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086F Growise Champion Novice S'chase
K.M. Donoghue, rider of Dounikos (FR) trained by Gordon Elliott, reported to the Clerk of Scales that his mount made a noise and pulled up.

The Stewards enquired into an incident approaching the last fence involving Al Boum Photo (FR), ridden by P. Townend and Finian's Oscar, ridden by R.M. Power. Evidence was heard from the riders concerned. Having viewed the recording of the race and considered the evidence, the Stewards were of the opinion that P. Townend was in breach of Rule 214 in that he had ridden dangerously and having considered his record in this regard, the Stewards suspended him for 21 racedays and ordered that he forfeit his riding fee.


That fully clears it up then.

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By:
mrcombustible
When: 24 Apr 18 20:03
Very informative
By:
irishone
When: 24 Apr 18 20:05
This is dodgy
P t is as dodgy as feck always has been
This is dodgy
By:
Elsie Ephsey
When: 24 Apr 18 20:40
Scandalous that nobody sees fit to report what the "evidence" was.

The only logical explanation that I can see is the lone wing in the middle of the hurdles track. If Townend saw that out of the corner of his eye, he might have thought that was the route to the winning post. No excuse, because he's ridden the course on countless occasions, but a possible explanation. Human error no doubt (hopefully!), but to offer no explanation is poor in the extreme.
By:
equine flew
When: 24 Apr 18 20:51
He has ridden 344 times around Punchestown maybe 50% of them chases?
By:
pa lapsy
When: 24 Apr 18 20:51
I initially thought similar re that hurdle wing and part of the last fence sticking outside the left part of last fence rail(on head on) but not sure that really explains the look around.

Very poor no further explanation has come to light so long after the race, seems the stewards have placed the blame squarely on PT though.
By:
equine flew
When: 24 Apr 18 20:52
In fact he has ridden at Punchestown more than any other course.   He must know the course like the back of his hand.   What could possibly make him think he had to swerve the fence?
By:
carrot1960
When: 24 Apr 18 20:58
If you watch the replay he appears to take a pull on his mount as he's going so well  then looks over his right shoulder and sees the other jockeys appear to be heading to by pass the last and  makes a split second decision to go that way as well.
By:
betting_masta
When: 24 Apr 18 21:42
why on god's green earth would he throw the race away because he didn't want the english horse to win, but instead let his direct rival win the race.
By:
betting_masta
When: 24 Apr 18 21:43

Apr 24, 2018 -- 8:58PM, carrot1960 wrote:


If you watch the replay he appears to take a pull on his mount as he's going so well

By:
betting_masta
When: 24 Apr 18 21:45
i typed a lot there and i'm not writing it all out again but basically

he looks right, the horse thinks he wants to go right, he changes his body entirely, then townend rides it cause he has to but the horse already has too much momentum and crashes into the other horse and the rails

any talk of a fix or it being bént or **** is just stupid
By:
Lee Ho Fooks
When: 24 Apr 18 21:51
Look at when he first stood up, where would he have got a call from?
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 24 Apr 18 22:01
Would he even hear any 'call', given the levels of noise from the crowd going down to the last?

I've had a good look back at it and imo he sees something ahead, thenchecks to his right that it's safe to take his mount off the track (it wasn't as it turned out), but what does he see?

And if that was the case, why haven't they just come out and said so?

I'm filing this in the too difficult tray Crazy
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 24 Apr 18 22:07
Apparently he did get a call to bypass the first, yep, above all that shouting and cheering from the crowd, and he took action despite no formal procedures being in place.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2018/apr/24/paul-townend-banned
-dangerous-riding-dramatic-punchestown-horse-racing
-finish-willie-mullins
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 24 Apr 18 22:07
first = fence Crazy
By:
brassneck
When: 24 Apr 18 22:18
the big question is why did he look behind him? what reason would he have to look round ,like it was a big race and he is about to jump so he says to himself,i will have a look round "Laugh
By:
Racingqueen
When: 24 Apr 18 22:38
Would he even hear any 'call', given the levels of noise from the crowd going down to the last?


What noise would that be? Its Ireland, the crowd would drunk & unconscience in the parade ring
By:
Racingqueen
When: 24 Apr 18 22:38
unconscious
By:
sofiakenny
When: 24 Apr 18 23:28
made a beeline for the tizzard horse when if he simply jumped the last would have probably won..he is on the right and stands up in the saddle..no idea what he said at the time..but suddenly running diagonally makes no sense whatever..a criminal ride..imo.
By:
Autocue
When: 24 Apr 18 23:36
Looks behind and does a Vinnie Jones on Finian's Oscar. Townend must really hate Tizzard.
By:
DECALEC
When: 25 Apr 18 02:13
Absolute fan asswholes ^^
By:
DECALEC
When: 25 Apr 18 02:14
Fkn
By:
kincsem
When: 25 Apr 18 05:40
Why does he stop riding?
Why does he not go for the fence?
Why does he drive the horse to the right?

The stewards give him 21 days for dangerous riding.
What about achieving the best possible place?  He was leading the race and stopped riding, then went off course.
By:
adamski
When: 25 Apr 18 07:38
Spot on kincsem, it was dangerous riding but why no ban or mention of not riding to achieve the best possible placing?

You've got to think he thought he had already finished the race prior to the last fence but then panicked when he caught a glimpse of Robbie Power riding vigorously on his inside.
By:
Honest Bob
When: 25 Apr 18 08:19
The absolute worst thing you can do in circumstances such as this is say nothing - as the report does - because the speculation will almost always be much worse than the actual events, as we can all see on this forum. Foolish at best and someone here needs to 'man up' and explain what actually happened. The North Koreans would have given more information than this lot have released so far!
By:
elise
When: 25 Apr 18 08:24
so you're saying he needs to he honest bob?
By:
Ramruma
When: 25 Apr 18 08:40
The Guardian:
The stewards published a skimpy verdict which shed no light on the reason for Townend’s action. However, it is understood the jockey told stewards he thought he had heard a shout directing him to bypass the fence. He accepted that none of the formal bypass procedures were in place.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2018/apr/24/paul-townend-banned-dangerous-riding-dramatic-punchestown-horse-racing-finish-willie-mullins
By:
posy
When: 25 Apr 18 08:53
Was he tested for drugs and/or alcohol;if not why not.
By:
Honest Bob
When: 25 Apr 18 09:25
That's right, Elise. I think it was my time in the Scouts that instilled that attribute. How I miss my Honest Bob bob-a-job weeks. I did think about mentioning the time that I used to do my impression of a cork floating in the sea when people used to see me in the waves and shout, "Oh look, there's Honest Bob bobbing!" but I decided that wasn't funny..............either :)
By:
mondeoboxerblue
When: 25 Apr 18 09:30
Someone needs to look at the 'betting patterns' as well, to see if there is anything suspicious !
By:
mini me
When: 25 Apr 18 09:51
Has no one heard Townend's comment?
By:
geordie1956
When: 25 Apr 18 09:51
I don't believe there is anything suspicious but the lack of transparency and clarity from the stewards is deafening. If they are attempting to shield Townend from publicity they have done completely the opposite and conspiracy theories abound because they didn't have the presence to be open and truthful with what happened in the enquiry.

They need to man up today & answer all of the questions from the media as to why and how this contoversy happened...only then will this matter rest otherwise the reputation and integrity of Irish racing will be mud
By:
elise
When: 25 Apr 18 10:18
i don't think they are helping by not explaining fully, it doesn't do much for the sport and they have previous for not explaining or investigating properly

that said i don't think this is dishonest, whatever went on in his head he's just messed it up, he's not corrupt it's a fck up,

i would have liked to have seen him apologise publically to mullins for screwing his title prospects and to the tizzards for messing up their horse, not read that he has so far and apologies if he's now done that
By:
stu
When: 25 Apr 18 10:33
What is extremely puzzling (among many other things here) is how many times he has ridden the same jumps course previously.

Has that last fence ever been ommitted in all that time I wonder?
By:
stu
When: 25 Apr 18 10:33
I suppose it's possible?
By:
stu
When: 25 Apr 18 10:34
Then, as said, the usual features would be in place I presume (large signs middle of fence as per protocol)
By:
stu
When: 25 Apr 18 10:38
I agree the stewards official report is ridiculously brief and should be a full report into the jockey's own version.
By:
elise
When: 25 Apr 18 10:38
unless he explains i doubt we'll know, surprised he hasn't
By:
stu
When: 25 Apr 18 10:41
Yep elise, though surely someone will have to interview him on camera at some point, and ask some questions..?

He's supposed to be there today again isnt' he?
By:
gerard
When: 25 Apr 18 10:43
He's given a statement saying he thought he heard a shout that the fence was to be bypassed.....
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