after the race, seems the stewards have placed the blame squarely on PT though. |
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In fact he has ridden at Punchestown more than any other course. He must know the course like the back of his hand. What could possibly make him think he had to swerve the fence?
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If you watch the replay he appears to take a pull on his mount as he's going so well then looks over his right shoulder and sees the other jockeys appear to be heading to by pass the last and makes a split second decision to go that way as well.
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why on god's green earth would he throw the race away because he didn't want the english horse to win, but instead let his direct rival win the race.
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i typed a lot there and i'm not writing it all out again but basically
he looks right, the horse thinks he wants to go right, he changes his body entirely, then townend rides it cause he has to but the horse already has too much momentum and crashes into the other horse and the rails any talk of a fix or it being bént or **** is just stupid |
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Look at when he first stood up, where would he have got a call from?
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Would he even hear any 'call', given the levels of noise from the crowd going down to the last?
I've had a good look back at it and imo he sees something ahead, thenchecks to his right that it's safe to take his mount off the track (it wasn't as it turned out), but what does he see? And if that was the case, why haven't they just come out and said so? I'm filing this in the too difficult tray ![]() |
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Apparently he did get a call to bypass the first, yep, above all that shouting and cheering from the crowd, and he took action despite no formal procedures being in place.
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2018/apr/24/paul-townend-banned -dangerous-riding-dramatic-punchestown-horse-racing -finish-willie-mullins |
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first = fence
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the big question is why did he look behind him? what reason would he have to look round ,like it was a big race and he is about to jump so he says to himself,i will have a look round "
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Would he even hear any 'call', given the levels of noise from the crowd going down to the last?
What noise would that be? Its Ireland, the crowd would drunk & unconscience in the parade ring |
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unconscious
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made a beeline for the tizzard horse when if he simply jumped the last would have probably won..he is on the right and stands up in the saddle..no idea what he said at the time..but suddenly running diagonally makes no sense whatever..a criminal ride..imo.
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Looks behind and does a Vinnie Jones on Finian's Oscar. Townend must really hate Tizzard.
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Absolute fan asswholes ^^
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Fkn
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Why does he stop riding?
Why does he not go for the fence? Why does he drive the horse to the right? The stewards give him 21 days for dangerous riding. What about achieving the best possible place? He was leading the race and stopped riding, then went off course. |
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Spot on kincsem, it was dangerous riding but why no ban or mention of not riding to achieve the best possible placing?
You've got to think he thought he had already finished the race prior to the last fence but then panicked when he caught a glimpse of Robbie Power riding vigorously on his inside. |
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The absolute worst thing you can do in circumstances such as this is say nothing - as the report does - because the speculation will almost always be much worse than the actual events, as we can all see on this forum. Foolish at best and someone here needs to 'man up' and explain what actually happened. The North Koreans would have given more information than this lot have released so far!
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so you're saying he needs to he honest bob?
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The Guardian:
The stewards published a skimpy verdict which shed no light on the reason for Townend’s action. However, it is understood the jockey told stewards he thought he had heard a shout directing him to bypass the fence. He accepted that none of the formal bypass procedures were in place. https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2018/apr/24/paul-townend-banned-dangerous-riding-dramatic-punchestown-horse-racing-finish-willie-mullins |
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Was he tested for drugs and/or alcohol;if not why not.
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That's right, Elise. I think it was my time in the Scouts that instilled that attribute. How I miss my Honest Bob bob-a-job weeks. I did think about mentioning the time that I used to do my impression of a cork floating in the sea when people used to see me in the waves and shout, "Oh look, there's Honest Bob bobbing!" but I decided that wasn't funny..............either :)
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Someone needs to look at the 'betting patterns' as well, to see if there is anything suspicious !
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Has no one heard Townend's comment?
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I don't believe there is anything suspicious but the lack of transparency and clarity from the stewards is deafening. If they are attempting to shield Townend from publicity they have done completely the opposite and conspiracy theories abound because they didn't have the presence to be open and truthful with what happened in the enquiry.
They need to man up today & answer all of the questions from the media as to why and how this contoversy happened...only then will this matter rest otherwise the reputation and integrity of Irish racing will be mud |
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i don't think they are helping by not explaining fully, it doesn't do much for the sport and they have previous for not explaining or investigating properly
that said i don't think this is dishonest, whatever went on in his head he's just messed it up, he's not corrupt it's a fck up, i would have liked to have seen him apologise publically to mullins for screwing his title prospects and to the tizzards for messing up their horse, not read that he has so far and apologies if he's now done that |
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What is extremely puzzling (among many other things here) is how many times he has ridden the same jumps course previously.
Has that last fence ever been ommitted in all that time I wonder? |
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I suppose it's possible?
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Then, as said, the usual features would be in place I presume (large signs middle of fence as per protocol)
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I agree the stewards official report is ridiculously brief and should be a full report into the jockey's own version.
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unless he explains i doubt we'll know, surprised he hasn't
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Yep elise, though surely someone will have to interview him on camera at some point, and ask some questions..?
He's supposed to be there today again isnt' he? |
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He's given a statement saying he thought he heard a shout that the fence was to be bypassed.....
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