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Took a girl to the races years ago. We stood by the rails.
I take it that was when it was leather whips Dr C? |
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Yes it would be stewarty.
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I agree with poppydog.
I have no strong feelings about the whip. I think the whip rules are about right. It's the unwillingness to enforce them I condemn. |
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I thought so Dr C. A well respected forumite on here who doesn't post anymore (jonjo) told a similar story about Piggott riding at Redcar. He was there with his father and could actually hear the smacks that Piggott gave his beast 100 yards out.
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1 extra strike Jockey is banned from riding the horse in its next race + 25% of his riding fee and any prize money he/she receives.
2 extra strikes Jockey is banned from riding the horse in its next 2 races + 50% fine as above 3 extra strikes Jockey is banned from riding its next 3 races etc etc |
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^^^ Impossible.
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Some people forget that a horse often gets a few smacks in the back straight to get it going/interested again. And then gets the number required if in with a chance jumping two out.
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Piggott's whip was longer than usual and he really laid into them.
Whether the horse went any quicker as a result is another matter. Piggott knew that by being so harsh that when he won he would get the credit. Hence ''only Piggott would have won on that''' It was a myth, how could he get anymore out of a horse than the next jockey if the horse was flat out? |
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A 6 grand fine as a deterrent to winning the Gold Cup within the whip rules is as pointless as fining Premier League clubs 50 grand for their players surrounding the ref ......a pathetic response as they know full well that anything more will be played out in court and would bankrupt the BHA.
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Have you watched The Minstrel winning the Derby?
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* That was to Dr C.
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Yes many times stewarty, Piggott was the passenger.
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stewarty b 17 Mar 18 18:39 Joined: 02 Aug 02 | Topic/replies: 15,623 | Blogger: stewarty b's blog
I have two questions if anybody can answer please. 1) Was the horse examined by a veterinary surgeon after the race? And if not, why not? 2) Is this the biggest fine ever for the overuse of the whip by a jockey in the UK? Some shrewdies on here. I will answer my own questions. 1) No. 2) Yes. |
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In a tight finish, the jock that wins gets the credit for the best ride.
The trouble is that next time the two jocks meet in a close one, the other jock is just as likely to win. |
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The rules are ridiculous, at least 5 whip offences on winning jockeys. They should never have brought a certain amount of strikes in to the rules.
What other sport would you be able to break the rule that probably gives you an advantage yet still win? If the on course stewards did their job, followed up by a central stewarding panel then surely they can see if a horse has been abused. |
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It wouldn't happen though would it BB?
At first yes, but it would soon become very rare indeed. |
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Crippers is a serial poster and clearly has his mind made up on this subject.
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So Dr Crippen. Rab Havlin is just as good a jockey as Lester was?
Sounds like you think ALL jockeys are of equal ability? |
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In french trotting racing if they break out of a trot they are disqualified, harsh as fk.
That is the only way of doing it so it isnt going to happen. |
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Blackrock, if they ever met in a race and Rob Havlin beat LP in a close finish, what would you say then?
The top jockeys get beat all the time in close finishes. Sounds like when they win it's because you think they're good, and when they get beat it's the horse at fault. |
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Correct eric, break the rules and they get thrown out.
So they don't break the rules. |
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trotting, the clue is in the name
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Surely the abolition of jockeys and the introduction of Traps is the only answer going forward.
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Could be the answer Ekbalco, you never see overuse of the whip at Portman Park either
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I am already on Trap 12 LARGE for next year's Gold Cup.
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